Whites and blacks in US 'disagree on racism'

vostok

vostok

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Views on racial discrimination and race in the US differ wildly among blacks and whites,
a new report from the Pew Research Center has found.

Most blacks say they are treated unfairly and do not feel that racial equality has been achieved
in the US, according to the report.

Eighty-eight percent of blacks surveyed think the country must change, but only 55% of whites.

The survey comes amid ongoing conversations about race in the US.

Race tensions are high in the US, especially with the 2016 presidential election approaching.

Obama's impact on race

  • 51% of blacks surveyed say Mr Obama has improved race relations

  • 34% say he has tried, but failed to make progress

  • 32% of whites say he has made things worse

  • 28% of whites say he has made things better
Pew Research Center

There are more than 1,000 deadly shootings by police in the country each year, and those killed
are disproportionately African-American.

The fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown in Missouri in 2014 by police sparked protests across
the country and gave fire to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Other key points from the report:


  • Blacks are twice as likely as whites to say there is not enough attention paid to race relations
  • There is widespread support for the Black Lives Matter movement among blacks
  • Gaps between blacks and whites in economic security have widened
  • Whites are polarised among partisan lines on racial issues
  • A majority of blacks surveyed (71%) say they have experienced discrimination
"Blacks, far more than whites, say black people are treated unfairly across different realms of life,
from dealing with the police to applying for a loan or mortgage. And, for many blacks, racial equality remains an elusive goal," the report's authors write.

There were 3,769 adults polled between 29 February and 8 May of 2016 - a group made up of 1,799 whites, 1,004 blacks and 654 Hispanics.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36646917)
 
bearkat42

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To those that say Obama has made race relations worse, I would honestly like someone to provide some real examples of this. What has he done, other than be black?
 
Ace Yonder

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vostok said:

Views on racial discrimination and race in the US differ wildly among blacks and whites,
a new report from the Pew Research Center has found.

Most blacks say they are treated unfairly and do not feel that racial equality has been achieved
in the US, according to the report.

Eighty-eight percent of blacks surveyed think the country must change, but only 55% of whites.

The survey comes amid ongoing conversations about race in the US.

Race tensions are high in the US, especially with the 2016 presidential election approaching.

Obama's impact on race

  • 51% of blacks surveyed say Mr Obama has improved race relations

  • 34% say he has tried, but failed to make progress

  • 32% of whites say he has made things worse

  • 28% of whites say he has made things better
Pew Research Center

There are more than 1,000 deadly shootings by police in the country each year, and those killed
are disproportionately African-American.

The fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown in Missouri in 2014 by police sparked protests across
the country and gave fire to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Other key points from the report:


  • Blacks are twice as likely as whites to say there is not enough attention paid to race relations
  • There is widespread support for the Black Lives Matter movement among blacks
  • Gaps between blacks and whites in economic security have widened
  • Whites are polarised among partisan lines on racial issues
  • A majority of blacks surveyed (71%) say they have experienced discrimination
"Blacks, far more than whites, say black people are treated unfairly across different realms of life,
from dealing with the police to applying for a loan or mortgage. And, for many blacks, racial equality remains an elusive goal," the report's authors write.

There were 3,769 adults polled between 29 February and 8 May of 2016 - a group made up of 1,799 whites, 1,004 blacks and 654 Hispanics.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36646917)
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I'm genuinely curious as to how the 654 Hispanics responded... the article doesn't mention them at all except to say how many were polled.
 
vostok

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Ace Yonder said:
I'm genuinely curious as to how the 654 Hispanics responded... the article doesn't mention them at all except to say how many were polled.
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I agree and noticed the same, I posted this from the BBC, because often that get posted about race from the USA, is seriously unusual, like theirs war going on or something
 
CrocodileStunter

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bearkat42 said:
I don't give a shit about a couple of skinheads getting beat up. I'm talking basic fairness, man. Why is it so hard for America to treat POC fairly? Serious question.
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poc should start showing that blm by reducing the murder rates in their own communities.
 
Fogdog

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vostok said:

Views on racial discrimination and race in the US differ wildly among blacks and whites,
a new report from the Pew Research Center has found.

Most blacks say they are treated unfairly and do not feel that racial equality has been achieved
in the US, according to the report.

Eighty-eight percent of blacks surveyed think the country must change, but only 55% of whites.

The survey comes amid ongoing conversations about race in the US.

Race tensions are high in the US, especially with the 2016 presidential election approaching.

