whats the problem here ?
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jiummyboyjones
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will do im learning as you teach ill keep you posted
thanks man. Peace
Kingrow1
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Go on hydro shop web sites and see whats available, speak to other growers and read other threads. I never teach just suggest, its a discussion, every one else had better points than me. Hope your plants do ok, they are looking ok at the mo so try and get all the variables down. Even getting to this point is an achievement for me with my plants somedays. You seem to have watering down now just dont overfert them and it will be sweet. Cal/mag dosent affect everyone but can be a right sod if you get it. Epsom salts is mag and calcium is easily available through lime in the soil and supplements or foliars. Let others comment dude. peace
jiummyboyjones
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ok now ready to go into 12/12 water is at a 1 litre to each 11 litre pot every 2nd or 3rd day depending on finger test, nutes are biobizz grow at 1ml per litre only doing that every 2nd or 3rd watering and only started a week or so because am using biobizz allgrow of my 6 young ladies 2 are of cheese and 4 are * kush the cheese are fine nice and green the kush are however showing some signs of lightening on the body of some of the bigger leaves can anyone please say what this is ? is it nute ? the lights are 24 inches away 600 watt hps and tt 125 extractor 24/7 with standing power fan for strengthening one a day for an hour flowing over them
water also has 2 tablespoons vinegar per 10 litres to ph it.
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Kingrow1
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Well at least you have got this far, looking good dude, understandably you should be worried about the small problems your having, i would, these things have a habit off getting worse quick.
One strain shows problems and the other dosen't, seem like if both strains have had the same treatment then one is just asking for a little more or less than the other strain of somthing.
The pics dont make it clear, not the best lighting to see the detail on some of the worse leaves. What can i say, could be too much or too little ferts, could be a slight mag deficiency, i just couldnt call that at the moment. Post better pics of the leaves so we can see in more detail. Sometimes overferting can look like underferting as well i just dont know here or would hazard a guess.
My biobizz goes a long way and builds up strength quick, their chart would kill my plants to a crisp if i followed it to the letter, they call for one feed a week and personally i like to give one feed and then wait a week or so to give it time to work before even considering another feed. The amount of times i have burnt plants with Biobizz is unbelievable now, always happens now and again, that biobizz is good stuff, leaves me having to flush the pots and then it is just luck if i can revive them without other and futher problems.
Well done up till now though. Peace
One strain shows problems and the other dosen't, seem like if both strains have had the same treatment then one is just asking for a little more or less than the other strain of somthing.
The pics dont make it clear, not the best lighting to see the detail on some of the worse leaves. What can i say, could be too much or too little ferts, could be a slight mag deficiency, i just couldnt call that at the moment. Post better pics of the leaves so we can see in more detail. Sometimes overferting can look like underferting as well i just dont know here or would hazard a guess.
My biobizz goes a long way and builds up strength quick, their chart would kill my plants to a crisp if i followed it to the letter, they call for one feed a week and personally i like to give one feed and then wait a week or so to give it time to work before even considering another feed. The amount of times i have burnt plants with Biobizz is unbelievable now, always happens now and again, that biobizz is good stuff, leaves me having to flush the pots and then it is just luck if i can revive them without other and futher problems.
Well done up till now though. Peace
jiummyboyjones
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im not sure but i think its to much nutes for these 4 the other 2 are fine and before the nutes so were the other 4 ive gave them plain water since it a litre per pot and will do so for at least a week then lower the nutes for the other 4 but heres some pics if its any help man. peace
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Kingrow1
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Mere speculation but yer to me it looks more toxicity than deficiency, is the other strain quite overly dark green? This may mean it has handled the nutes better but is at its max. It certainly looks confusing so i reckon just go with what you thinks best, if problems get worse reasses the situation, plants may take a little while to recover if they have been overferted. Peace
jiummyboyjones
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thankyou man very much appreciated will do. peace
jiummyboyjones
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things are ok with the ladies now and im curious about trimming leaves because now they are starting to touch each other ? do i leave them alone or take leaves off ? we're into week 1 of flowering so i dont want to damage them by letting them bunch into each other or damage them by cutting them ? peace
Kingrow1
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Post pics of the plants to see that they are doing better now if you can.
