Where Are The Pure Sativa Strains At?!

if you don't like what i have to say, then just fucking mute me. i'm about to stuff a sock in your mouth as i won't indulge anyone's attitude. i don't care if someone is redundant. you never know WHO's just joined here and is reading something for the first time AND i only have 2 actual harvests worth of grow under my belt to contend with.

it wasn't putting up with highland thai's fussy demands that i cut it down either. it was that once it DID eventually start flowering, it turned fucking tranny on me and started spraying everything else in my garden which was not cool at all, especially as i was trying to breed stuff with C99. turning hermie was the last straw. otherwise, i WOULD have been happy to start tying it down after everything else was finished.

there is NOT a huge difference between OUTDOOR california grown columbian & indoor grown haze skunk either. yes, gold was trippier, but haze skunk has it's compensation most notably being that it's indoor friendly.

it's NOT the lasts train i ever want to try though. i bet there's stuff even trippier like sativa seeds' haze #1 which i bet is the more IBL nirvana H19 skunk rebranded or possibly even 75% columbian gold which i'm very keen to test. i really don't care for the cigar wrapper with hints of ashtraty taste of HQS' haze skunk either. i KNOW i can improve on that, probably with a lemon haze.

when i've tested more stuff, i'll have more to say.

i WOULD love to SCROG an IBL indoors, but ONLY if i had a head stash to keep me going. i went through all 6 of my C99s, my 1 tiny LSD, & my one haze skunk in just a couple months time where i was expecting to be good for at least half a year. once i get back to growing, i don't ever want to run out of smoke again.

its not attitude i bring im just saying you write these epics that i end up usually not reading because their epics that ive read before im jsut saying try changing it up i know you said

you had a short fuse well keep it lit mate cause your only giving your self a bad look im not trying to knock you im just saying if your asking for help take someones advice rather

than try and give them strains that you think fit your searrch that you already tried

i have aspergers i come off rash but dont mean too im just saying your doing crap for your search

you can stress a sativa to hermie fast it takes a couple session to figure out what the lady wants

edit ps.. running out is what makes me strive to do things right and not have to worrie about running out

i don't like being trash talked to. i don't do it to anyone else and won't sit still for it. again, just mute me. that's what i do to anyone i don't want to hear from and that's pretty much only trash talkers.

my philosophy is...
whenever someone instigates, beat them until they see the error of their ways and apologize or until they stop breathing, whichever comes first. indulging such behavior only encourages it. if someone doesn't like the way i react to THEIR attitude, then maybe they should stop having one. i only react one way to attitude. i'm the wrong person to test.

i really wish everyone else followed that policy. then there'd be a lot less a holes in the world.

hazey grapes said:

if you don't like what i have to say, then just fucking mute me. i'm about to stuff a sock in your mouth as i won't indulge anyone's attitude. i don't care if someone is redundant. you never know WHO's just joined here and is reading something for the first time AND i only have 2 actual harvests worth of grow under my belt to contend with.

it wasn't putting up with highland thai's fussy demands that i cut it down either. it was that once it DID eventually start flowering, it turned fucking tranny on me and started spraying everything else in my garden which was not cool at all, especially as i was trying to breed stuff with C99. turning hermie was the last straw. otherwise, i WOULD have been happy to start tying it down after everything else was finished.

there is NOT a huge difference between OUTDOOR california grown columbian & indoor grown haze skunk either. yes, gold was trippier, but haze skunk has it's compensation most notably being that it's indoor friendly.

it's NOT the lasts train i ever want to try though. i bet there's stuff even trippier like sativa seeds' haze #1 which i bet is the more IBL nirvana H19 skunk rebranded or possibly even 75% columbian gold which i'm very keen to test. i really don't care for the cigar wrapper with hints of ashtraty taste of HQS' haze skunk either. i KNOW i can improve on that, probably with a lemon haze.

when i've tested more stuff, i'll have more to say.

i WOULD love to SCROG an IBL indoors, but ONLY if i had a head stash to keep me going. i went through all 6 of my C99s, my 1 tiny LSD, & my one haze skunk in just a couple months time where i was expecting to be good for at least half a year. once i get back to growing, i don't ever want to run out of smoke again.

