iSmokealottaweed
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Not being told what you want to hear is a line of bullshit? He more so sounds like he's just trying to help you guys not waste time. Chill out.
Who has a non GMO stevia cutting?
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Bigtacofarmer
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How do you figure. If I actually need hectacres just to supplement my families diet with an interesting plant then he needs to learn a little about sustainability. If he's just thinks I'm not capable then he should just say it. When you patent plants you do it for one of a few reasons. Such as.... It is GMO bullshit, you are protecting an investment and it is actually much easier than you let on, or you are one of the idiots that think food and water are things to be bought and sold as opposed to shared (if thats the case they can fuck themselves). I don't know the motivation myself. I was just searching for an interesting plant to learn to grow. One he apparently has access to and grows, yet feels others need to be warned of.
No offence but I think he is 90% full of shit. If you look in the gardening thread I started the same thread and found someone growing stevia from seed in an aero garden. People on here grow tropical sativas all day. Limit your own abilities and leave mine alone eh!
No offence but I think he is 90% full of shit. If you look in the gardening thread I started the same thread and found someone growing stevia from seed in an aero garden. People on here grow tropical sativas all day. Limit your own abilities and leave mine alone eh!
Wow, is this what it is like in these forums? Nice welcoming.
Sure, grow your plant or two....like I said, for show....as it is all it will be good for. Or just shove it up your ass.
Thanks, exactly what I was trying to do. There is so little real info about stevia out there and tons of hearsay and speculation. Was only trying to aid from a real life perspective.
HelpHub
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Christ, it was a joke dipshit. "Big Stevia"? Is there even such a thing?
I refuse to use emoticons so get your sarcasm detector fixed.
Bigtacofarmer
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Ok. You come on a new forum, dedicated to growers and answer a thread requesting a cutting. One you happen to have. First you tell me you grow this plant commercially, then that there is no point of growing it at home. Then you point out that it has a low germ rate and the high sugar plants are rare. I get all that! But none of it is helpful. I have already researched enough to find out most of that. Not to mention you had to start somewhere, phenotype hunting and learning all of this. So it is clearly impossible or to much of a pain for anyone else to do. I figure you just signed up to run your mouth! Nothing you stated gets me any closer to having a stevia cutting or learning to grow it. It only suggest I'm not capable. Did you offer me a cutting, no, you pointed out yours is patented.
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I am just pretty sure if you intended to actually be any help to anyone you would give actually grow and germination advice, as well as climate and nutrient requirements. And offer a cut. Its a plant, put here for all of us to enjoy, thanks though. While your at it please explore the rest of this forum. Lots of people being helpful to other people (often rude), but look and see how many beautiful grows there is as opposed to people saying you can't do that?
Thanks again big stevia farmer!
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I am just pretty sure if you intended to actually be any help to anyone you would give actually grow and germination advice, as well as climate and nutrient requirements. And offer a cut. Its a plant, put here for all of us to enjoy, thanks though. While your at it please explore the rest of this forum. Lots of people being helpful to other people (often rude), but look and see how many beautiful grows there is as opposed to people saying you can't do that?
Thanks again big stevia farmer!
You've got some chip on your shoulder. That's okay, I don't need know you in real life luckily.
Come get a cutting. Once you get to Kigali we will pick you up and take you to the plantation about 30km outside of the city. Alternatively we can ship you some once you get clearance for the cuttings to enter the USA. I'm sure they'll be just fine after 5 days of transit at extreme air freight cost.
Finally, I highly suggest you begin using emoticons if you were trying to be even remotely sarcastic.
Umm is there some reason you duplicated this thread?
https://www.rollitup.org/gardening/633865-who-has-non-gmo-stevia.html
You might get better answers if this was combined with your Gardening category thread (where it belongs LOL). That's the only problem with our primary plant it can make us just a tad 'forgetful' at times
Bigtacofarmer
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I posted in both threads because one thread is local. I figured I improved my chances a little.
As for being sarcastic, maybe a little. You could have explained your point of view differently as well as pointing out the legal aspects in your first post. Sorry.
As for being sarcastic, maybe a little. You could have explained your point of view differently as well as pointing out the legal aspects in your first post. Sorry.
tricloud
New Member
I've tried a bunch of the alternatives since i found out i have type 2 diabetes, Stevia in the raw is the best so far. Very little after taste and it's way better than nothing quite often.
buckaroo bonzai
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heres a great company that sells all type of organic medicine plants--
---I linked you to their stevia cuttings....
these are good organic hippies-
call themhttps://www.horizonherbs.com/product.asp?specific=2240
and this is a real good organic bulk erb company....
bulk organic stevia powder
--again good organic hippies.....