Obama's impact on race

  • 51% of blacks surveyed say Mr Obama has improved race relations

  • 34% say he has tried, but failed to make progress

  • 32% of whites say he has made things worse

  • 28% of whites say he has made things better
Pew Research Center

There are more than 1,000 deadly shootings by police in the country each year, and those killed
are disproportionately African-American.

The fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown in Missouri in 2014 by police sparked protests across
the country and gave fire to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Other key points from the report:


  • Blacks are twice as likely as whites to say there is not enough attention paid to race relations
  • There is widespread support for the Black Lives Matter movement among blacks
  • Gaps between blacks and whites in economic security have widened
  • Whites are polarised among partisan lines on racial issues
  • A majority of blacks surveyed (71%) say they have experienced discrimination
"Blacks, far more than whites, say black people are treated unfairly across different realms of life,
from dealing with the police to applying for a loan or mortgage. And, for many blacks, racial equality remains an elusive goal," the report's authors write.

There were 3,769 adults polled between 29 February and 8 May of 2016 - a group made up of 1,799 whites, 1,004 blacks and 654 Hispanics.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36646917)
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Tensions are high because white privilege is being seriously challenged. In the survey that you posted, it said that 55% of whites in this country think that this country must change. The fucker minimized this with the word "only". 55% is a majority. Aligned with strong majorities in other delegations, this is a majority's force for change in the laws and customs that perpetuate racism especially where it matters such as in the judicial system. The idea that the police must not apply bias and racism towards law enforcement shouldn't be that difficult to explain, yet this is a "racially charged" issue. Isn't the issue better described as an issue with bigots and racism?
 
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ThickStemz

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Obama has hurt race relations because to an extent we need black Americans to go along to get along. He has done things to inflame the issue. When he called police in MA stupid for arresting a man, since when did arresting someone become national news.

In every meaningful way that respects rights of others, we have achieved racial equality. The only way to make disparate groups equal in the current sitaion is to confiscate property. White people have a better time with
 
bluntmassa1

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bearkat42 said:
I don't give a shit about a couple of skinheads getting beat up. I'm talking basic fairness, man. Why is it so hard for America to treat POC fairly? Serious question.
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They are treated pretty fairly in a lot of places in the country every black person I know in my state is doing pretty good and have white women their are some racists but it's a minority. Probably the reason more and more black people have been moving into my state when I first moved out here you where surprised to see a black person but now you drive through any little city you see black people more and more every few years. They must be moving in for a reason ain't no work in ghettos I would guess. But a lot do sell drugs too but a small minority.

Not sure about places like Tennessee though lol I've only ever visited that state.

Florida is pretty bad though not many black people working on beach side but a huge ghetto just over the bridge.
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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bluntmassa1 said:
Unarmed white people are killed too as Latino as Arabs in the Middle East we need unity like Bob Marley said. :)
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Sure they are. Just at not nearly the same rate. I'm seeing unarmed black people killed by the police all of the time, while white guys actually shoot at the police and live to tell about it.
An unarmed black person was killed by the police every 9 days last year. That seems a little high to me.
 
CrocodileStunter

CrocodileStunter

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bearkat42 said:
Sure they are. Just at not nearly the same rate. I'm seeing unarmed black people killed by the police all of the time, while white guys actually shoot at the police and live to tell about it.
An unarmed black person was killed by the police every 9 days last year. That seems a little high to me.
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it's insignificant as a percentage. Nobody in the history of america has preyed on their own neighbors and neighborhoods like the black community. Why are blacks so violent compared to every other race?
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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CrocodileStunter said:
it's insignificant as a percentage. Nobody in the history of america has preyed on their own neighbors and neighborhoods like the black community. Why are blacks so violent compared to every other race?
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So the police killing an unarmed black person every 9 days Is insignificant? Wow, ok. How do you think white people would respond to an unarmed white person killed every 9 days by the police. Do you think they'd be screaming that it's insignificant because as a percentage it would be much smaller.. Would you have a problem with government sanctioned killings every 9 days, because that's basically what they are.
 
CrocodileStunter

CrocodileStunter

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bearkat42 said:
So the police killing an unarmed black person every 9 days I'd insignificant? Wow, ok. How do you think white people would respond to an unarmed white person killed every 9 days by the police. Do you think they'd be screaming that it's insignificant because as a percentage it would be much smaller..
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You will not answer about why black communities are so violent compared to every other ethnicity in our country though. Maybe you should e screaming about how black on black violence is the real problem in your community. It's not the police it's your own killing your own. Chicago has more killings by black people against black people in a single weekend than all of the blacks shot by police in a year. I just wanna know why you think black communities kill their own at a rate that doesn't exist anywhere else in the 1st world. More whites get killed by police than blacks every year.
 
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