Who you gonna call? Myth busters!

Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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You go right ahead.
We are in a drought at the moment. which is why I am planting outdoors in winter.
We at least get a small drizzle every now and then in winter and the soil stays soft. We are also in temperate weather. If I were to plant in spring, the plants will be burned dead by summer. I've seen the heat and drought kill trees this year. Dixie cup mangled roots would be a death knell here.
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Yeah, I grow indoor... If I were growing outdoor I wouldn't use pots at all.

This brings me to a point about Pots, lights, nutes, leaching, etc... so many people on here think everything is black and white. While I agree, some things are striaght-up myth, there's also a lot of things that depend on the application.
 
Joomby

Joomby

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I have to agree on this. Not sure about hydro but when using soil root development is crucial. The bigger the roots the more surface area for nutrients to be taken up. If they are bunched up and just sitting against a pot or "party cup" then they are missing opportunity to take food up to the plant. There is a few more factors that make root sise important but you get the drift. I germinate in 700ml cups and transplant 2 weeks after sprout and rarely do I see much roots hitting the edge therefore i am not stressing the plant at all during transplant and the plants don't even know they have been moved
 
Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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Joomby said:
I have to agree on this. Not sure about hydro but when using soil root development is crucial. The bigger the roots the more surface area for nutrients to be taken up. If they are bunched up and just sitting against a pot or "party cup" then they are missing opportunity to take food up to the plant. There is a few more factors that make root sise important but you get the drift. I germinate in 700ml cups and transplant 2 weeks after sprout and rarely do I see much roots hitting the edge therefore i am not stressing the plant at all during transplant and the plants don't even know they have been moved
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I'm not disagreeing with you, however, indoor, in pots, fully mature plants can get bound. As long as you're taking care of them properly you won't hurt your plants too bad. Again application makes the difference here.

EDIT: for full disclosure I grow inside in coir.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Joomby said:
I have to agree on this. Not sure about hydro but when using soil root development is crucial. The bigger the roots the more surface area for nutrients to be taken up. If they are bunched up and just sitting against a pot or "party cup" then they are missing opportunity to take food up to the plant. There is a few more factors that make root sise important but you get the drift. I germinate in 700ml cups and transplant 2 weeks after sprout and rarely do I see much roots hitting the edge therefore i am not stressing the plant at all during transplant and the plants don't even know they have been moved
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Damn u!
You just made me feel guilty for not transplanting today like i was going to.

I just topped today so ill wait and up pot next week sometime.
 
Joomby

Joomby

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
Yeah, I grow indoor... If I were growing outdoor I wouldn't use pots at all.

This brings me to a point about Pots, lights, nutes, leaching, etc... so many people on here think everything is black and white. While I agree, some things are striaght-up myth, there's also a lot of things that depend on the application.
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I have finally learnt pots are shit to grow In especially black ones .i pulled a zucchini plant a while back and when it came out the moist soil that was against the inside of the pot was steaming! I live in north aus so the outside temp wasn't low enough to make this normal.just imagine the damage that was done from literally cooking the roots. I now plant in large raised beds made out of whatever I find. I'm using a kidi pool with the bottom slashed up at the moment for tomatoes and they are powering the biggest tomatoes I have ever grown
 
Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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Joomby said:
I have finally learnt pots are shit to grow In especially black ones .i pulled a zucchini plant a while back and when it came out the moist soil that was against the inside of the pot was steaming! I live in north aus so the outside temp wasn't low enough to make this normal.just imagine the damage that was done from literally cooking the roots. I now plant in large raised beds made out of whatever I find. I'm using a kidi pool with the bottom slashed up at the moment for tomatoes and they are powering the biggest tomatoes I have ever grown
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Exactly, what, do you suggest I grow in indoors? I'm using cloth pots in a tent with coir.
 
Joomby

Joomby

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
I'm not disagreeing with you, however, indoor, in pots, fully mature plants can get bound. As long as you're taking care of them properly you won't hurt your plants too bad. Again application makes the difference here.

EDIT: for full disclosure I grow inside in coir.
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Yep even plants in large pots get root bound at some point. I thought you were referring to seeing a plant out in party cups haha that would definitely stunt growth
 
Joomby

Joomby

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Xcoregamerskillz said:
Exactly, what, do you suggest I grow in indoors? I'm using cloth pots in a tent with coir.
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Dude I know nothing about indoors haha but my guess is they would perform better indoors than out because you don't have the sun beating on the side of your pots only above the plant .its a better question for one of the indoor veterans on here
 
Xcoregamerskillz

Xcoregamerskillz

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Joomby said:
Yep even plants in large pots get root bound at some point. I thought you were referring to seeing a plant out in party cups haha that would definitely stunt growth
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Hahaha, nooooooo. I start my seeds in cups, then up them to 1 gal, then finish in 5s.20170629_051936.jpg
These need to be re-potted, but the way I'm growing, it makes sense to use small pots to start.
 
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