when to flush?

edge99

Member
Just wondering when is the best time to start flushing my plants. I have been doing it 10 days before harvest. Also do I need to buy a flushing agent or can I just flush with straight PHed water. Oh almost forgot I'm growing in soil.
 

Brimi

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I think 10 days sounds okay - could probably go for more days - depends on how thoroughly you flush. You can use PHed water - will be just great. Probably a lot of great products out there, but i flush my plants in water only since my flushing means flushing away everything that is not my baby girl's own medicine - not adding more stuff or fake vanilla taste and stuff like that - ew.
 

reggaerican

Well-Known Member
i used to flush mine for 10-14 days but now i use a final flush product and i flush for 3.5 days with no difference in taste
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
So do you just run your nutes down to the end?
I never "run them up" such that it's a problem regarding stress to the plant. You should give your plants whatever they need to retain their leaves in a healthy and green condition until harvest.
 

Mr.E Man

Member
Uncle ben, so glad you decided to reply to this... i knew you'd say something like this. I was wondering have you done side by side flushed and not flushed smoke tests?

If so thanks for clearing this up, they always say that flushing prevents the tree from charring black instead of beat white (and something to do with harshness). I have seen this in my early attempts to grow dry and cure and was wondering what other factors are involved in this (always rushing to smoke it). My ladies come out nice and healthy green. How would it have anything to do with the growing/flowering process? Am i not drying enough? or curing long enough? How long and in what conditions do you dry and cure? please redirect if you have already written about this.

on another note... whats ur opinion of re-vegging? have you tried it?
 

Uncle Ben

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Uncle ben, so glad you decided to reply to this... i knew you'd say something like this. I was wondering have you done side by side flushed and not flushed smoke tests?

If so thanks for clearing this up, they always say that flushing prevents the tree from charring black instead of beat white (and something to do with harshness). I have seen this in my early attempts to grow dry and cure and was wondering what other factors are involved in this (always rushing to smoke it). My ladies come out nice and healthy green. How would it have anything to do with the growing/flowering process? Am i not drying enough? or curing long enough? How long and in what conditions do you dry and cure? please redirect if you have already written about this.

on another note... whats ur opinion of re-vegging? have you tried it?
As I've said for years, if someone can directly link palate quality with flushing, the chemical/botanical cause and effect, I'm all ears.

I don't get taken in by the mystique, romance, and hype of forum/magazine "curing" methods. I think the palate and feel taste and quality can be directly linked to the amount and make up of the tars and terpenes found in the cannabis organic matter. The Dutch started this nonsense as an "atonement" for burning their plants with too much plant foods from the get-go.

I just harvested the last of my outdoor plant (paltry at that thanks to hungry grasshoppers). The leaves are nice and green, very moist and cool to the touch, and it's drying rather fast in a wine cellar with an ultra low RH (I use an A/C for cooling). I'll post pix soon, most likely in my sticky thread. Once the smaller stems start snapping rather than bending, the buds go into a baggie for moisture equilibrium.

UB
 

Spanishfly

Well-Known Member
"Flushing" is a myth. Flushing products are there to make money for those selling their snake oils.
Uncle Ben, couldn´t agree more.

I did an experiment one year - ´flushed´ some plants, not others - could detect absolutely no difference whatever between them.

But then do market gardeners flush tomatoes that are already on the vine hoping to get a better taste? Course they don´t.
 

Mr.E Man

Member
Sound Advice. Almost fell for them good ol' H2O elixirs. If only the placebo worked with plants! Nonetheless you gotta love the science behind this beautiful hobby that we are all so fortunate to share.
 

supdro

Well-Known Member
As I've said for years, if someone can directly link palate quality with flushing, the chemical/botanical cause and effect, I'm all ears.

I don't get taken in by the mystique, romance, and hype of forum/magazine "curing" methods. I think the palate and feel taste and quality can be directly linked to the amount and make up of the tars and terpenes found in the cannabis organic matter. The Dutch started this nonsense as an "atonement" for burning their plants with too much plant foods from the get-go.

I just harvested the last of my outdoor plant (paltry at that thanks to hungry grasshoppers). The leaves are nice and green, very moist and cool to the touch, and it's drying rather fast in a wine cellar with an ultra low RH (I use an A/C for cooling). I'll post pix soon, most likely in my sticky thread. Once the smaller stems start snapping rather than bending, the buds go into a baggie for moisture equilibrium.

UB


Uncle ben... when you say they go into baggies? i am very interested in your drying and curing techniques
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
It is not a pleasure to say this but every person who has made entries into this thread so far have been seriously misguilded. First of all there isn't any point in flushing the medium that the plant is growing in. This is a waste of time . To properly water flush a potplant it is first cut off at the butt and place into purified water from one of those reverse osmosis water purifying machines, much like a person would place a fresh cut flower into a vase of water. This is usually done in the op for one 24 hour shift from lights on and remove when lights are on again. It's important to strip off large fan leaves because this taste can effect the taste of the bud. Do not let the plants go dry during this process, especially when the lights are on!!!!
 

SmokeyMc74

Active Member
you have to flush be serious now the reason they dontfor tomatoes is cause there feeding them a nute that is 0-50-30is will justremove some salts and allow for better burning and a little better smoke
 

Uncle Ben

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you have to flush be serious now the reason they dontfor tomatoes is cause there feeding them a nute that is 0-50-30is will justremove some salts and allow for better burning and a little better smoke
Again, "flushing" is just another cannabis myth, now a paradigm. It's one of those "if the lie is repeated enough, it becomes the truth", and most cannabis forum members will about fall for any gimmick that someone comes up with.....it's just what they do.

Just because something is popular does not mean it carries any merit, especially when it comes to cannabis grow forums.

Mexican pot growers don't flush, Kentucky or Virginian tobacco growers don't flush, etc.

Your challenge people is to find out what the active ingredient is in one of the snake oils, say.....Clearex, and explain the cause and effect that it has on the plant which supposedly improves one's palate and lung experience. Sorry, but anecdotal evidence, another "feel-good" explanation doesn't cut it.

Thanks,
UB
 

Brimi

Well-Known Member
Again, "flushing" is just another cannabis myth, now a paradigm. It's one of those "if the lie is repeated enough, it becomes the truth", and most cannabis forum members will about fall for any gimmick that someone comes up with.....it's just what they do.

Just because something is popular does not mean it carries any merit, especially when it comes to cannabis grow forums.

Mexican pot growers don't flush, Kentucky or Virginian tobacco growers don't flush, etc.

Your challenge people is to find out what the active ingredient is in one of the snake oils, say.....Clearex, and explain the cause and effect that it has on the plant which supposedly improves one's palate and lung experience. Sorry, but anecdotal evidence, another "feel-good" explanation doesn't cut it.

Thanks,
UB
I like you Uncle Ben ;O))
 

MightyZeppelin

Well-Known Member
I agree, flushing is a myth.

I use the Lucas Method from beginning to end in my AeroFlo 36. No additives, Nothing, Ever. MMMmmmm tastes soo good, yields are great.

Don't over think the process. Give the girls what they need to be happy and nothing more.

That's my two cents.

Happy growing ;)
 
I hear a lot of people saying that flushing is a myth, I think it depends on the entire scenario including the nutes you use. My buddy doesn't flush and his smoke is okay (he runs organics)......In my situation, I'm using Botanicare's CNS17 nutes, and when I don't flush, my smoke is harsh and it sparkles when hit with the lighter.
 
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