What's would your dream grow garage look like?

justugh

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You have one Ac for two rooms. Usually about 50% smaller than you would if all the lights were in one room. It only has to cool half the lights at one time, therefore it doesn't need to be as big.
Saving of over $1000.

Circulation fans aren't going to change much. Not a valid point.

Two sets of timers for the lights, yes. One master controller for each room. Extra $500 bucks that you saved in AC.

Yes you'll need two co2 gens or tanks. Extra $300.

Humidity control, I don't like one dehumidifier for large rooms anyway, no failsafe. So no extra cost to use 1 in each small room vs 2 in big room.

You can run 50% more lights using flip flop as you can with one room. Let's say you have 100 amp service, and want to run 8000 watts.

You can put all 8 in one room 40 amp.
Ac to cool it 30 amp.
Dehumidifier 5 amp.
Your at 75 amps (maxed out)

Two rooms with 6000 in each. 30 amp
AC to cool it an other room 30 amp. Dehumidifier for both rooms. 10 amp.
Total amount running at one time- 70 amps.

Meaning people with limited power, flip flops is actually a lot better because of the split power usage.

The same 100amp service that can only run 8000w in one flower room, could do 12000w in two flip flop rooms.


You won't catch me dead using a tent. Rooms need to be insulated and have dedicated power to them.
u did not account for the refraction off the tent walls ......that will increase the over all amount and lower the total fluffy amount

and that is the room running on 220/240 for 30 amps
on 110 u are looking at about 11.2 amp start up and then 8 amp running

so have u account for the power box need main breaker of the 220/240 and then a sub panel for the 110

and again i would change out the HIDS for LED for lower power cost and heat build up with increased depth penetration
 

Carolina Dream'n

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u did not account for the refraction off the tent walls ......that will increase the over all amount and lower the total fluffy amount

and that is the room running on 220/240 for 30 amps
on 110 u are looking at about 11.2 amp start up and then 8 amp running

so have u account for the power box need main breaker of the 220/240 and then a sub panel for the 110

and again i would change out the HIDS for LED for lower power cost and heat build up with increased depth penetration
So will poly on the walls of a real grow room.

Don't run lights on 110v. 220v is mandatory.

All power boxes can run 220v. I don't understand your argument. So I have to install a sub panel? Less than 100 bucks.

You are out your mind if you think for one second that an LED will penetrate into a canopy as far as a 1000w DE.
 

projectinfo

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Pic from hightimes magazine

Op here.

So this is the setup I'm looking at now
Drain to waste. Probably in coco. except I think I'll need cool tubes to control the heat but winter is coming I'm in Canada.

I have the 25000 btu window ac I told you guys about and I'm thinking all medium plants like the pic

I can do upto 25 plants and my temporary shed dimensions are 22x9 so it's rectangle until I get my big one going in the spring
I can go higher than 8 feet if I need to. Any height suggestions and any heat suggestions. Maybe make it two rooms?

How many lights could I throw in there?

And yes I will be building custom insulated partitions if need be. And painting to seal the room proper

The window shaker ac unit. It would be fine to use with co2 right? As far as I can find they just recirculate the air in the room and exhaust the hot coils outside right?

Also I am putting dedicated 220 for my two 4k light controllers each and the ac is 220 and a few 110lines

Also the power goes out once in a blue moon here too so I'm getting a generator panel and 5k generator to run heat and a light or two in emergency in the room

Also I have a 200 amp panel and I'm barely using any of it. mini home
 
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Carolina Dream'n

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Pic from hightimes magazine

Op here.

So this is the setup I'm looking at now
Drain to waste. Probably in coco. except I think I'll need cool tubes to control the heat but winter is coming I'm in Canada.

I have the 25000 btu window ac I told you guys about and I'm thinking all medium plants like the pic

I can do upto 25 plants and my temporary shed dimensions are 22x9 so it's rectangle until I get my big one going in the spring
I can go higher than 8 feet if I need to. Any height suggestions and any heat suggestions. Maybe make it two rooms?

How many lights could I throw in there?

And yes I will be building custom insulated partitions if need be. And painting to seal the room proper

The window shaker ac unit. It would be fine to use with co2 right? As far as I can find they just recirculate the air in the room and exhaust the hot coils outside right?

Also I am putting dedicated 220 for my two 4k light controllers each and the ac is 220 and a few 110lines

Also the power goes out once in a blue moon here too so I'm getting a generator panel and 5k generator to run heat and a light or two in emergency in the room

Also I have a 200 amp panel and I'm barely using any of it. mini home
Simple, easy effective.

Split the shed into two 9ft long 6 ft wide flower rooms. 6 315s in each room. Crop wall to wall. Quest 105 dehumidifier in each. Blueprint master controller with fuzzy logic. Co2 tank. 18k btu minisplit. Run the rooms flip flop.