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If you ever happen to run into the tranny issue again, you might wish to try DM Gold Reverse.

hazey lol if you read me close i wasnt taking any offence so again im sorry

im just lettingyou know how you look to the third party

desperate

hazey grapes said:

i don't like being trash talked to. i don't do it to anyone else and won't sit still for it.

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I doubt if buddy is capable of sitting still if he wanted to.

around the kind of nice people EVERYONE ELSE tries to screw over or look down on, i am THE nicest guy in the world. i don't lie, cheat or steal and have no interest at all in social climbing. i don't want to be higher up the ladder than anyone else, but don't hesitate to knock anyone who tries to get over on me down to on their butt. i just have no tolerance for that crap. anyone that's an enemy of mine deserves it and asks for it. you just get what you give back twofold with me.

maybe you weren't trying to start an argument, but the things you said are the same things i've heard from trolls that like to push my buttons like NON-buddy and i like to nip that crap in the bud. i have issues, but disrespecting anyone who's being civil or minding their own biz isn't one of them. that's why i ask anyone it sounds like i'm running the wrong way to mute me as it's only going to get worse as they test my patience.

i'm not pointing a finger here, just keeping it real and sharing where i'm coming from. i've had MANY downright FRIENDLY discussions with people who hate what i love and vice versus when the discussion stays on whatever the subject is, but i DO take people trying to tell me what i can & can't say personally. i don't go for any kind of authoritarian pecking order crap, and i'll be the first to jump in an argument against a dozen people picking on one even if i don't agree with their opinion or whatever.

this is just who i am, go ahead and call me an asshole because i refuse to indulge the power games that define society's every nuance and i won't even flinch because i'm very self aware of my social limitations, but don't ever call me a liar or a thief. LOL

can we get back to the discussion of weed now? i wanted to name the high hybrids i want to test when i move next month, but have already written a few paragraphs.

I don't think you're not a nice guy, I think you're just passionate about this.... and I can feel that. I'm just like that when I get really adamant about something, often times people just look at me like I'm the crazy one but there's a difference between crazy and being adamant.

just because of my mod status doesnt mean im trying to wield power with a big stick

im jsut saying theres a point to where things just become spam because its in everythread in a section man

no, it's not just that. i have a natural ability to rub people the wrong way because i'm totally direct and don't like ass kissing politics & mincing words about ANYTHING. i think social protocols are a big reason the world is so screwed up. there's an unwritten social rule that annoys yesterday's dinner out of me...
"thou shalt not challenge the authority of whatever asshole has the biggest mouth no matter HOW right thou art!"
yeah... not in this effing lifetime! LOL

just about EVERYTHING in life is in some way tied to social climbing
- getting rich? that's so you have more than the next person and in the extreme, it makes you above the law like those wall street fuckers
- big cars & trucks? more than just compensation for small penises. there's a new thing in advertising called "unlocking the code" whose idea is to market DIRECTLY to the reptilian brain behind EVERY stupid fucking thing people do. in the case of selling SUVs, the operative word is POWER
- that same principle applies to breeding & selling cosmetics too. if you ever noticed, in cosmetic commercials, they're ALWAYS promising women to be "under control". subliminally, that means that using their product will make their pussy irresistable to "the alpha male" who's in control with her poonanny under it
- just today, i saw this efficious toadie, i won't say where, but who CONSTANTLY likes abusing what pittance of power he has in his little job to boss people around. man do i ever want to pop him in the grill every time i see his ass! he even blew a customer off for no reason other than to be a douchebag

in general, people are always weighing their status, jockying for position and testing those around them's limits. my response to ALL of that noise is
"fuck you bitch and the high horse you rode in on!"

i won lotsa popularity contests. LOL

BTW i started writing this BEFORE the previous reply so this is in no way to be taken as a response to that.

Reading a few of your posts you say that you want a real sativa high... then go on to say that you haven't got the patience to grow them... am I correct so far..?

thats my point but again people want what people want

I don't understand what the problem is really... what is a few more weeks if you get to smoke what you want to smoke...

If Grapes really wanted... like actually seriously wanted to grow a pure sativa he would...

