Where Are The Pure Sativa Strains At?!

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TheLastWood

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Climatising a plant isn't going to make its flowering time shorter. Two totally different factors.

One is judiciated by environment and the other is related to maturuty. Do you think growing a sativa in afghanistan is going to turn it into an indica?

Climatising means growing a plant outside of its natural environmental conditions generationally until ut adapts to its new environment. Factors like temperature, humidity, light intensity and duration, biological attacks.

Ever notice how clones do better in a grow room than there parents did?

Shortening a sativas flowering time would be done by breeding the shorter flowering phenotypes together over multiple generations.
 

poplars

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Climatising a plant isn't going to make its flowering time shorter. Two totally different factors.

One is judiciated by environment and the other is related to maturuty. Do you think growing a sativa in afghanistan is going to turn it into an indica?

Climatising means growing a plant outside of its natural environmental conditions generationally until ut adapts to its new environment. Factors like temperature, humidity, light intensity and duration, biological attacks.

Ever notice how clones do better in a grow room than there parents did?

Shortening a sativas flowering time would be done by breeding the shorter flowering phenotypes together over multiple generations.
sorry but you really can't tell me that a plant that has been evolving for different light cycles and environments wont do it again, sorry I wont be discouraged by your certainty, which I doubt is backed up by fact.

I think the fact is, you, and other people, don't have the PATIENCE to see if it's possible. I think my work is done here.

and honestly, I have no motivation to believe somebody who has only been on this forum since 11' , and you speak with such utter certainty trying to denounce all possibilities, that means you yourself are unsure and really want to push this so you can re-affirm your own perspective for yourself, not interested buddy.
 

poplars

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and I have another point to make....

many of you are NOT outdoor growers... you don't realize how big of a difference climatization makes on the genetics of the plant... if you grow one plant one year and it doesn't finish but you pollinated it, grow those seeds next year, I guarantee you'll find a phenotype that finishes a little faster, repeat the process until you have what you're looking for.

how the fuck do you think this plant evolved to even deal with light cycles in the first place? your whole arrogance towards this makes me really question your true knowledge about cannabis as a plant and it's evolution....

I mean indoors, a plant doesn't really have the opprotunity to climatize, so if you tried to prove this to yourself from indoor breeding I'm afriad your knowledge is not sufficient enough to make any claims about what climatization can and cannot do. I don't mean to be mean here but all I was doing was looking for sativas to carry out a project, and you come in here with almost a troll-like attitude saying it isn't possible, when you don't even know for fucking sure. so for that, I say fuck off.
 

poplars

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im sorry but it just irks me when people forget what kind of plant we're growing here... don't let the lessons of indoor growing blind you from where this plant came from and what it is capable of.....
 

TheLastWood

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Well I actually followed your other thread as well until you bitched out and started crying like a little girl cuz someone who didn't register to the site before you argued with you.

I don't see why you think my registration date is the beggining of my existance but that's just stupid.

And also, you basically confirmed what I just said anyways. Reread your own post about the part "IF YOU POLLINATED IT". So shortening your flowering time is going to be done by BREEDING SHORTER FLOWERING PHENOTYPES, and you are after showrter flowerers, so you will select for shorter flowerers undoubtedly.

Therefore your succesant generations will have a shorter flowering time, because of breeding, not climatization.

Pick the longest flowerers and see what happens dumbass.

O I joined the site n feb of 2011 so I'm pretty good at typing for a 5 month old aren't i
 

poplars

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Well I actually followed your other thread as well until you bitched out and started crying like a little girl cuz someone who didn't register to the site before you argued with you.

I don't see why you think my registration date is the beggining of my existance but that's just stupid.

And also, you basically confirmed what I just said anyways. Reread your own post about the part "IF YOU POLLINATED IT". So shortening your flowering time is going to be done by BREEDING SHORTER FLOWERING PHENOTYPES, and you are after showrter flowerers, so you will select for shorter flowerers undoubtedly.

Therefore your succesant generations will have a shorter flowering time, because of breeding, not climatization.

Pick the longest flowerers and see what happens dumbass.

O I joined the site n feb of 2011 so I'm pretty good at typing for a 5 month old aren't i
sorry I still disagree, I believe climatization creates more short flowering phenotypes over time. so thanks for the semantics, dumbass.


for example, you may be able to find 1 or 2 shorter flowering phenotypes of a sativa if you cracked over 100 seeds indoors, but I can guarantee you that you wont see nearly as many indoors than outdoors because climatization tends to effect a vast chunk of the genetics, showing in the next generations through over 90% of the phenotypes.

I'm not just talking out of my ass here, you should pull your head out of yours...
 

TheLastWood

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Where did I say climatising is no such thing?

I never said it won't happen, but the timeframe your speaking of will be past your lifetime.

Climatising means getting aplant to grow outside it natural environment, so after a half dozen generations it will be happy at its new home and flourishing.

But your talking about something totally different.

A sativa is a sativa and an indica is an indica.

You may experience a week or two shorter flowering from less stress involved in growing her so far from natural conditions,

Let me explain.

An 16 week plant grows slowly and takes 18 weeks because it is struggling due to its environment. But after its great great grandchildren get accustomed, they are flourishing and finishing in 16 weeks. It seems faster to you but it is a 16 week strain.

I was simply trying to have a discussion, I didn't mean to be rude until you got all buthurt. Nontheless I don't want to argue with you.

You seem to have a vendetta against ppls registration times. You quit this site last time because someone tried to explain genetics to you and you didn't wanna listen cuz you had been here longer.

Any shortening of flowering times beyond what I stated will be due to breeding.

