White Widow + Trainwreck

I know everyone hates this question but i would just like to know how much i should expect to yield if i start flowering these plants right now. This is my 3rd attempt and i've had some pretty lame results in the past so I just want to make sure that I'm going to get something out of these. I'm aiming for 2 ounces per plant, so what do you guys think, should I keep vegging or can I start flowering?
The first 2 pics are the WW and the second 2 are the TW.

i have 12/12 small plants like that and have only got a 1/4-1/2 oz dry..... im vegging mine now 2-3 months cloning and switching them, @ 12"-14" to get 28-48grams dry using a 150w hps and 3 42w cfls. GOOD LUCK, prob not gonna happen.


and you have a N deficiency now, all your fan leafs are gonna fall off, also reducing weight

shit, really? I definitely wasn't expecting that. oh well, i'll keep vegging, i don't really care how long it takes as long as i get lots of good weed lol. and for the N deficiency, i'll be watering them tomorrow with some bat guano.

Don't assume that the longer that you veg a plant the bigger the yeiled,If the area that you are flowering in is small then flower them now they will recive maxamim light and you should get a min of a ounce but grow more small instead of one large these recive more light where has a large plant harf of it is only good for butter and hash,Because no light can penatrate.

i have lots of room for these plants, so that is not an issue. I need to yield at least 2 ounces off of each of these plants so how much longer do you think i should be vegging for?

2 OZ in soil? You had better keep on vegging, let them mature and develop those side branches before flowering. You need big solid plants and good lighting/feed regime to hit that mark in soil.

alright soo just to recap, i want to yield about 4-5 ounces from all these plants, so should i start flowering now? or do they require more veg time?

alright, just to recap, i want to yield 4-5 ounces from all these plants, should i start flowering now, or do they require more veg time? the two in each corner are stragglers and im not really expecting much yield from them, mainly just the middle 3. I also have a sprout that i'm gonna try 12/12 from seed with, hopefully i can get a quarter out of it or something lol.

Your goal is a long shot should you flower now. Veg longer. While vegging, do some LSTing/topping and then lollipopping so you can focus all the bud growth on the main colas that result. This way all of your bud sites should be relatively uniform in density, quality, and amount. Even then, 2 oz per plant is going to be a bit of a stretch. Get good flower lighting as well. Best of luck.

The first photo, it appears you possibly topped your WW? Also, your vegging with a HPS? Looks like it, you'd have much better results with a MH. Compare to mine to yours. Large one Hash Plant (30 days old) smaller is White Widow Max (19 days old)

Kingb420 said:

i have 12/12 small plants like that and have only got a 1/4-1/2 oz dry..... im vegging mine now 2-3 months cloning and switching them, @ 12"-14" to get 28-48grams dry using a 150w hps and 3 42w cfls. GOOD LUCK, prob not gonna happen.


and you have a N deficiency now, all your fan leafs are gonna fall off, also reducing weight

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I don't know about that? I'd say heat stressed. The leaves are curling upward. (N) Deficiency signs show first in older leaves. Leaves are a uniform yellow or light green; leaves die & drop; growth is slow. Leaf margins are not curled-up noticeably..

There's no way that's 19 days from seed. It takes at least a week to germinate and pop through the soil. Then another week of being a seedling. that leaves you with like 5 days of actual veg time, bull fucking shit. Even if you counted 19 days after it popped out of the soil i still wouldn't believe you, a mh isn't that much better than a hps. Maybe 19 days from clone?
And my plants are all perfectly healthy, the one's fan leaves have always looked like that, they're still very dark green and healthy looking, and all the new growth on it is looking great. No deficiencies and definitely no heat stress.
I though it would be simple for someone with experience to ballpark an answer for me, but all i've got is someone saying "look at how much better looking my plants are". I was looking for a "you should probly veg another week or 2" or a "yeah you could pull it off with those" or a "you'd probly only yield about _____ with those"..... so if someone has an answer that sounds something like that, i'd love to hear it!

grind said:

