Where Are The Pure Sativa Strains At?!
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Unnk
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the second those seeds are even conceived ill be all over the site waiting for the day their released
every sativa queen i can get in the garden is a pluss
beans davis
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Babydro landrace sativas from Oaxaca & Guerrero are still there.Red,green & gold.You need to know someone down there to get them.No seedbank has them.
Farmers in Mexico are growing hybrids for cartels now .They have no choice.I see more & more hybrids each year.
Were you looking for these sativas?
dababydroman
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they dont just grow the hybrids, trust me. they still grow plenty of the pure shit as well.
and no im not looking for them. i have them.
and no im not looking for them. i have them.
beans davis
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You are 100% correct my friend,i have them as well a red haired Oaxacan a Guerreran gold and a green and some kind of hybrid.
I grew up by the Mexican border and have friends in southern Mex.
These strains have very long flower take till middle or end of December outdoors in Tex.
The red Oaxacan being the best the Acapulco gold next and the green is very nice too.
No they don't just grow the hybrids but they are leaning in that direction,i see 100s of lbs each year from Mex and more and more are hybrids.
I've been running the Mex border for 35yrs we use to have an import export buisness in Miguel Aleman.
Things have changed.
God I wish Marijuana was legal all over the world. It makes me sad that some strains are lost forever or not cared for properly. Id love to see some of those Mexican sativas in flower. I would think there would be more national pride in taking care of your homeland's treasures. Hey beans, do you regularly grow those old school Sativas or are they for special occasions and crosses only?
beans davis
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I dont grow them b/c of the stretch and flower times,I thru away about 30 of these seeds 6 months ago.
I talked to my friend in Mex and he's suppose to get me some seeds from a purple sativa from the state of Durango grown near the city of Torreon.
I've never fooled with Mex weed grown this far north.
IT's supose to be good.
Its funny how far strains travelled before the internet. I know you used to have to know soneone or work in the biz to get primo shit but chance and bud love have let me smoke some Colombian Red, some Jamaican stuff that smelled and tasted like Pineapples and had me laughingall night.I was up in the northeast in my early smoking days and thanks to cool people I got to taste that nice stuff.
One of the cleanest sativa highs ever for me at least was dj short's F13. In one to two words--- uplifting/energizing.
A strain that I don't think's been mentioned yet but deserves some notice is Sensi Seeds Durban, wooh better than espresso in the morning!
You know who doesn't get enough love? Gage Green. Especially their Grape Stomper.
Although most of their strains are indica they do have a sativa strain called Candy Drop.
Am from africa , and most plants here gives u a speedy high my fav is DP , CONGO AND Malawi !
hazey grapes
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i've got FOUR holy smokes seeds' malawi golds sunbathing! cross your fingers for me. i hope it's the real deal! i KNOW already that despite it's description for being indoor bred, eldorado likes to stretch. that's my other IBL, but i've got a lot of theoretically sativa doms in their too and am gonna SCROG it all.
haze skunk might not be an IBL, but it sure smokes like one to me. it's trippier than kali mist big time and less speedy if not as trippy as columbian gold. i'm hoping that my thai skunks are in the same ballpark and would really be happy if they either tasted better or were trippier. i think the haze skunk at least was bred with something close to a cheese pheno.
i also hope that jack's cleaner acts like a trippy sativa as per it's description. at 9 weeks flowering time with a lemony flavor, i think that will become my workhorse replacing haze skunk.
i just can't wait to get on to the sampling phase! oh... both of my mulawi gold freebies and one of my mozambique poison freebies that i got along with 2 extra malawi golds got wiped out by drying out or mold (i gotta get another humidity dome and quit cramming 30 or so pellets in one at a time & give everything more buffer to start) but i stil have 1 mozambique regular i'm hoping has a vagina.
i'll let y'all know if holy smokes is HOLY SHIT! asap
asia too has some of the most bitchin' sativas between highland thai, vietnamese blackseed, cambodian and even burmese. it's just that IBLs are only sought by the small minority of us growers who don't give a flying fuck about how fast & much a strain yields and who only want the best buzz possible. even then, many, like me, are willing to settle for sativa dominants for practicality sake.
some day, i think i want to test drive gage green's columbian gold. at up to 17 weeks, that sounds like the real deal and i'd put real gold up against anything the entire eurasian continent has to throw down. i haven't had any other IBLs than gold, but love that lighter than air feeling buzz it gave that NOTHING i've smoked since including some prime gear has offered no matter how potent or trippy.
it's looking like all is not lost yet. besides gage green's gold (isn't that called alliteration?), there's an auction site that might have already been mentioned here that has had real panama red as well as a sick strain called black haze, both of which are in the 17 week range. add the "his shit's for real!" feedback i've seen for ace seeds' gear, and there's reason to hope that there's still time to preserve the titans.
first up for me though is getting a headstash. if my malawi gold, mozambique poison and eldorado all deliver, so much the better, but when i have surplus... i wanna upgrade to highland thai, columbian gold, black haze, panama red, or cambodian. i'll give cheap mekong haze a 2nd chance now that i have a humidity dome as i don't think sativas like the cold much and have seen much better sprouting rates now that i have one.