I would never cut a leaf of a plant, if the plant dont want it then will fall off by itself, if its a light penetration issue then grow shorter next time but other than that the plants are gona bunch together naturally, when have you ever seen a flowering room all spaced out, normally they are edge to edge plants, leaves overlap everywhere. I like to make a canopy of my plants and only pay attention to the top buds trimming most smaller lower shoots off during preflower and veg then i just let it do what it wants to do, wouldnt interfere much in flowering, leave the pruning to the veg period. Peace
jiummyboyjones
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cheers theyll be happy to hear that chum
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jiummyboyjones
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things are going well from what i see the ladies are now into 2Nd week flowering and stretching out as you can see still nice and green we're on 1/2 nutes next time 3/4 and that's every third watering leading to 1ml per litre of grow bloom and top max feeding at approx once every 4 to fifth day at 1 litre per 2 gallon pot which will get more frequent as they need it
just thought id keep you posted i hope your going well also man. Peace
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Kingrow1
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Holy cow my man there looking much much much better, im impressed they are looking great.
Some look sativa with very thin leaves.
So 1ml grow 1ml bloom and 1ml topmax??
I never wanted to try the topmax really and went for the fish mix instead. Basically your starting to push the phosphorous and potassium levels up now its flowering with that nute mix. I love the biobizz but i do find it is easy to burn plants with and the grow is quite high in nitrogen, they are wicked ferts though and doubt ill get rid of them soon although i want to run another ferts companies nute next to mine to see the difference, maybe ionics or somthing like that.
Thanks fore asking too, my grow is looking ok, had over ferts recently and sorted that out only to get under feeding and now just building them back up to that sweet spot. Gona be growing some super skunk from sensi seeds next, just germinated my first one tonight and looks real good. My white widow seeds i breed my self ran into breeding depression, dont breed seeds basically less you know what your doing and i learnt my lesson now!lol! so i got new F1 seeds from sensi and just waiting to see the results over my old seeds.
Anyway looks like you shouldnt mess up much from here dude and wont be long before all that hard work translates into some grade a smoke. If i had to be critical about your plants id say they look a little stretched and internodal space is a bit long, dont matter though and only a small thing but next grow im sure you can work this down a bit but other than that they look kinda perfect. I been taking all my lower shoots off my plants and just leaving the top shoots to concentrate more on my main buds, i cant be bothered with the lower popcorn these days as all i want is those big fat top buds.
Well done again dude, great grow and great plants, rep for sticking with it and the patience it takes, based on them pics i would say your getting it right and just drooled down my computer screen at how sexy they look. Peace and really happy for you and your plants.
Some look sativa with very thin leaves.
So 1ml grow 1ml bloom and 1ml topmax??
I never wanted to try the topmax really and went for the fish mix instead. Basically your starting to push the phosphorous and potassium levels up now its flowering with that nute mix. I love the biobizz but i do find it is easy to burn plants with and the grow is quite high in nitrogen, they are wicked ferts though and doubt ill get rid of them soon although i want to run another ferts companies nute next to mine to see the difference, maybe ionics or somthing like that.
Thanks fore asking too, my grow is looking ok, had over ferts recently and sorted that out only to get under feeding and now just building them back up to that sweet spot. Gona be growing some super skunk from sensi seeds next, just germinated my first one tonight and looks real good. My white widow seeds i breed my self ran into breeding depression, dont breed seeds basically less you know what your doing and i learnt my lesson now!lol! so i got new F1 seeds from sensi and just waiting to see the results over my old seeds.
Anyway looks like you shouldnt mess up much from here dude and wont be long before all that hard work translates into some grade a smoke. If i had to be critical about your plants id say they look a little stretched and internodal space is a bit long, dont matter though and only a small thing but next grow im sure you can work this down a bit but other than that they look kinda perfect. I been taking all my lower shoots off my plants and just leaving the top shoots to concentrate more on my main buds, i cant be bothered with the lower popcorn these days as all i want is those big fat top buds.