It seems like it's just that he fantasizes about what it would be like and doesn't truly want it...

i've TRIED to grow pure highland thai, and actually, years ago argued with everyone that tried to talk me out of IBLs and steer me towards super silver haze & apollo 11 or even stonier gear that i just didn't want to hear about. it was just too much fuss dealing with thai in a mixed garden. like i said, it first got rootbound in a 16 oz cup, then in about a 1.7 gallon pot and then AGAIN in a 3 gallon one until it FINALLY started flowering and for all those MONTHS of trouble, all i got was a useless hermie anyways.

if i WERE to grow an IBL, and i really would like to, i'd either do it outdoors where it would be happier, or devote my entire room to scrogging. i just don't have the patience to wait over half a year to get high. there's other stuff that'll get me nice MUCH FASTER, C99 only takes 45 days to flower and as far as i'm concerned, that has an IBL buzz not much different from much slower kali mist, though clear headed & too energetic to sit still on is not my favorite buzz, but it beats the crap out of beasters & mids.

i defy ANYONE to grow some 8 miles high, haze skunk or super cali haze and deny that those smoke like various IBLs. i honestly couldn't tell a difference between super cali and the pure i was gifted about a month apart. all three of those buzzes are perfectly acceptable to me, but that won't stop me from looking for something better if it's out there.

really, WTF is everyone's problem with me "settling" for indoor friendly 75%ers with buzzes that make ME happy if not you? it's not that i demand the best in the world, it's just that i want absolutely NOTHING to do with couchlock EVER. if my top 3 strains really ARE "the best of the best" (man talk about getting 3x lucky!) that's fine by me. i love all 3 plenty and they ALL kick EVERYTHING'S ass i've paid for for over 25 years 10 times around the block before taking a dump on them. "the best" bud i've been able to buy after columbian gold vanished and afghanicrap invaded was skunk #1 direct from a grower i ran across for about a month and that still sucked.

here i thought i was a serious pot snob for comparing everything to columbian and having nothing but contempt for EVERYTHING i've wasted thousands of dollars on over the past 2 decades, but some of you take it to the next level. i'm just being practical. i don't have an outdoor location, and i don't want to wait half a year for bud i'll run out of in just a couple months. when i can, i'll take another go at highland thai or whatever IBLs i can get.

did i not mention getting jacked on a 10 pack of VISC burmese that was nothing but suicidal mutants & a 5 pack of delta 9 labs' mekong haze that was also 0%?! i've personally had it with wasting all that time & money & getting NO RESULTS where i get perfectly acceptable ones with haze skunk. i know i can find better and i'll keep looking, but it's not the life & death situation it seems to be for the rest of you to find it. for me, it's just a fun game of hide & seek & if i'm blazing said HS, i'll be having a ton of fun. that strain might even be trippier than i think as i never smoked it with a bong or took any woofing hits like i used to or as i learned... "get it deep in the alvioli".

i'll grow IBLs when i can and when i have a stash. until you go a year or so with NOTHING to smoke at all, you haven't walked in my shoes have you? i'm more than happy smoking haze skunk, super cali & 8 miles high. if you aren't, well that's YOUR problem. i'm just not going to settle for the first 3 stones i turned so to speak. killing fields sounds like amazing gear, but i don't want anything to do with necrophilia, even by name, but it tells me there's potentially even better gear waiting to be discovered. haze skunk smokes totally like an IBL with even more motivation than columbian gold if not as much visual etc. effects. until you've tried that, your arguments are moot because you don't know what you're talking about. it has definitely more psychoiactivity than kali mist.

if any breeder started working IBLs with C99 & lowryders instead of afghanis, there'd be even better gear out there for sure. super cali haze is a totally legit IBL experience if you consider haze to be IBL.

hmmm to me it seems like your lookin for something that does not exsist !!

you want the best sativa high , in a short plant , thats easy to grow and that doesnt take a long time lol

c99, appollo 11 ect ect ................. but there not real sativa highs in my mind there laced with alot of body , plus there from the same plant there just jack herer !!

witch have the same haze in them !! the haze thats in most dutch sativa strains !!

you can smoke 10 diff dutch sativa strains and not see a diff at all ! smoke c99 then apollo 11 ............. there just the same !!

to me you have to be willin to put the effort in to get new fresh exciteing sativa highs !!

