What's wrong with the plant? what is needed.

Spinoza34

Spinoza34

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LeastExpectedGrower said:
Intentionally, or unintentionally? I'm not against removing a few fans as needed if things are too dense or covering important bud sites but otherwise I like to leave 'em be.
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yes I did it on purpose. I thought it would be fine. I do not know if it adversely affected the plant.
 
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Holeleeshet

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Spinoza34 said:
Thank you very much for the information. Do you think I should shed the leaves? and how should i do it.
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I would Leave the leaves untill you do a big defoliation They’ll crumble off on there. Especially if they’re auto flowers I went and defoliating at all just tuck. If you pull them off it’ll just add more stress. Get a bread tie and tie them all together, they’ll eventually fall of on there own. Look at the lower bunched leaves here and you’ll see them all tied under the canopy. https://growdiaries.com/diaries/124446-grow-journal-by-itsgnomegrown/week/673570. I always been my main cola in a 90° And tuck everything under so I don’t have to top it. Good luck they’ll be fine. If the yellowing starts to get a little worse it looks like it’s still yelling more just add some count back plus to your watering every other week to fix itself
 
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Holeleeshet

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Cal mag + lol sorry. On your next grow try buying a bag of black magic 555 while Purpose Dr. limits and use that especially in soil in your colas will be monsters.
 
Spinoza34

Spinoza34

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Thank you very much for your time my friend. I couldn't understand the link. I should tie my fan leaves instead of cutting them. I couldn't quite understand the picture.
 
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Holeleeshet

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Tie them underneath together instead of cutting. It gives more photosynthesis and less stress. And more light to budsites
 
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Holeleeshet

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Also if you mix in the 5-5-5 all purpose black magic before you plant your seedlings, you can give them a top dress once at pre flower, that’ll be all you need and all you have to do is water only with declorinated tap at 6.1-6.9 and by harvest you’ll have pop can sized buds without all the liquid. Best dirt would be roots organic 707 or pro mix with micros.
 
Spinoza34

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Holeleeshet said:
Ayrıca, fidelerinizi dikmeden önce 5-5-5 çok amaçlı kara büyüyü karıştırırsanız, onlara çiçek öncesi bir kez üst elbise verebilirsiniz, ihtiyacınız olan tek şey bu olacak ve tek yapmanız gereken sadece suyla 6.1-6.9'da klorsuz musluk ve hasatla, tüm sıvı olmadan pop kutu büyüklüğünde tomurcuklara sahip olacaksınız. En iyi kir, kökler organik 707 veya mikrolarla profesyonel karışım olacaktır.
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I use all mix soil. 5 5 5 i should I mix my soil and how much?
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Mr.Head

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Holeleeshet said:
I would Leave the leaves untill you do a big defoliation They’ll crumble off on there. Especially if they’re auto flowers I went and defoliating at all just tuck. If you pull them off it’ll just add more stress. Get a bread tie and tie them all together, they’ll eventually fall of on there own. Look at the lower bunched leaves here and you’ll see them all tied under the canopy. https://growdiaries.com/diaries/124446-grow-journal-by-itsgnomegrown/week/673570. I always been my main cola in a 90° And tuck everything under so I don’t have to top it. Good luck they’ll be fine. If the yellowing starts to get a little worse it looks like it’s still yelling more just add some count back plus to your watering every other week to fix itself
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This is bad advice that can lead to all sorts of issues from PM to Bud Rot. Leaves transpire tying them up so they can't do that properly is dumb, just cut them off. How that's not equally or more stressful than just snipping them off...

That's all I'll say on this topic as I don't grow autoflowers. The list of "Can't do's" with autoflowers is ridiculous. You can't do 90% of the normal techniques people use on photoperiod plants to increase yield, or improve crop quality. Auto's are boof, they aren't good for beginners because you don't actually learn anything. Everything you should be learning you can't because "it will stress this lil bitch of a plant and you'll yield 3 grams instead of 3oz."

Garbage genetics should be kept out of the gene pool IMO.
 
Spinoza34

Spinoza34

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Mr.Head said:
Bu, PM'den Bud Rot'a kadar her türlü soruna yol açabilecek kötü bir tavsiyedir. Yaprakları düzgün bir şekilde yapamayacakları şekilde bağlamak aptalca, sadece kes onları. Bu, onları koparmaktan daha eşit veya daha stresli değil...