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/s.html
buckaroo bonzai
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you should look at Jerusalem artichoke syrup for sweetener....
--if you have diabetes
-- it has "inulin"--- a glycemic regulator
also the cactus that Mexican eat for breakfast has inulin...
and .cinnamon helps control glycemic also...
my father is dying from it now...
its possible to reverse typeII w a good diet---raw helps
this is a good organic site with lots of superfood--nice hippies too!
https://www.brightearthfoods.com/index.php?src=directory&view=Pages&srctype=detail&refno=899
they sell it here^^^...it can be hard to find (gro-it) it's medicine sweetner
http://www.tumbledownfarm.com/drupal/Farming_Gardening_Tips/Jerusalem_Artichokes_Sunchokes
The artichoke contains about 10% protein, no oil, and a surprising lack of starch. However, it is rich in the carbohydrate inulin (76%), which is a polymer of the monosaccharide fructose. Tubers that are stored for any length of time will digest its inulin into its component fructose. Jerusalem artichokes have an underlying sweet taste because of the fructose, which is about one and a half times sweeter than sucrose.[SUP][4][/SUP]
Jerusalem artichokes have also been promoted as a >>healthy choice for diabetics.
The reason for this being the case is because fructose is better tolerated by people that are diabetic. It has also been reported as a folk remedy for diabetes.[SUP][5][/SUP] Temperature variances have been shown to affect the amount of inulin the Jerusalem artichoke can produce. When not in tropical regions, it has been shown to make less inulin than when it is in a warmer region.[SUP][6][/SUP]
I'm not in the US but I'd check the ingredients. I swear someone told me it is a blend with a type of sugar.
heres a great company that sells all type of organic medicine plants--
---I linked you to their stevia cuttings....
these are good organic hippies-
https://www.horizonherbs.com/product.asp?specific=2240
and this is a real good organic bulk erb company....
bulk organic stevia powder
--again good organic hippies.....
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/s.html
FYI, odds are these are all the chinese plants which have no sugar relevance and are the more 'medicinal' tea type of stevia.
Amazing markups! 3 plants for $20.... I saw an offer for a supply contract in Greece that was 5 cents per plant....albeit in quantities of 100,000 plants (still a high price).
Bigtacofarmer
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Good shit Bonzai.... Thanks.
JeromeT
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DorianB: Your new name is "DorianBuzzkill The Troll"
FatMarty
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I'm not buying Dorian's bullshit.
The reviews on the seed sites show people getting sweet ones all the time.
And all you have to do is germinate in a paper towel like we usually do anyway.
Might take a few years to get big enough to produce from the looks of things.
Be perfect for a greenhouse or else grow in a large bag, etc. so you can bring it inside for winter.
I wish I had a sun room or something like that for one.
I don't want anything but marijuana around my marijuana plants; so it would have to live upstairs.
Oh fuck it - as long as I'm wishing for shit - I wish I had a huge greenhouse full of foodstuff growing.
Them things are pretty expensive to build and operate though.
I got room out back for one; but I bet the township would be put off by anything like that.
Probably be easier to get a zoning clearance from the board for a tennis court than a greenhouse around here.
About 20 years ago I submitted a plan for a Gazebo and got it approved by the zoning board.
I never did build the thing.
Part of the process for approval was presenting my paperwork to the board at a hearing - sorta like going before a tribunal.
So while I was waiting my turn they approved two tennis courts and declined another one until they added a better fence or some shit.
Needless to say I felt a bit out of my league.
The reviews on the seed sites show people getting sweet ones all the time.
And all you have to do is germinate in a paper towel like we usually do anyway.
Might take a few years to get big enough to produce from the looks of things.
Be perfect for a greenhouse or else grow in a large bag, etc. so you can bring it inside for winter.
I wish I had a sun room or something like that for one.
I don't want anything but marijuana around my marijuana plants; so it would have to live upstairs.
Oh fuck it - as long as I'm wishing for shit - I wish I had a huge greenhouse full of foodstuff growing.
Them things are pretty expensive to build and operate though.
I got room out back for one; but I bet the township would be put off by anything like that.
Probably be easier to get a zoning clearance from the board for a tennis court than a greenhouse around here.
About 20 years ago I submitted a plan for a Gazebo and got it approved by the zoning board.
I never did build the thing.
Part of the process for approval was presenting my paperwork to the board at a hearing - sorta like going before a tribunal.
