When To Add Nutes

CaptainCarnival

CaptainCarnival

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ok so i started my plant a little over a month ago and recently its been looking rough first it wasnt doing anything now its doing a bunch but recently it started to turn yellow at the tips of its bigger leaves and the first two leaves at the bottom are completely yellow with brown spots... what should i do to help my little plant survive???IMG_20120116_160741.jpgIMG_20120116_160807.jpgIMG_20120117_002607.jpg sorry for posting so much about this little lady im just worried about her... Any advice would help i think it looks like a possible nutrient deficiency... she's 3 or 4 inches tall. when does anybody think i should start adding nutes to her soil
 
massah

massah

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Without knowing what you are growing in for soil, what you are using for lighting, pot size, temps, etc...we have no way of answering this...and anyone who gives you an answer is just giving you bullshit randomness that isn't going to help you.

The only thing we know is your cotyledons are gone, so it must get nutrients from the soil at this point, but it may be a nutrient issue, it might be a PH issue, it might be a light issue. Detail out whats going on to expect good answers :)
 
CaptainCarnival

CaptainCarnival

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its one plant in a 1 gallon pot with a mix of roots organic soil and fox farm ocean soil with a 4ft x 6 bulb T8 in a room that is around 70-75 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. there is mylar under over and around it. and i dont know the pH currently. the nutrients im going to use are Cutting edge solutions micro, bloom, and grow. does that help?
 
massah

massah

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so is the temperature inside your grow area 70-75 as well or is it higher? How close is the rack of bulbs to the plants? 1 gallon pot seems a bit small...how tall is that plant(hard to tell with nothing to reference the size)?

Any idea what the PH of your water is? Usually yellowing/browning of lower leaf tips in a young plant is signs of PH issues or possible overnuting...how often and how much are you watering? Are you giving it any nutrients yet? The soil probably has plenty of nutrients in it already, but depending on how much that root system has developed and engulfed that 1 gallon pot kinda says how much would be left...

If you take the plant+pot and put it on its side and grab at the base of the stem and pull out the root mass are the roots circling around the pot all over the place and lots of roots showing on the outside and bottom? If so its rootbound and needs a larger container...

Take a picture with that mylar removed showing the plant + pot in its entirety :D
 
massah

massah

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meh...ok i just read your post again...only 3-4" tall...thats mighty small...and should be fine in a 1gallon pot right now...fucked if I know...lol :D
 
Stinkmeaner

Stinkmeaner

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um...you sure thats a month old plant? look veeewy veeeewy small to me
your lighting must be pretty weak
 
macrael

macrael

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im sure your doing ok the tops are looking good they probily got damaged from the mylar and like what everybodys saying get some better lights get some blue in there maybe a uv light blue s are important at that stage keep away from reds they can turn your plants male
 
macrael

macrael

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i also noticed a few tips were burnt i would get rid of that mylar but thats just me when u do start with the nutes start at half the dosage whats your humidity at
 
CaptainCarnival

CaptainCarnival

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the lights are about 4 inches above the plant but i can put my hand on them and hold it there without being burned. the temp inside the grow space is 70-75 the room is about 69 all the time. i just recently moved it to this bigger pot and has been doing better since its been there. im only watering about once a week
 
macrael

macrael

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you really need to check you ph level coming out the tap i was about to say b4 that during transplant you could have damaged the roots leading to the dead leaves you can start with the nutes when ever you feel like its growing more rapidly my first time i just had two 35w ho neons from sunblaster and it seemed like it took for ever to grow 3 months was about two almost three feet tall you would be better off with a 250w 400w hps or look for a dimmable electric ballast 400 600 w from lumitek or similar type
 
bkbbudz

bkbbudz

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HMMM...I am not sure here but you did say you mixed 2 nutrient rich premium soils together and put a seedling in it?...are there any other additives such as perlite, vermiculite, dolomite anything to buffer the nutes at all? If no, ou have your answer. Roots are probably burnt to a crisp so no growth, and she needs help now! If yes to the additives, how much did you add and did you pre-flush the medium before planting. Does'nt really matter at this point. She needs a much more friendly environment if she is gonna survive. I would be likely to take some of ONE of those soils and, mix it 30% soil, 30% inert perlite, and 30% inert sphagnum or coco coir, vermiculite or really anything else that is stable and will keep the roots moist but aeratted. Put the soil in 3 a 3 gallon pot (I suggest 3 gallons so you can leave her there until harvest and avoid another transplant). Flush the soil with a good 3-5 gallons of ph'd water. Let it drain for several hours, at least 8. Then transplant her. She will NOT need more nutes for another 4 weeks or so. When feeding time comes, start at 1/4 dose and build up by 1/4 dose every 3rd feeding. Let the soil dry pretty darn good between waterings and feedings to allow oxygen to flow. I think this should clear her up. Good Luck!
 
CaptainCarnival

CaptainCarnival

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well the roots organic soil has: coco, peat moss, perlite, pumice,virgin forest meal, livestock manure, worm castings, bat guano, kelp, fish bone meal, soybean meal, green sand, and alfalfa meal.
and the Fox Farm Ocean has: composted forest hums, sphagnum peat moss, pacific northwest sea-going fish emulsion, crab meal, shrimp meal, earthworm castings, sandy loam, perlite, fossilized bat guano, granite dust, Norwegian kelp meal, oyster shell
its mixed 50/50 as recommended from grow store. the water used is clean filtered water. the roots when last seen had plenty of room to grow. Could it be that i need more nitrogen since i havent been using nutrients?
 
bkbbudz

bkbbudz

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bkbbudz said:
HMMM...I am not sure here but you did say you mixed 2 nutrient rich premium soils together and put a seedling in it?...are there any other additives such as perlite, vermiculite, dolomite anything to buffer the nutes at all? If no, ou have your answer. Roots are probably burnt to a crisp so no growth, and she needs help now! If yes to the additives, how much did you add and did you pre-flush the medium before planting. Does'nt really matter at this point. She needs a much more friendly environment if she is gonna survive. I would be likely to take some of ONE of those soils and, mix it 30% soil, 30% inert perlite, and 30% inert sphagnum or coco coir, vermiculite or really anything else that is stable and will keep the roots moist but aeratted. Put the soil in a large pot (I suggest a minimum 3 gallons so you can leave her there until harvest and avoid another transplant). Flush the soil with a good 3-5 gallons of ph'd water. Let it drain for several hours, at least 8. Then transplant her. She will NOT need more nutes for another 4 weeks or so. When feeding time comes, start at 1/4 dose and build up by 1/4 dose every 3rd feeding. Let the soil dry pretty darn good between waterings and feedings to allow oxygen to flow. I think this should clear her up. Good Luck!
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