That's all I'll say on this topic as I don't grow autoflowers. The list of "Can't do's" with autoflowers is ridiculous. You can't do 90% of the normal techniques people use on photoperiod plants to increase yield, or improve crop quality. Auto's are boof, they aren't good for beginners because you don't actually learn anything. Everything you should be learning you can't because "it will stress this lil bitch of a plant and you'll yield 3 grams instead of 3oz."

Garbage genetics should be kept out of the gene pool IMO.
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I use organic fertilizer. biobiz. Is it ok to use canna pk 13 14 in the last weeks of harvest?
 
Mr.Head

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Spinoza34 said:
I use organic fertilizer. biobiz. Is it ok to use canna pk 13 14 in the last weeks of harvest?
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looks like others are using it with Biobiz and having acceptable results , i've never used Biobiz so can't speak from experience.

Should be OK though, it's a pretty common additive. I think Canna's recommended dose of 15ml per 10 liter is a little high. I use about 1ml per liter in rockwool. But I stack my cubes so EC in the cube is 3.0+/- and input is 1.7ec. pretty different application than soil. I've never used pk 13/14 in a soil grow.

I'd look up Canna's feed chart for soil and reduce by 25-50%. Start on the lower end for safety.

Safety first then teamwork.
 
Spinoza34

Spinoza34

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Mr.Head said:
Başkaları Biobiz ile kullanıyor ve kabul edilebilir sonuçlar alıyor gibi görünüyor, Biobiz'i hiç kullanmadım, bu yüzden deneyimden konuşamam.

Yine de iyi olmalı, oldukça yaygın bir katkı maddesi. Bence Canna'nın tavsiye ettiği 10 litreye 15ml dozu biraz yüksek. Taşyününde litre başına yaklaşık 1ml kullanıyorum. Ama küplerimi yığıyorum, böylece küpteki EC 3.0+/- ve giriş 1.7ec olur. topraktan oldukça farklı bir uygulama. Bir toprak büyümesinde hiç pk 13/14 kullanmadım.

Toprak için Canna'nın besleme tablosuna bakar ve %25-50 oranında azaltırdım. Güvenlik için alt uçtan başlayın.

Önce güvenlik, sonra ekip çalışması.
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Thankk youu
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Mr.Head

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No problem!

Your plants look very good.

I'd water the left plant a few times to 10% run off with properly pH'ed nutrient mix.
 
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Holeleeshet

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Mr.Head said:
This is bad advice that can lead to all sorts of issues from PM to Bud Rot. Leaves transpire tying them up so they can't do that properly is dumb, just cut them off. How that's not equally or more stressful than just snipping them off...

That's all I'll say on this topic as I don't grow autoflowers. The list of "Can't do's" with autoflowers is ridiculous. You can't do 90% of the normal techniques people use on photoperiod plants to increase yield, or improve crop quality. Auto's are boof, they aren't good for beginners because you don't actually learn anything. Everything you should be learning you can't because "it will stress this lil bitch of a plant and you'll yield 3 grams instead of 3oz."

Garbage genetics should be kept out of the gene pool IMO.
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If u use bread ties on the leafs stems and tug them together, they still do there job and take light. I’ve done it for years. How is it stressing the plant by putting them behind the buds instead of beside them? By falling of on there own I meant when they they’ll fall off when they yellow off toward chop, Instead of tucking them under all budsites just move them to the side. It’s the Same concept as tucking them but different method. It gives more light and you don’t have to worry about retucking the same fans under buds every other day. Just low stress as they reach. And personally I prefer photoperiods over autos any day , but genetics have stepped there games up and they do just as much with yield or the same trainings as a photo, even topping with some if it’s the right strain. The only difference is light schedule and not being able to clone plants. There capable of cloning , just finish when momma does.
 
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Holeleeshet

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Spinoza34 said:
I use organic fertilizer. biobiz. Is it ok to use canna pk 13 14 in the last weeks of harvest?
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The Last week really won’t matter cause they’ll be taking very little microbes anyways. You could and it wouldn’t hurt but I think it would be a waste of food. When you flush your gonna be getting rid of most the stuff in there anyways. You could give them the Canna now but make sure you have castings or some form of nitrogen. They still need a little at flower. Good luck
 
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