which company white widow is better?

From what I read from shanti arjan just had the coffeshop or whatever. Neville and shanti were breeders and greenhouse was their outlet. That's why when he decided to leave arjan didn't get shit cuz if anything I think that arjan was just paying them to be the only vendor of their stock and arjan never had anyhing to do with the breeding.

I'm not trying to argue with you or anything just trying to clear things up. I just read the post the other day so it's still prett clear. Also, these aren't direct quotes this is my interpretation of the events so if I'm wrong I apologize.

nah dude, dont worry, im not trying to argue! what post was it? id love to read it?

arjan is not and was never a breeder. he had shani and neville, now he got franco. he let shanti and neville go or they left, but he owned the strain name and all their strain names. so he profits offa that .. fucked up huh ?

well if you ask me, if another breeder created a white widow out of hes own genetics lets call it ww1 and you compare it side by side from the original white widow which is now called black widow, and lets say that the knock-off white widow are stronger than the original black widow, i would still say that you cant compare both of it in the category of whos the stronger white widow...coz basically you are comparing 2 different genetic strains.

and if you really want to get the original and tell ur friends that u smoked and grown the old school original white widow, then go get your beans from mr nice, but if you dont care, fuck, just get any white widow you want...but personally i would only grow mr nice white widow or ill just get another legend strain from another breeder other than get a fake white widow. but thats just me bro...were just here to feed you information.

if joey weed has an f2 white widow at hempdepot then you cant go wrong with it...but you can do the math. mr nice black widow 18 seeds for $92.75 but always out of stock...a huge demand for the original. hempdepot white widow 10 seeds going for $57. there roughly the same price...so since itl be hard for you to get the black widow which is always out of stock...then your last bet would be hempdepot to get joey weeds gear white widow.

all white widow should be indian x brazilian regardless. black widow is white widow. all others are knockoffs.. like fake gucci, look nice but not as good. shanti is a helluva breeder, and arjan has alot of his stolen strain names.. along with stealing names from other people as well. joey weeds WW is shantis black widow.

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

all white widow should be indian x brazilian regardless. black widow is white widow. all others are knockoffs.. like fake gucci, look nice but not as good. shanti is a helluva breeder, and arjan has alot of his stolen strain names.. along with stealing names from other people as well. joey weeds WW is shantis black widow.

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yeah bro...thats just reality peeps so if you guys still insist in getting white widow from green house, nirvana or other breeders. remember people who knows, knows you aint got the original. but heck throw that money for a different strains instead. doesnt matter if the plant gets the same lineage from a different breeder as long as it has a different name.

the original seed form is there, we are already fortunate enough to have the real deal in seed form. the breeder himself wants to share it, so theres no point in getting fake. take advantage of it. or would anybody care to look for a clone only white widow?

what do yall think about kushberry & seedmans WW since mr nice seeds is alittle out of budget. good to know that he made WW and white rhino tho cuz when i can i will get those or world of seeds cronic haze & kushberry

kushberry is nice.. seedsman ww is very nice..

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

Mr nice is the original ww shant renamed it black widow cuz of all the fakes. seedsman is next best then ghs

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The highest quality White Widow you will find after Shantibaba's original comes from De Sjamaan. Seedsman Seeds knockoff is pretty good but it is not second best and not even an all that close third best. It is good smoke and for the price it is a decent value, but it is not up there with De Sjamaan's and certainly not trailing close behind Shantibaba's Black Widow.

IloveGanjaherbmaryjane420 said:

what do yall think about kushberry & seedmans WW since mr nice seeds is alittle out of budget. good to know that he made WW and white rhino tho cuz when i can i will get those or world of seeds cronic haze & kushberry

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u do know that mr nice sells 18 seeds for $97+ and thats relatively cheap compare to other strains, thats roughly about $5.5 for a single seed. and were talking quality genetics...so id invest if i were you if you are really planning to grow/breed/pollinate white widow...shit im tired of always placing black for every white widow i wrote.

its not relatively cheap. at all. and i dont like fishing threw males and females. & i have no intention on breeding & pollinateing anything. & for that 100$ price ill get two packs of 2 differnt strains plus a bunch of differnt strains for free =)

so anyone wana actually answer the question i asked?

what do yall think about kushberry & seedmans WW since mr nice seeds is alittle out of budget. good to know that he made WW and white rhino tho cuz when i can i will get those or world of seeds cronic haze & kushberry

why not just get some fire ass fems from the pick n mix section?
kush berry is good tho.

ya mean a bunch of differnt ones.... well i was thinkin that... but then again i figure if i jus buy 2 packs ill have a bunch of two strain n then each free one is a differnt strain so its amost the same thing but i am gona check out the pick n mixes jus looking or some one hitters with each seed

but u realize that when u learn to clone, all u need is one of each.. and its easy. i always order pick n mix. i only get a pack if i need a male.

yeah but to clone u generally need another grow box / couple CFLs right?? rooting solution and rockwool? or watever those lil rooting cubes... i have most of that except alil box n cfls... cuz i mean if plants are already flowering... you cant put ur clones in there if they need to grow in veg first, right?

or shud clones be taken early on in veg, so when they root, they can veg with the rest of them?

IloveGanjaherbmaryjane420 said:

yeah but to clone u generally need another grow box / couple CFLs right?? rooting solution and rockwool? or watever those lil rooting cubes... i have most of that except alil box n cfls... cuz i mean if plants are already flowering... you cant put ur clones in there if they need to grow in veg first, right?

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u can take clone whenever u have excess stem-age.. u would need a small box and some floro or cfl.. but not too much unless u plan on doin a full veg. i used dixie cups after they root so it doesnt take much space. cloning is simple and can be done with next to nothing.

im telling ya, mr nice or female seeds for white widow. if thats too pricey then white label also does a decent ww

IloveGanjaherbmaryjane420 said:

its not relatively cheap. at all. and i dont like fishing threw males and females. & i have no intention on breeding & pollinateing anything. & for that 100$ price ill get two packs of 2 differnt strains plus a bunch of differnt strains for free =)

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At the rate of females to males I normally get from regular beans there would be a very, very good chance you would get not only as many females but likely more females from 18 regular beans than you would from two 5-packs of feminized beans plus no beans that run roughly $50.00 per pack will come anywhere close to being as good as Shantibaba's Black Widow. Plus if you are talking about Attitude's free beans, they go by amount spent, not numbers of packs purchased, so if you spend about the same amount either way you will receive the same number of free beans.

So you could easily end up with as many, or more, females from one pack of Black Widow, have something to smoke that will be WAY BETTER than the roughly $50.00 price range genetics and likely the same number of free beans.

You said; "i dont like fishing threw males and females." If you purchase cheap-ass feminized beans you won't have to fish through males and females. Instead you will likely find yourself fishing through females and hermis to keep any females from getting pollinated with hermi pollen.


But if having two packs of far lesser quality feminized genetics with an increased chance for hermis is a better deal too you, then by all means, go for it.