So while I was waiting my turn they approved two tennis courts and declined another one until they added a better fence or some shit.
Needless to say I felt a bit out of my league.
JeromeT
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"Stevia rebaudiana seeds are rarely available because of production problems and poor germination, so plants are generally used instead. Plants are available from several mail order sources. Be sure you are getting Stevia rebaudiana (Stevia is the genus and rebaudiana is the species) since this is the only sweet variety. Stevia stems are brittle, but nurseries have developed packing methods to protect them in transit. Arrange for plants to arrive soon after your last frost date. Later on, very high temperatures may stress transplants. Transfer plants to the garden as soon as possible after arrival, making sure they don't dry out in the meantime."
If you are fortunate enough to obtain high-quality Stevia seeds, they are easily germinated indoors under lights. Seedlings grow slowly, so allow 7 to 8 weeks from seed to transplanting (Columbus, 1997). Only black or dark brown seeds are viable. A tan or clear color suggests they are empty shells, lacking an embryo. You can verify this by slicing some seeds in half. Good seeds will be solid and white inside. Even firm, black seeds tend to lose viability rapidly. A germination test will indicate what percentage of the seeds are likely to sprout. Place 10 or more seeds on a wet paper towel. Fold the towel in half 3 times, then slip it into a plastic bag kept at 72 F to 80 F. Count sprouted seeds after 7 days and divide by the total number of seeds you were testing, then multiply by 100 to get the germination percentage.
A plastic flat covered by a clear plastic dome, available from garden retailers, makes a good germination chamber when placed beneath a growing light. Place a thermometer inside and maintain a 70 F to 75 F temperature by adjusting the level of the light. Use small containers (with drainage holes) or plastic cell packs filled with standard potting soil. Place 3 or 4 seeds on the soil surface in each container and cover with a thin layer (about 1/8 inch) of horticultural vermiculite. Water from below as needed by pouring water into the tray. Seedlings should emerge in 1 to 2 weeks. Thin to one plant per container. Extra seedlings may be transplanted to empty containers.
this is from:
http://www.stevia.com/Stevia_article/Growing_Your_Own_Stevia/8077
here are some seeds:
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-8160-stevia.aspx?source=google_herbs&9gtype=search&9gkw=stevia seeds&9gad=6800217133.1&gclid=CJiN_4SyjLYCFYI-Mgod7Q4AHw
If you are fortunate enough to obtain high-quality Stevia seeds, they are easily germinated indoors under lights. Seedlings grow slowly, so allow 7 to 8 weeks from seed to transplanting (Columbus, 1997). Only black or dark brown seeds are viable. A tan or clear color suggests they are empty shells, lacking an embryo. You can verify this by slicing some seeds in half. Good seeds will be solid and white inside. Even firm, black seeds tend to lose viability rapidly. A germination test will indicate what percentage of the seeds are likely to sprout. Place 10 or more seeds on a wet paper towel. Fold the towel in half 3 times, then slip it into a plastic bag kept at 72 F to 80 F. Count sprouted seeds after 7 days and divide by the total number of seeds you were testing, then multiply by 100 to get the germination percentage.
A plastic flat covered by a clear plastic dome, available from garden retailers, makes a good germination chamber when placed beneath a growing light. Place a thermometer inside and maintain a 70 F to 75 F temperature by adjusting the level of the light. Use small containers (with drainage holes) or plastic cell packs filled with standard potting soil. Place 3 or 4 seeds on the soil surface in each container and cover with a thin layer (about 1/8 inch) of horticultural vermiculite. Water from below as needed by pouring water into the tray. Seedlings should emerge in 1 to 2 weeks. Thin to one plant per container. Extra seedlings may be transplanted to empty containers.
this is from:
http://www.stevia.com/Stevia_article/Growing_Your_Own_Stevia/8077
here are some seeds:
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-8160-stevia.aspx?source=google_herbs&9gtype=search&9gkw=stevia seeds&9gad=6800217133.1&gclid=CJiN_4SyjLYCFYI-Mgod7Q4AHw
Bigtacofarmer
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I have not checked that one. We plan on ordering from one of the links above. They don't ship til April 1. We are also grabbing a few different seeds to see what we get. The reason I started searching here is because my wife had found a number of places with cuts about 6 months ago. When she actually got read to order most of the sites were down or out of cuts, some had the wrong one. I figured if I posted here maybe I would luck out and just grab one locally. Over the next few months I plan to start a huge collection of spices, herbs, and other plants.