When laws are immoral is it okay to break them ?

Parker

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I disagree with following the laws of the land....at one time the law of the land had it where one person could own another...If the law is wrong or immoral it should not be followed..Now if someone kicked down your door you have the right to blow that cocksucker to hell for he is coming to harm you/yours...and far as the bible ...please don't... that book has to many flaws and is used to control people..some laws are just stupid and need to be changed. until then ...break them as long as it don't hurt others
I understood the law saying one person CAN own another since I believe people are property and fall under property rights. Under contract you yourself can enter into an agreement to for wont of a better term "sell yourself into slavery". I never understood HOW that was allowed SINCE the ones enslaved were kidnapped. No one should profit from an illegal act. Anyone think you should profit from an illegal act? btw - I do not think selling weed is an illegal act. Stealing it and selling it is.
 

crackerboy

Active Member
I disagree with following the laws of the land....at one time the law of the land had it where one person could own another...If the law is wrong or immoral it should not be followed..Now if someone kicked down your door you have the right to blow that cocksucker to hell for he is coming to harm you/yours...and far as the bible ...please don't... that book has to many flaws and is used to control people..some laws are just stupid and need to be changed. until then ...break them as long as it don't hurt others

The Bible only seems flawed because you don't understand it. It was not made to control people. Corrupt man tries to twist it to control man. But if you read the Bible it tells you all about those people and how to spot them.
 

RavenMochi

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Many people seem to confuse legal with good and illegal with bad. Or they seem to be inconsistent, in that they "get it" on some issues, that people should control themselves, but grant exceptions on other issues where it is okay for a majority to control a minority without the minorities consent. Is this acceptable? Unacceptable?
What are your thoughts?
This is my humble opinion, and only my opinion.

No one else has to answer to myself but me, and I always have to answer to myself. They're is no escaping myself, because I see everything I do, and I see through any excuse I can come up with that lacks sincerity. As such, I don't pay "law" any attention whatsoever save for just enough to not get busted, afterall, I can do no one any good locked up. Doing something you know is wrong as hell to be a law abiding citizen to me is the act of a coward, and I wonder how they can look at themselves in the mirror. Make no mistake, I am not righteous, I'm an abomination, even with that, what code I do have means more to me then any law man will ever write.
 

RavenMochi

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The Bible only seems flawed because you don't understand it. It was not made to control people. Corrupt man tries to twist it to control man. But if you read the Bible it tells you all about those people and how to spot them.
Actually, in theology class we learned it was a council of man that put together the collection we now know as the bible, and from what we know, at least one book was kept out because the women in it "was acting like a man" ie, had a strong character, and another book, the book of daniel was believed to be a folk tale, but they put it in because it was popular. Anything can make sense if you want it to bad enough...
 

doc111

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"Anarchy is not always chaos. It can be simply the absence of a central authority that RELIES upon violence to stay in power, like government for instance. Many anarchists do not want to run your life or kick in your door, they simply want to run their own lives unmolested. I believe the term they use is Voluntarist. Speaking of kicking in doors, cops can and do kick in doors and arrest peaceful people don't they?
Hell yeah they do! And sometimes they kick in the wrong door and then refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Cocksuckers!:cuss:


http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/10/cops-invade-wrong-house-on-drug-raid-terrorize-elderly-couple.html
 

Johnnyorganic

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http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_d6b1aaca-edfc-527f-ad11-f1691fdc6e3b.html

A jury pool in Missoula thought the law was immoral. Prosecutors could not select (rig) a jury in favor of cannabis prohibition. Now they are complaining that the potential jurors took the law into their own hands.

Although this is not jury nullification in the strictest sense, a jury could not be seated based on philosophical objection of the law. That's how to do it.

Jury nullification was a common occurrence in the waning days of alcohol prohibition.

I hope this opens a new chapter in the war on the war on drugs; which is really a war on the American people.
 

klmmicro

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I hope this opens a new chapter in the war on the war on drugs; which is really a war on the American people.[/QUOTE] Call me an optimist, but this is exactly what is happening. With the states that have medical cannabis laws now showing that the drug is not the root of all crime, the people are starting to scratch their heads in wonder. The original prohibition was based on outright lies and misinformation and I am astounded that it carried for so long. The government has a credibility issue and this is one of those areas that will only push more division. Note the complaints of the prosecutors...they are not finding enough folks that still believe in the cause of prohibition to effectively prosecute their falsity any longer. Thank you for small justice!
 

Saxodile

Active Member
They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority. - G. Massey
That pretty much sums it up

The Bible only seems flawed because you don't understand it. It was not made to control people. Corrupt man tries to twist it to control man. But if you read the Bible it tells you all about those people and how to spot them.
I would say that the bible is in fact more than flawed but more so corrupt. It's a handbook for religious leaders for control. They constantly talk about sacrificing things live (Children, Wives, Brothers) to god just to show that you believe. That basically teaches the bible followers to hate those that aren't followers themselves to be hated. Therefor If you are afraid of gods followers or afraid of the bibles lies itself then you have no choice to have "faith." Today we can get away with being atheist because there are enough people that believe in reason to keep these streets safe from believers.
 

medicineman

New Member
If somebody is starving and homeless that is unfortunate, but if they are lazy or have made poor choices nobody else should be made to
subsidize them. Certainly it is noble to provide charity, but to take from another person against their will is wrong...hmm isn't that sort of what taxes are?
Same old tired bullshit. The facts are, Maybe everyone is created equal, but their opportunities are far from equal. You'll hear righties burble out, "hey, I made mine, why can't everyone else make theirs". Well, righties, because they can't, Never could and never will. The world is not about equal chances. Does a 3rd world citizen have the same chances to get wealthy as here in the good old USA? Not even. Does a guy from the ghettos of inner city life have the same chances as an upper middle class spoiled brat Harvard educated and given a choice "Position in society? hell no. There are various shades of equal, and no matter how hard you righties try and spiel that we are all created with an equal chance, you are just wrong.
 

brownbearclan

Active Member
I think it's a personal decision but in regards to MJ laws, break them, break them all to shit!

I've thought about this a lot and I think where it all needs to start is the cops on the street. If they refuse to enforce stupid laws then eventually they will get taken off the books. We should have a national educate a cop day or something. =)

I know this will get a lot of negative reactions, but the bible says render under Cesar what is Cesar's. It says that we are to follow the laws placed on us...
Haha indeed, all credibility goes out the window when people start quoting the bible, I love your avatar pic though. =)
 

klmmicro

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I think it's a personal decision but in regards to MJ laws, break them, break them all to shit!

I've thought about this a lot and I think where it all needs to start is the cops on the street. If they refuse to enforce stupid laws then eventually they will get taken off the books. We should have a national educate a cop day or something. =)
I would agree with this. I have asked a few cops that I know about their personal feelings on cannabis. Surprisingly, they said that they did not really care about the law when it came to small "personal quantities". I have had several run-ins in my youth where the officer took my small bag, but let me walk. I am not thinking that this is exactly what you are talking about, it tells me that the mindset may be changing. At least in my state, I think that a small bag (under an ounce) will probably go "unnoticed" as it will be an infraction come Saturday. No real incentive to mess with people over it.
 
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