Which PH chart is the correct one?

ComfortCreator said:
Renfro grows hydro, correct?

He has a thread about measuring the mediums ph. In fact, he posted in this thread. He suggested what I said.

You seem to believe you are the only person who knows soil and hydro are different. Could it be possible you are just preaching to the choir?

Did you actually post that you watered with a ph of 12 and 10....?

Has anybody ever posted that? Are you really supervising the rest of us and advising that in soil a ph of 10 or 12 for watering is advisable? Something you would dare post while criticising others?

Im hoping you are really high, or not high at all, hopefully there is some explanation for this.
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This was not evilscotsmans comment?
 
ComfortCreator said:
Renfro grows hydro, correct?

He has a thread about measuring the mediums ph. In fact, he posted in this thread. He suggested what I said.

You seem to believe you are the only person who knows soil and hydro are different. Could it be possible you are just preaching to the choir?

Did you actually post that you watered with a ph of 12 and 10....?

Has anybody ever posted that? Are you really supervising the rest of us and advising that in soil a ph of 10 or 12 for watering is advisable? Something you would dare post while criticising others?

Im hoping you are really high, or not high at all, hopefully there is some explanation for this.
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I think that was me bro about the radical ph adjustments. It does work, I’ve done it on hundreds of plants, but I’m not advising anything. Just sharing my experiments with it.
 
I got to admit that I felt alot less confused after @EvilScotsm@n commenting. I would also say that I appreciate all the info here and time u all spent trying to guide me.

I did learn some new rhings from ur thread @Renfro, though I am confused if this applies to my hydro/coco/hempy grow?
 
Destroyer of chairs said:
Atami Ata series.
Ph in 5.5
Ec in 0.85

Runoff PH 6.1-6.2
Runoff EC 0.65
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Something is weird there. If it's not too pricey, do what EvilScotsm@n said and feed more. Feed until runoff is the same as your nutemix.
The alternative is to flush with pure water, the point is to get whatever is raising your ph out of there.

This helps; feed/flush with like 1L at the time, let sit 5 minutes in between. This is to let the salts dissolve into the water(in coco, nutes are literally inside the fibers, takes a little time to get these out). Repeat this.
Feel free to massage pot in between as well, to get movement in the rootzone and make sure water gets in contact with everything in there. Probably not needed, but I certainly like to do this.
Good luck brother ✌


For what it's worth, I agree with most if not everything EvilScotsm@n has said. Hydro is easy, but way different than soil. Active Ph adjustment is necessary if you don't know your grow well.
 
ComfortCreator said:
Renfro grows hydro, correct?

He has a thread about measuring the mediums ph. In fact, he posted in this thread. He suggested what I said.

You seem to believe you are the only person who knows soil and hydro are different. Could it be possible you are just preaching to the choir?

Did you actually post that you watered with a ph of 12 and 10....?

Has anybody ever posted that? Are you really supervising the rest of us and advising that in soil a ph of 10 or 12 for watering is advisable? Something you would dare post while criticising others?

Im hoping you are really high, or not high at all, hopefully there is some explanation for this.
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And you've just proved my point again.
Wasn't me that mentioned feeding soil ph 10-12. I'd never tell someone how to ph soil because I'm a hydro grower so I don't know how to do it.
I've no idea if Renfrew grows in hydro but you told op to check his " how to ph soil" thread.
Not me that's confused mate.
 
Enanthate said:
Something is weird there. If it's not too pricey, do what EvilScotsm@n said and feed more. Feed until runoff is the same as your nutemix.
The alternative is to flush with pure water, the point is to get whatever is raising your ph out of there.