Believe me or not I don't care.
 

poplars

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Where did I say climatising is no such thing?

I never said it won't happen, but the timeframe your speaking of will be past your lifetime.

Climatising means getting aplant to grow outside it natural environment, so after a half dozen generations it will be happy at its new home and flourishing.

But your talking about something totally different.

A sativa is a sativa and an indica is an indica.

You may experience a week or two shorter flowering from less stress involved in growing her so far from natural conditions,

Let me explain.

An 16 week plant grows slowly and takes 18 weeks because it is struggling due to its environment. But after its great great grandchildren get accustomed, they are flourishing and finishing in 16 weeks. It seems faster to you but it is a 16 week strain.

I was simply trying to have a discussion, I didn't mean to be rude until you got all buthurt. Nontheless I don't want to argue with you.

You seem to have a vendetta against ppls registration times. You quit this site last time because someone tried to explain genetics to you and you didn't wanna listen cuz you had been here longer.

Any shortening of flowering times beyond what I stated will be due to breeding.

Believe me or not I don't care.

you do bring up good points.. but I must tell you this... I have seen very dramatic climatization after only one generation... I have no doubt I could do this within 10 years....

it might have something to do with how long outdoor plants have to grow in that environment before they are bred, gives the genetics a long time to adapt... I agree with everything you say EXCEPT how fast climatization happens, I have witnessed after only ONE generation, ridiculous climatization to my area...
 

TheLastWood

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I also don't mean to downplay the significance and adaptability of cannabis either.

Even in an indoor garden, clones from a mother plant will grow better than there mother. And that is technically the same plant. So in a single lifetime they are even adapting, I don't think its as extreme as outdoor changes would be. Since in 24 hrs outside there is more temp and rh change than ever happens indoors.
 

karmas a bitch

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and I have another point to make....

many of you are NOT outdoor growers... you don't realize how big of a difference climatization makes on the genetics of the plant... if you grow one plant one year and it doesn't finish but you pollinated it, grow those seeds next year, I guarantee you'll find a phenotype that finishes a little faster, repeat the process until you have what you're looking for.

how the fuck do you think this plant evolved to even deal with light cycles in the first place? your whole arrogance towards this makes me really question your true knowledge about cannabis as a plant and it's evolution....

I mean indoors, a plant doesn't really have the opprotunity to climatize, so if you tried to prove this to yourself from indoor breeding I'm afriad your knowledge is not sufficient enough to make any claims about what climatization can and cannot do. I don't mean to be mean here but all I was doing was looking for sativas to carry out a project, and you come in here with almost a troll-like attitude saying it isn't possible, when you don't even know for fucking sure. so for that, I say fuck off.
if the the plant didnt finish but you pollinated it? well that sounds good except for if the plant didnt finish the seeds wouldnt either. your attitude is ridiculous.you ask a question and then get all salty when someone offeres their advice and opinion?
 

poplars

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if the the plant didnt finish but you pollinated it? well that sounds good except for if the plant didnt finish the seeds wouldnt either. your attitude is ridiculous.you ask a question and then get all salty when someone offeres their advice and opinion?
lol you're being ridiculous actually, do your research... you can pollinate one branch when the first white preflowers come out (in the first 3 weeks of flowering), even if the plant doesn't finish those seeds will....
 

poplars

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I also don't mean to downplay the significance and adaptability of cannabis either.

Even in an indoor garden, clones from a mother plant will grow better than there mother. And that is technically the same plant. So in a single lifetime they are even adapting, I don't think its as extreme as outdoor changes would be. Since in 24 hrs outside there is more temp and rh change than ever happens indoors.
ok cool man im sorry for being short with you. before I get my morning joint sparked up I can b e a bit sparky...
 

TheLastWood

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There are a handful of great looking pure sativas, but no I don't have any experience with them.

Mandala sells Mango Jamal and there is a smoke report on riu somewhere. Supposed to be 100% sativa and mandala works with pretty much only landraces.
 

poplars

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There are a handful of great looking pure sativas, but no I don't have any experience with them.

Mandala sells Mango Jamal and there is a smoke report on riu somewhere. Supposed to be 100% sativa and mandala works with pretty much only landraces.
I mean I wanna get those sativas that have straight up hallucinogenic effects mostly, I'm hella interested in that... I also need a wirey sativa because I find myself demotivated during the day from all these indica crosses... I love smoking weed all day but man I need a balance ya know...
 

TheLastWood

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Yeah I love my jack herer man. Really gives me a great up high I can go to work on.

But when I'm tired I can fall asleep if I smoke a lot of it lol.

Not a pure sativa tho.
 

karmas a bitch

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thats never happened for me. i always have to let my plants go longer when doing a seed run. but hey if it works for you who am i to say?i agree with the suggestion of nevilles haze by mr. nice sounds like what your looking for to me. or any african strain that i have grown seems to have that racy trippy kind of buzz
 

poplars

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thats never happened for me. i always have to let my plants go longer when doing a seed run. but hey if it works for you who am i to say?i agree with the suggestion of nevilles haze by mr. nice sounds like what your looking for to me. or any african strain that i have grown seems to have that racy trippy kind of buzz
hmm someone mentioned afropip or some site earlier, landrace african sativas... I think I may take the plunge on one or two of them.... not sure which one yet... they had malawi gold, durban poison, and 2 others.... not bad prices either....

Yeah I love my jack herer man. Really gives me a great up high I can go to work on.

But when I'm tired I can fall asleep if I smoke a lot of it lol.

Not a pure sativa tho.
yeah sativa hybrids are nice but man I really need something to wire me up... I got motivation issues ;)
 
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