Well done again dude, great grow and great plants, rep for sticking with it and the patience it takes, based on them pics i would say your getting it right and just drooled down my computer screen at how sexy they look. Peace and really happy for you and your plants.
jiummyboyjones
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thankyou man much appreciated
the stretch i see myself and will get to work on that as you say in future tho the other strain is sweet and doesnt lok stretched which i find odd as they are more indica and shorter i thot theyd have stretched more lol im glad yours is going well and hope for good budding for you Peace
Kingrow1
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Yer i harvest once every week or two and start a plant every time i harvest, it allows me to maximise light in the veg and flowering room, i yeild more this way in a continuous grow i.e. the smaller plants take up less space and light giving the bigger plants more. Looking after 13/14 plants at different stages is a challenge though and wouldnt recomend it.
I suppose some strains stretch more than others like between indica and sats. If there all the same strain either their genetics althought the same are showing some traits over others or the thin leaved plants may be or may be from overferting or heat problems, either way if it aint broke dont change it but maybe swapping their positions in the grow room if heat is higher in some spots or go easy on the ferts for those plants.
Could be anything for all we know but best advice would be just keep an eye on it for now. Again really nice grow and keep us all posted dude. Peace
I suppose some strains stretch more than others like between indica and sats. If there all the same strain either their genetics althought the same are showing some traits over others or the thin leaved plants may be or may be from overferting or heat problems, either way if it aint broke dont change it but maybe swapping their positions in the grow room if heat is higher in some spots or go easy on the ferts for those plants.
Could be anything for all we know but best advice would be just keep an eye on it for now. Again really nice grow and keep us all posted dude. Peace
jiummyboyjones
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this is 3rd week of flower and as you can see we have yellowing leaves which ive read is normal but im posting these to make sure nothing bad is happening my ladies, they are on 1/2 ml grow and 3/4 ml bloom per litre and watered roughly every 3 to 4 days now and nutes every 3rd watering im upping the grow to 1ml per litre next time and then upward as we go at half a ml every feed time and maintaining grow at a 3/4 ml per litre after that i had bloom but articles say its rubbish and will be giving them pk1314 in fifth week at 1ml per litre as a 1 off ? how does this look to you man cause ive come this far i dont wanna screw it up now
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Kingrow1
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Yer dude you just underfeeding by the looks of it, i wouldnt be upping the grow too much but go with what you feel best and i dont know why the bloom is apparently so rubbish but be carefull with PK 13/14 it can be strong. Good luck, they look ok as long as its just underfeeding. Peace
jiummyboyjones
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cheers man ill foliar feed as well before lights out in the morning and up the bloom a little next time and i meant top max is rubbish lol much appreciated
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Kingrow1
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Ahh biobizz, i remember now, found a guy who totally bashed Biobizz, i have always loved it but understand what he was saying, quite imbalanced. I never used topmax and got the fish mix instead, i alternate that with my grow and seems to work a lot better now. I dont subscribe to pk boosts unfortunatly, the biobizz bloom seems boost enough on its own.
Personally i liked the look of Sensi's iguana juice but i need more info before i swap of the biobizz but should others recomend better and can give good reason and its cheap then i might just swap my flowering bloom for another make, i still love the biobizz grow and fish-mix though. The Foliar seems to get very good results but i dont foliar feed unfortunatly othrewise id give you more feedback on that.
Maybe the sensible grower would change to a more controllable ferts, seen good results with Ionics and similar, who knows what the future holds, i really loved the Biobizz but people are telling me to change! Peace
Personally i liked the look of Sensi's iguana juice but i need more info before i swap of the biobizz but should others recomend better and can give good reason and its cheap then i might just swap my flowering bloom for another make, i still love the biobizz grow and fish-mix though. The Foliar seems to get very good results but i dont foliar feed unfortunatly othrewise id give you more feedback on that.
Maybe the sensible grower would change to a more controllable ferts, seen good results with Ionics and similar, who knows what the future holds, i really loved the Biobizz but people are telling me to change! Peace