when do the buds plump the most

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sampson0420

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newbie grow420 said:
Well I have gotten a little happy with the nutes so I will probably flush 2 weeks before and water with some molasses until 3 or 4 days before harvest and I'm gonna try 2 days of darkness right before. From all I read this seems like this will work definately not doing 8/16 keeping 12/12
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the prob I have with all this flushing and dark periods before harvest are that I have plants that are finishing at a diff pace. I also have budsites that are finishing a different pace.

Granted, it will most likely be under 7-10 days apart, I still want to grow my underlying buds in a bit more after chopping the main nugz off. Does this not make sense or am I better off chopping all at once?
 
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newbie grow420

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sampson0420 said:
the prob I have with all this flushing and dark periods before harvest are that I have plants that are finishing at a diff pace. I also have budsites that are finishing a different pace.

Granted, it will most likely be under 7-10 days apart, I still want to grow my underlying buds in a bit more after chopping the main nugz off. Does this not make sense or am I better off chopping all at once?
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I think your right but both mine started same day from germ. only got 2 and I thought of cutting top then letting mid and lower finish but I got lights on top and middle so I don't think I will have to go that route since tops getting as much lights as the middle. But I will watch the buds and see when they tell me there ready. Even if I don't do the 2 days thing I can still water with molasses and let the 1 that need more time have them but what do I know this is my first so screw ups here I come
 
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madcatter

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It depends... normally the upper trich;s are a little more advanced since it isw closer to light source.... some of the lower branches may be a week behind... if you have more cloudy trichs you will get more of a cerebral high.... YOu may want to seperate your cure into tops and bottoms and see if you notice a difference... if ya don't then questiuon asked and answerred for next time...
 
DoeEyed

DoeEyed

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sampson0420 said:
Granted, it will most likely be under 7-10 days apart, I still want to grow my underlying buds in a bit more after chopping the main nugz off. Does this not make sense or am I better off chopping all at once?
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Yep, perfect sense. Finish out the lower buds, if you can.
 
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Ice Goddess

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We started noticing plumping a good bit in week 6 almost week 7. We also changed the nutes to PBPB though a few days before so that could have somethign to do with it as well. :wall:
 
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Newb1985

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newbie grow420 said:
really can't understand you I think your saying fuck cfl get HPS and I am considering a 400w with digital ballast next time will use cfl for veg then HPS for flower plus I learned fuck soil and fuck flys lil black bastards. Going soilless to probably bubble ponics which will have its learning curve
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AHAHAH "Little Black Bastards" Lmao....I hate the the crawly little fuckers aswell. BTW...how was the bud ? The end product ?
 
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Newb1985

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Medicalimedical said:
During flowering I would cut the lights back to only 6-8 hours of light lots of fans, good advanced nutes, and HID lights. CFLs are not so good for flowering because the buds become less dense and airy. My flowers are extremely heavy just as beggining cloves. Keep the CFL as close as possible to create nice dense non airy buds. The last week before you harvest flush 3-1 ratio of water vs soil do not feed, or water after the flush. Starve the plant and the nutes will go right to the buds. Half way through your flowering stage start pinching stems, twisting and lightly damaging the branches. This sends the nutes directly to the bud creating twice as much tricones as usual and density Plus more flowers that will pop out. Good luck ...the last three weeks is the most impressive your buds will be. Remember to flower for at least half or a little more of the plants life this will create an ounce or more extra
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^^^^This is terrible advice for newb. MedicalImedical you really need to stop regurgitating shit that you read off other forums.
 
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Grampa

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In the first several weeks of flowering you will get mostly bud development(calyx and white hairs) with some stretching. There is a lot of plumping in the third week BEFORE harvest. In the last 2 weeks of flowering the trichomes go milky and then start to turn amber near the last week before harvest. (I usually wait until i have amber crystals on the sugar leaves) THEN! before the chopdown I give the plants 48 hours of darkness and the buds swell with resin. This also get the plants a little frostier. Without the lights on the plants move all of the carbs and sugars out of the plant and use them on the buds. I think this makes my week taste better too. Hope this helps out and best of luck to you.

Be kind.
 
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Newb1985

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sampson0420 said:
I would take medicali's suggestions with a huge grain of salt... some of his methods are really questionable.
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I know this thread is old but well said Sampson, medicalimedical has given some awful advice to Noobs (me being one) I think he just daily regurgitates rubbish that he reads elsewhere because ive seen him on other forums giving the exact same info. Clearly a writer and not a grower. Useless.
 