Veg room 4 ft long 6 ft wide. 9k mini split. 1-2 315s.

One outdoor condenser. 36,000 btu with three heads (18k,18k,9k)

DTW using octabubblers and floraflex caps with rockwool in 3x6 flood trays. Ionic Bloom from start to finish. One bottle.

Dry in one flower room while vegging in the other to let plants acclimate to light increase from original veg room.

9 week strain will be a 10 week turn around after drying for a week.
 

projectinfo

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Simple, easy effective.

Split the shed into two 9ft long 6 ft wide flower rooms. 6 315s in each room. Crop wall to wall. Quest 105 dehumidifier in each. Blueprint master controller with fuzzy logic. Co2 tank. 18k btu minisplit. Run the rooms flip flop.

Veg room 4 ft long 6 ft wide. 9k mini split. 1-2 315s.

One outdoor condenser. 36,000 btu with three heads (18k,18k,9k)

DTW using octabubblers and floraflex caps with rockwool in 3x6 flood trays. Ionic Bloom from start to finish. One bottle.

Dry in one flower room while vegging in the other to let plants acclimate to light increase from original veg room.

9 week strain will be a 10 week turn around after drying for a week.
Thanks for the info great idea :) I agree totally but man the only thing not in the budget right now is the mini split ac units. I've got a 25000 btu window unit on 240v and a 5000 btu on 120v if needed.

Is it still doable or is the mini split an absolute must right away
 

projectinfo

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Yeah that's off hightimes . Just an example. I'm open to ideas . I was originally thinking 1000x3 hps in each room in cool tubes
 

rkymtnman

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Yeah that's off hightimes . Just an example. I'm open to ideas . I was originally thinking 1000x3 hps in each room in cool tubes
i would think that with cool tubes you'd be fine with a 25k AC.

i used to use a 600hps in a cool tube and i could put my hand about a half inch from the tube.
 

projectinfo

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i would think that with cool tubes you'd be fine with a 25k AC.

i used to use a 600hps in a cool tube and i could put my hand about a half inch from the tube.
Nice I figure I could cool 6 to 8 cool tubed 1k hps lights between the two rooms but how would you vent and cool them. Dampers on temp sensors . How do you cool two separate rooms with one window unit
 

rkymtnman

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Nice I figure I could cool 6 to 8 cool tubed 1k hps lights between the two rooms but how would you vent and cool them. Dampers on temp sensors . How do you cool two separate rooms with one window unit
are you gonna run CO2 and seal up the rooms? if so (and I would for sure), you suck in non grow room air and vent outside thru a carbon scrubber if odors are a problem.

one AC for 2 rooms could be a problem. i'd start looking on craigslist. summer over, people getting rid of ACs. find a used one.

you might even get by with the smaller AC with 3 1ks in cool tubes in 1 room
 

projectinfo

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Yes I'm going to seal it and I'm not worried about oders. And yes Im getting a tank of co2, regulator and controller
 

projectinfo

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are you gonna run CO2 and seal up the rooms? if so (and I would for sure), you suck in non grow room air and vent outside thru a carbon scrubber if odors are a problem.

one AC for 2 rooms could be a problem. i'd start looking on craigslist. summer over, people getting rid of ACs. find a used one.

you might even get by with the smaller AC with 3 1ks in cool tubes in 1 room
And good point. I could probably get away with a 10 to 15k btu ac if their in cool tubes
 

Carolina Dream'n

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Keep away from glass between bulb and plants.
Lowers yields. Adds more to your power bill from running fans to cool lights that don't really need cooled. Adds to cleaning time in between harvest.

Try to find a used window banger on Craigslist for other room if budget issue. You'll want an ac for each room.
 

MarWan

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just smoked some SSDD and came up with a stupid idea :bigjoint:
2 flower rooms, one room with lights & AC on for 24 Hrs, the other room will be dark 24Hrs.
put all plants on wheels, 1/2 the plants in flower room no1, while the other 1/2 sleeping in Flower Room2, and every 12 hours switch plants by wheeling them in & out the flower rooms.
I love my SSDD :weed:
 

projectinfo

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Keep away from glass between bulb and plants.
Lowers yields. Adds more to your power bill from running fans to cool lights that don't really need cooled. Adds to cleaning time in between harvest.

Try to find a used window banger on Craigslist for other room if budget issue. You'll want an ac for each room.
Perfect IL start looking. Next problem is that sometimes in winter it hits - 20 and
- 30 celcius in the winter so the ac won't work . Then if I bring in outside air it's too humid I heard a heat recovery unit may help that (hrv)
 
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