There's no way that's 19 days from seed. It takes at least a week to germinate and pop through the soil. Then another week of being a seedling. that leaves you with like 5 days of actual veg time, bull fucking shit. Even if you counted 19 days after it popped out of the soil i still wouldn't believe you, a mh isn't that much better than a hps. Maybe 19 days from clone?
And my plants are all perfectly healthy, the one's fan leaves have always looked like that, they're still very dark green and healthy looking, and all the new growth on it is looking great. No deficiencies and definitely no heat stress.
I though it would be simple for someone with experience to ballpark an answer for me, but all i've got is someone saying "look at how much better looking my plants are". I was looking for a "you should probably veg another week or 2" or a "yeah you could pull it off with those" or a "you'd probably only yield about _____ with those"..... so if someone has an answer that sounds something like that, i'd love to hear it!

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I transplanted it into soil from seedling may 11th. The photo uploaded is white widow max, the photo of the smaller plant I uploaded a couple posts ago. The second photo is my hash plant which is the larger of the 2 in the first photo and it was taken the same day may 11th. So to answer your question, sorry for the confusion, yes at this point you need to veg for several more weeks at that rate of growth. Maybe consider nutrients, and in my professional opinion, your yield will suck balls. Good day.

Actually now I think about it, check my journal. PROOF mother fucker

Ok, there is no way you would get 2 oz's per plant right now. There is also no way to tell you the amount of time veggin for that to happen as there are too many variables. People will help but don't get defensive so quickly and call bullshit on others who are helping. I would say you need another month minimum to start to get close to what yhou want but that is a guess. Sorry can't help more but they definately will need more veg time to get that much. Good luck

ok, to 303, you're a fucking idiot, please stop replying to my thread, you're not lending any helpful information. Obviously a MH would be better for veg and I'm using all organic nutrients - kelp meal, worm castings and bat guano, I think i have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing. My other grows have just been really small and done with CFLs so this is my first bigger grow i guess. The thing is I've flowered a plant smaller than this and got a half ounce from it with 150w of CFLs so that's why I thought I would be able to flower now. And it was a half ounce of the fluffiest bud ever because of the CFLs so I figured if all those buds were really dense it would be about 3 times the weight. But like i've stated, i'm still new and so i just wanted to double check with people who are more experienced before actually doing anything.
Thanks tman for the info, but i'm not exactly looking for 2 ounces per plant, I'm only looking for 4-5 ounces between all 5 plants. The majority of this i'm expecting from the middle three plants, so this is what i would expect - 1 ounce from each trainwreck, 1.5-2 ounces from the WW and 7-14 grams from the other 2. Is that unreasonable to expect now? do you still think i should keep vegging?

The best growers are rarely in a hurry to harvest. Lighting is one of the biggest factors in yield, and I haven't seen where you've mentioned your wattage yet.

If you have a 1000w quality bulb and CO2,.. the perfect soil conditions, temps and nutrients,.. then you might just edge out 1.5 to 2 oz's per plant if you start flowering now to a week from now. BUT,.. at 21 days my plants are almost twice the size/bushyness of your pics,.. and I could barely get 2 ozs per plant after vegging for 3 weeks. If the rest of your grow goes like the first 19 days,.. (meaning you don't have 1000w, CO2 and perfection in soil),.. then you should veg,.. LST and veg some more,.. maybe another two to three weeks to get to your goal. If you have a 75 W HPS street lamp,.. then you may never hit your goal. You originally wrote in your first post, that people hate the question. It isn't the question, but how it's asked. People can't tell you what you're going to yield 3 months down the road, from a picture today. You need to give all the info,.. that's ALL the stuff that will affect the grow, before you can get an estimate.

alright well i have a 250 w hps but i've decided to start flowering them today. I'm just going to start a new grow with my old CFLs and so when these are done i can just throw the new ones in flowering. I'm sure I'll be able to get 3 ounces from these and that'll be enough to last me. i'll post my yield in about 9 weeks if anyone's interested.

Veg at least 1 month or around 10-12 inches tall. Top if you'd like or supercrop. Then depending on light you should be able to pull 2 oz. a pop. Around a month or so veg and you should have a nice little bush. And yes, I don't care what kind of lighting, a good veg/training will yield.

Good luck Grind, hope you exceed your expectations!