Whats wrong with my plants?

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

Two of my plants are having this problem. They are in 3 gallon pots with FFOF soil and I added more perlite. No nutes or anything added just straight watering. I water every 3 days. Thanks!

Edit: First two pictures are same plant the third picture is another plant.

hookahchill · Jun 24, 2011

your first leaves almost always die off. the first set of leaves seem to be ok. may looks a little heat sick. what are the temps.
also make sure ph is good.

hookahchill · Jun 24, 2011

also it would do good to sprey them. with water, or a mild dose of nutes

Dizzle Frost · Jun 24, 2011

that soil might be a lil hot for those seedlings

jondamon · Jun 24, 2011

Now this is just my opinion but i think you have a leafminer on your hands.

Something is inside your leaves eating them.

J

jondamon · Jun 24, 2011

Look familiar?????

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

hookahchill said:
your first leaves almost always die off. the first set of leaves seem to be ok. may looks a little heat sick. what are the temps.
also make sure ph is good.

Im growing outdoors and temps have been anywhere from 80-95 degress this last week.

Dizzle Frost said:
that soil might be a lil hot for those seedlings

What do you mean? So what should I do?

obijohn · Jun 24, 2011

Get rid of the leaf miners, that's all that's wrong

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

jondamon said:
Now this is just my opinion but i think you have a leafminer on your hands.

Something is inside your leaves eating them.

J

Hmmm how certain are you this might be the problem? And if it is the problem how can it be fixed?

obijohn said:
Get rid of the leaf miners, that's all that's wrong

How do I get rid of them?

jondamon · Jun 24, 2011

Stride said:
Hmmm how certain are you this might be the problem? And if it is the problem how can it be fixed?

Check the Pic i posted and diagnose your plants yourself.

The Spiraling marks you have on your leaves is a tell tale sign of them.

IMO any other diagnosis of your plants is pointless until you sort out the leafminer issue.

You need something systemic as the leaf miners burrow into your leaves and eat them from the inside out.

NEEM OIL could help but i think that SPINOSAD is also a good choice against these.

J

hgkdehs · Jun 24, 2011

I've used ffof for years and have never seen that happen. I grow indoors. My guess is that it is being caused by something outside, like bugs.

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

Could I just simply remove the affected leaves? Or would this stress my plants too much?

jondamon · Jun 24, 2011

Stride said:
Could I just simply remove the affected leaves? Or would this stress my plants too much?

At the age your plants are i would not be removing any leaves.

YOU NEED TO TREAT IT NOT HIDE IT!

J

Korner420Garden · Jun 24, 2011

leaf miners... neem oil works well with most pests

hgkdehs · Jun 24, 2011

jondamon said:
Now this is just my opinion but i think you have a leafminer on your hands.

Something is inside your leaves eating them.

J

Sounds very likely that this is your problem

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

So neem oil seems to be my best bet? Even over removing the leaves? How much can I expect this to cost me? And can I get it at home depot or something? Once I do get I just mix it in the water and water my plants with the mixture?

Wetdog · Jun 24, 2011

jondamon said:
Check the Pic i posted and diagnose your plants yourself.

The Spiraling marks you have on your leaves is a tell tale sign of them.

IMO any other diagnosis of your plants is pointless until you sort out the leafminer issue.

You need something systemic as the leaf miners burrow into your leaves and eat them from the inside out.

NEEM OIL could help but i think that SPINOSAD is also a good choice against these.

J

Neem isn't going to do much of anything. Leafminers are INSIDE the leaf where the neem oil will not contact them.

You need a systemic like the SPINOSAD that jondamon suggested. +rep for you BTW.

Wet

Korner420Garden · Jun 24, 2011

directions are on the bottle

MrGhettoGrower · Jun 24, 2011

FFOF is too hot for seedlings you should of started with Light Warrior :lol:

And then still wait till after the second week before putting'em in ffof :clap:

Stride · Jun 24, 2011

Another question. Ive been reading up on it and it seems they wont do any real damage to my plant and that even if I nothing my plants will continue to grow healthy? Is that true?

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