ace have unique strains ................. not just reworked haze like most seed banks

here is my bangi haze day 23 of flower !!! a totaly unique electric sativa experiance !! ...................... unlike anything iv tryed ............. and iv tryed alot


this is grown in hydro under a 600 watt and is aces most indoor friendly strain !


ace and cannaboigen are as fresh and unique as your gunna find in the sativa world

mr nice is as good as it gets in terms of haze and haze hybrids !!! !!

durban posion is good , kali mist is excellent , dj shorts f13 is excellent ........................ but all of these arnts easy !!..... to grow, or to find a good pheno of !!


you seem to talk your self out of every strain you look at !! dismiss everything on a wim! !! ............. just keep growin c99 coz your not gunna get a sativa as easy to grow, that gives as good results ....................... period !

thats why its known as the holy grail , becouse gives a good sativa high, but grows like a indica !!

kingcapo123 said:

hmmm to me it seems like your lookin for something that does not exsist !!

you want the best sativa high , in a short plant , thats easy to grow and that doesnt take a long time lol

c99, appollo 11 ect ect ................. but there not real sativa highs in my mind there laced with alot of body , plus there from the same plant there just jack herer !!

witch have the same haze in them !! the haze thats in most dutch sativa strains !!

you can smoke 10 diff dutch sativa strains and not see a diff at all ! smoke c99 then apollo 11 ............. there just the same !!

to me you have to be willin to put the effort in to get new fresh exciteing sativa highs !!

ace have unique strains ................. not just reworked haze like most seed banks

here is my bangi haze day 23 of flower !!! a totaly unique electric sativa experiance !! ...................... unlike anything iv tryed ............. and iv tryed alot

this is grown in hydro under a 600 watt and is aces most indoor friendly strain !


ace and cannaboigen are as fresh and unique as your gunna find in the sativa world

mr nice is as good as it gets in terms of haze and haze hybrids !!! !!

durban posion is good , kali mist is excellent , dj shorts f13 is excellent ........................ but all of these arnts easy !!..... to grow, or to find a good pheno of !!


you seem to talk your self out of every strain you look at !! dismiss everything on a wim! !! ............. just keep growin c99 coz your not gunna get a sativa as easy to grow, that gives as good results ....................... period !

thats why its known as the holy grail , becouse gives a good sativa high, but grows like a indica !!

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I think he realizes that there isn't enough demand for true sativa highs that perform well indoors like C99... that's obviously what he's looking for... its possible it doesn't exist... YET.

poplars said:

I think he realizes that there isn't enough demand for true sativa highs that perform well indoors like C99... that's obviously what he's looking for... its possible it doesn't exist... YET.

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there is demand but there is also realisum !! you cant expect sativa's that grow like indica's ........................... c99 is a multi indica hybrid its not a real sativa !! its a pheno of jack herer (skunk,nl.haze) inbred for lots of generations ............................ its a good buzz but you can feel the indica in there , ............................ smokein 100 % pure sativa hybrid or even a nevilles haze 75% pure sativa .............................. there a massive differnce imho !!

if i was givin him advice id say a good dose of realisum !!!!. a bigger grow light!!! and alot less negitivity !!!

that or move somewere sub tropical were you can grow them outside lol

kingcapo123 said:

there is demand but there is also realisum !! you cant expect sativa's that grow like indica's ........................... c99 is a multi indica hybrid its not a real sativa !! its a pheno of jack herer (skunk,nl.haze) inbred for lots of generations ............................ its a good buzz but you can feel the indica in there , ............................ smokein 100 % pure sativa hybrid or even a nevilles haze 75% pure sativa .............................. there a massive differnce imho !!

if i was givin him advice id say a good dose of realisum !!!!. a bigger grow light!!! and alot less negitivity !!!

that or move somewere sub tropical were you can grow them outside lol

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but the fact that there is little demand for it really does add a factor into the equation here... who knows if it could be done or not if there isn't any serious demand for it???? just sayin'.

poplars said:

but the fact that there is little demand for it really does add a factor into the equation here... who knows if it could be done or not if there isn't any serious demand for it???? just sayin'.

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there is demand there everyone wants a sativa high thats easy to grow and finishs quick ! ................................. jack heaer , super silver haze, skunk 1 and a few others are the best attempts at this !!

but when were talkin about the best clear sativa highs ................................ there not gunna come easy or quick imho