This helps; feed/flush with like 1L at the time, let sit 5 minutes in between. This is to let the salts dissolve into the water(in coco, nutes are literally inside the fibers, takes a little time to get these out). Repeat this.
Feel free to massage pot in between as well, to get movement in the rootzone and make sure water gets in contact with everything in there. Probably not needed, but I certainly like to do this.
Good luck brother ✌


For what it's worth, I agree with most if not everything EvilScotsm@n has said. Hydro is easy, but way different than soil. Active Ph adjustment is necessary if you don't know your grow well.
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Ahh.. finally lol. :)
 
EvilScotsm@n said:
Ahh.. finally lol. :)
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So THIS is all you were after ? someone to agree with you ? we AGREE with you on most everything your telling the guy. We also understand the difference in hydro and soil. For the record, its pretty much the same. One holds water an one does not.
Just because someone doesnt say "He is right" does not mean they do not agree with you. We gave solid advice for any grower.
(He mentions , he read the renfro thread , so he learned a lot from a guy you said would kill his plants, So you keep babysitting his grow and some will help put fat on his head also)
Again , i AM NOT saying your wrong about anything.......
 
getogrow said:
So THIS is all you were after ? someone to agree with you ? we AGREE with you on most everything your telling the guy. We also understand the difference in hydro and soil. For the record, its pretty much the same. One holds water an one does not.
Just because someone doesnt say "He is right" does not mean they do not agree with you. We gave solid advice for any grower.
(He mentions , he read the renfro thread , so he learned a lot from a guy you said would kill his plants, So you keep babysitting his grow and some will help put fat on his head also)
Again , i AM NOT saying your wrong about anything.......
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Not here for an argument mate.
I just like helping new guys overcome all the misinformation whilst keeping myself out of mischief in the political sections.

Someone pulled the sock puppets out for me when I started and told me to do the same for others.
It was a valuable lesson.
If we just look out for each other and keep the other guys best interests in mind.
The world is a better place and we're all better off.
We're all here for the same reasons mate.
Learn and share.

I'd fucked my first hydro grow, tox'd and stunted my 2 autos. At a month old they were only 2 nodes tall.
With a little bit of the right advice I still got 11oz from a 20litre NFT table.

Everyone I responded to mentioned "soil" in the advice given and the guy was directed to renfrews "soil ph thread "

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
No disrespect mate. I'm new here and I'm certainly not trying to make enemies.
That's the last thing I want but even mentioning soil when advising a hydro grower means there's an overwhelming chance the advice is wrong.

The way to treat coco to full potential will kill a soil plant in a week.
I'd never tell a soil grower to check out hydro information to fix their problems.
Can I please ask why you think I'm so off track for pointing out to the OP what the difference is between the 2 media and why it's so important.
 
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EvilScotsm@n said:
Can I ask why you think I'm so off track for pointing out to the OP what the difference is between the 2 media and why it's so important.
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Because you were not pointing out anything to the op. You quoted our posts and simply said "hes in hydro" ........then you went on to say that we would probably kill his plants if he listened to us..... THAT is the only issue at hand. Our advice was solid and yours is solid too except the part abouit listening to a certain set of folks.
Coco's ph needs to be tested just like a dirt guy would test his. Coco retains moisture and food both so its not quite hydro. Its soiless medium. (which is very close to hydro....im not arguing that)

simple mix up , no big deal. :joint:
 
getogrow said:
Because you were not pointing out anything to the op. You quoted our posts and simply said "hes in hydro" ........then you went on to say that we would probably kill his plants if he listened to us..... THAT is the only issue at hand. Our advice was solid and yours is solid too except the part abouit listening to a certain set of folks.
Coco's ph needs to be tested just like a dirt guy would test his. Coco retains moisture and food both so its not quite hydro. Its soiless medium. (which is very close to hydro....im not arguing that)

simple mix up , no big deal. :joint:
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To be fair I did not realise that many of the tips didn't apply to me before he pointed out that it were soil tips. Guess I'm either dumb or just too much of a newb on the topic.

Destroyer of chairs said:
I'm just trying to get my head wrapped around all of this as good as I can. Good correct info is my quest :)
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On this note, getting alot of tips about growing in soil is not making things less overwhelming. The info that applies to coco/hydro as well is sure good to know, but all else is really just confusing me even more when I don't recognise that it doesn't apply to my medium. So I do see the point in doing what were done and if that is policing my thread I sure do welcome it :)
 
Just to clear things up for you. You are in coco .... Thats what you research. Coco. Its kinda like hydro ....its kinda like dirt.....its neither. ALL the info applies directly to your grow or we would not have posted it. I recommend whats right for YOUR grow , not mine or anyone elses. Your thread , your grow. Either way , good luck!
 
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