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Crap Weasle

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Medicalimedical said:
During flowering I would cut the lights back to only 6-8 hours of light lots of fans, good advanced nutes, and HID lights. CFLs are not so good for flowering because the buds become less dense and airy. My flowers are extremely heavy just as beggining cloves. Keep the CFL as close as possible to create nice dense non airy buds. The last week before you harvest flush 3-1 ratio of water vs soil do not feed, or water after the flush. Starve the plant and the nutes will go right to the buds. Half way through your flowering stage start pinching stems, twisting and lightly damaging the branches. This sends the nutes directly to the bud creating twice as much tricones as usual and density Plus more flowers that will pop out. Good luck ...the last three weeks is the most impressive your buds will be. Remember to flower for at least half or a little more of the plants life this will create an ounce or more extra
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Hello, cfls are good as a secondary light due to the type of blue light it sends. Use in veg and last 2 weeks of flower for massive trichome output. I run cfls all the way thru as side lighting with tremendous results. Molasses is a must. Try kelp as well. Hope this helps. Pic is second week flower. The trichomes now, a week later, week 3,
look like powdered sugar covering all
 

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MayaG

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DoeEyed said:
I wouldn't do that. Most of that advice will turn your plant hermie before anything else. Most of what was described (extra trichomes, more flowers) happens all on it's own, near the end. Keep them on 12/12, don't starve them, don't start damaging them. Personally, I don't even flush. You aren't going to have a problem unless you're seriously overfeeding them.
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You seriously don't flush. And you dont taste the nutes ? Any time I didnt flush good I could taste it. I do however use the molasses water.
 
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Dougnsalem

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MayaG said:
You seriously don't flush. And you dont taste the nutes ? Any time I didnt flush good I could taste it. I do however use the molasses water.
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Quick noob tip- click on the moniker of the person you are replying to first. DoeEyed hasn't logged in here for 9 years....

(Been there, done that. Lol)
 
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steveepeeps

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newbie grow420 said:
6-8 hours of lights are you serious? 16 to 18 or darkness? I have heard of at most 10/14 but never 6/18 or 8/14 anyone else know about this time frame?
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This is what happens outside in nature, basic common sense if you ask me, which we are trying to imitate, as winter approaches days get shorter to 8 hours of light and 16 dark , and no they do not hermie, if you have finished the 8 weeks flower cycle, while you are adding a few extra weeks for flushing change the light, they respond because as I said they are approaching winter.
 
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steveepeeps

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You don't need to flush either, they don't get flushed in nature do they lmao, as long as you cut before the lights come on you will be fine as all the nutrients go from the plant to the roots at lights off . and if you're going to mention black ash from not flushing, that's also to do with not drying it properly, dry and cure it properly and it will taste and burn properly.
 
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MayaG

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DoeEyed said:
I wouldn't do that. Most of that advice will turn your plant hermie before anything else. Most of what was described (extra trichomes, more flowers) happens all on it's own, near the end. Keep them on 12/12, don't starve them, don't start damaging them. Personally, I don't even flush. You aren't going to have a problem unless you're seriously overfeeding them.
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I have to agree with you on that. Plants are not going to thrive with such little light. Good way for some bananas. Lol
 
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MayaG

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This is actually an easy question. Now there are many of so called techniques that some Vladimir have worked at getting better quality, more yield and I agree that is possible. But not by starving the plant of much needed light. PLANTS REQUIRE 12/12 during flowering and 18to 24 hrs. of light when in veg.
Now supercropping, topping, fimming etc. are ways to get more yield but quality and yield depends on the strain, light intensity, and feeding of those plants. Baby those girls and treat them well and you will see that they will provide you with plenty of love in return.
 
bernie344

bernie344

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newbie grow420 said:
I was wondering when they plump up like what week of flowering? It seems mine aren't fattening up much.
My setup is : soil 4 week veg under shit lights. Im on nearly 4 weeks 12/12 with 5 cfls. 1st 2 weeks 2 42w then 2 more 1 42w 1 26w daylight and now 4 42w a 1 26w now a total of 194w
The only nutes I have used is miracle grow during veg and now every week with FF tiger bloom. Its all I can afford right now

Will or should they start putting on weight and filling out also the last 9 days have been real fucking cold here and temps are hovering around 70 lights on and 62 to 64 when there off and thats with the lights on all night

What do you guys/gals think?
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You get what you pay for, cheap setup = poor result.
Your buds may not fatten up ever depends if your lucky
 
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