haze skunk might not be an IBL, but it sure smokes like one to me. it's trippier than kali mist big time and less speedy if not as trippy as columbian gold. i'm hoping that my thai skunks are in the same ballpark and would really be happy if they either tasted better or were trippier. i think the haze skunk at least was bred with something close to a cheese pheno.
i also hope that jack's cleaner acts like a trippy sativa as per it's description. at 9 weeks flowering time with a lemony flavor, i think that will become my workhorse replacing haze skunk.
i just can't wait to get on to the sampling phase! oh... both of my mulawi gold freebies and one of my mozambique poison freebies that i got along with 2 extra malawi golds got wiped out by drying out or mold (i gotta get another humidity dome and quit cramming 30 or so pellets in one at a time & give everything more buffer to start) but i stil have 1 mozambique regular i'm hoping has a vagina.
i'll let y'all know if holy smokes is HOLY SHIT! asap
asia too has some of the most bitchin' sativas between highland thai, vietnamese blackseed, cambodian and even burmese. it's just that IBLs are only sought by the small minority of us growers who don't give a flying fuck about how fast & much a strain yields and who only want the best buzz possible. even then, many, like me, are willing to settle for sativa dominants for practicality sake.
some day, i think i want to test drive gage green's columbian gold. at up to 17 weeks, that sounds like the real deal and i'd put real gold up against anything the entire eurasian continent has to throw down. i haven't had any other IBLs than gold, but love that lighter than air feeling buzz it gave that NOTHING i've smoked since including some prime gear has offered no matter how potent or trippy.
it's looking like all is not lost yet. besides gage green's gold (isn't that called alliteration?), there's an auction site that might have already been mentioned here that has had real panama red as well as a sick strain called black haze, both of which are in the 17 week range. add the "his shit's for real!" feedback i've seen for ace seeds' gear, and there's reason to hope that there's still time to preserve the titans.
first up for me though is getting a headstash. if my malawi gold, mozambique poison and eldorado all deliver, so much the better, but when i have surplus... i wanna upgrade to highland thai, columbian gold, black haze, panama red, or cambodian. i'll give cheap mekong haze a 2nd chance now that i have a humidity dome as i don't think sativas like the cold much and have seen much better sprouting rates now that i have one.
hazey grapes
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i got yer sativas right here!
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Wow, man, considering you just started those a few nights ago, thats down right amazing. I mean not as amazing as how fast you were able to germ/plant/sprout, but still amazing.
I think you are the only person in history of the world who was able to germ/plant/sprout seeds in 1.5 hours. And now you have a good 1-2 weeks worth of growth on some of those babies in like 2 days. Absolutely unbelievable (it really is).
Here is a quote from our friend Hazey from 1 year ago about his ONLY ever attempted grow....
"yes, i have never grown bud before this year and have wasted literally hundreds of beans (possibly even over 1,000 including dead bagseed) but in that time, i've also experienced a wide range of freshly grown low potency leaf with a buzz i'll take over the greedy fucks & evil corporate sponsored indicrap on the streets every time any day. i lived in the moment in spite myself. the impossible to obtain on the streets non couchlocking high i've gotten is equally impossible to resist DESPITE the FACT that hallucinogens are non-addictive. (shit! fuck! you can't rope your customers into addiction and lethargy on hallucinogens!) LOL
i ALMOST pulled it off on my 1st grow as i planned on cloning my 3 8 miles high & 1 urban poisoin gal whose 1st buds i sampled not knowing that buds = nodes and you need nodes to grow cuttings (i've forgotten more about growing than most people probably know, literally having re-read my 3 x 1980s grow guides several times each and my MJ botany book 2-3 times too.)
i might piss everyone else off by not meeting their expectations of a big harvest, but i have no fucking regrets whatsoever. all the time i was undermining my own self (other than sativas, i have no impulse control problems, honest) i was actually getting high which is virtrually impossible to do on the streets. if i get run over by a bus tomorrow, then the haze skunk i've mowed down to a banzai will not have gone to waste. tomorrow doesn't exist where sativas & i are concerned. NOTHING and i mean NOTHING in life gives me that much pleasure or ever will.
now i'm off to snip some more bottom bud, ingrown leaf & tops to make more colas or if my haze skunks last "tops" aren't perking up, i'll put that one out of it's misery and i will get another 3-4 hours or more of "shit! life CAN be fucking wonderful!""
"i just finished my haze skunk gal last night. when she got about 2 1/2 feet tall, i just started mowing her down from the top to create a level top to encourage flowering and by the time i got down to the bottom buds, was smoking the most potent bud yet. "
That came after 5 years of claimed grows, he finally admitted the truth. Even then only ONE made it to flowering that he cut down and smoked up 3 weeks old. He actually talks about smoking LOW POTENCY LEAF. Which is why he only had one make it to flowering, he cut them down in veg and smoked the leaves.
Keep in mind this is the same grow he claims to have "crossed" where all of his A11 x C99 seeds came from.
What a complete liar.
I could show you quotes like this ALL day long. Lie after lie, contradiction after contradiction. I would link you to it but its from another grow site.
This is a classic case of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_hypoxia
Its also why, when he actually does smoke a real bud, he freaks out and doesnt like it. He doesnt even know that what he likes isnt "high" and when he gets "high" he thinks its wrong.
I especially like this reply from skunkpatronus...
This is the funniest pile of shit I ever read. Pot ADHD, can't let it flower, smokes it before it's budding.....
And this is the same guy that writes grow reports and tells others what to do and why? Oh my.
Moral to the story, Hazey Grapes was promptly banned. This is the very last grow site on the web who hasnt banned him.
poplars
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make sure you keep your males and make seeds.
shrigpiece
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Wow man don't know what to make of that, hes either full of shit or you have a obsession with hazy grapes
hazey grapes
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obsession... followed me here from another FORUM at the beck and call of one of this one's troll butt buddy clubbers and hangs on to my every word like glen close in heat. they're particularly obsessed with my being unimpressed with barney's creeper stone cat piss on grapes and flowers early pheno LSD or the fact that i named it in a thread about "indoor sativas" (not meaning IBLs, but strains that get you high like sativas) because although it wasn't trippy as described, it had some degree of psychoactivity in it's buzz with the lead eye high it started out with. then, they go around spreading the LIE that i tell everyone it's an IBL when i explained what i meant in my very next reply in the original thread (i have it bookmarked in case they try to repeat that lie like a broken record) as well as make false claims that my pictures are stolen despite not being able to provide the high res originals i keep when i DO take a picture which i don't really care to fucking do actually because outside of here where people actually DO give smoke reports, the ONLY fucking thing i give a shit about. the ONLY reason i'm taking pics now, and consistently using my "columbian gold honoring backdrop" is for "STFU and get a life loser" ammo.
i also have a huge attitude about how greedy fucks only grow indicrap EVERYWHERE and step on anyone's neck that tries to get me to go with the program so i rub people who SHOULD have a guilt complex about how they take excessive money for schwag the wrong way.
i personally don't give a fuck who likes me and who doesn't. they aren't doing jack shit to get me high, so they have nothing to say worth hearing.
i take that back... everyone sharing their experiences with different strains that actually get you high as i expect many of the ones i'm testing in my quest for the closest thing to an authentic columbian gold buzz as possible (or not for that matter steering me away from stony strains like jilly bean that i have no interest in really) help a lot just as i hope to help those seeking an alternative to the greed some defend as territory find stuff like haze skunk or delicious grapey good super cali haze getting the actual lowdown on which ain't easy, even when you beg some fool obsessed with taking pics and notes on nutrient levels and temps by the minute but that's too stupid to be able to pull an accurate smoke report out of their ass to save their lives and that think "this shit is dank!" actually means something more than "this is some stony bullshit you don't ever want to grow"
i might have an attitude, and i repeat info from things i've read and SOURCE in my replies, or copy and paste big chunks of info in different threads so i don't have to keep tyoing it over and over again, but i don't lie. if i say my LSD plant was NOT the trippy sativa sounding plant described but that it smokes more like skunk #1 with a stronger KO stone, you can take that as a fact or fuck off and mute me and suck troll dick. LOL
i don't hesitate to mute instigating losers myself. i think that really iggies iggy too. they didn't get enough attention growing up.
i also have a huge attitude about how greedy fucks only grow indicrap EVERYWHERE and step on anyone's neck that tries to get me to go with the program so i rub people who SHOULD have a guilt complex about how they take excessive money for schwag the wrong way.
i personally don't give a fuck who likes me and who doesn't. they aren't doing jack shit to get me high, so they have nothing to say worth hearing.
i take that back... everyone sharing their experiences with different strains that actually get you high as i expect many of the ones i'm testing in my quest for the closest thing to an authentic columbian gold buzz as possible (or not for that matter steering me away from stony strains like jilly bean that i have no interest in really) help a lot just as i hope to help those seeking an alternative to the greed some defend as territory find stuff like haze skunk or delicious grapey good super cali haze getting the actual lowdown on which ain't easy, even when you beg some fool obsessed with taking pics and notes on nutrient levels and temps by the minute but that's too stupid to be able to pull an accurate smoke report out of their ass to save their lives and that think "this shit is dank!" actually means something more than "this is some stony bullshit you don't ever want to grow"
i might have an attitude, and i repeat info from things i've read and SOURCE in my replies, or copy and paste big chunks of info in different threads so i don't have to keep tyoing it over and over again, but i don't lie. if i say my LSD plant was NOT the trippy sativa sounding plant described but that it smokes more like skunk #1 with a stronger KO stone, you can take that as a fact or fuck off and mute me and suck troll dick. LOL
i don't hesitate to mute instigating losers myself. i think that really iggies iggy too. they didn't get enough attention growing up.
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