Wholesale cannabis prices hit historic lows in January

Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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greg nr said:
This weekend I'm going to make some rso with some leftover bud and iso. I'm using iso because it's cheap and it will only be used topically. I don't want to waste perfectly good everclear by evaporating it off. ;)

I've developed some form of arthritis in my shoulder and at times I can't lift my arm above my shoulders. I'm going to make a sav and see if it helps.

I'm not a med patient, but I wouldn't be able to do this without legalization. It won't be pshycotropic.

I guess I'm some kind of fraud, using my legal status to get medical benefit. Shame on me.
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here's a topical DIY recipe i made and am still tweaking. i also suffer from arthritis and tennis elbow. give it a shot. i have shared with several people and they like it. smells like peppermint, camphor and menthol. gonna use ISO hash to make it next time instead of flowers. trying to up the potency as well. it helps me.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-topicals-lotions-creams-salves.954209/
 
greg nr

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KryptoBud

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Sour Wreck said:
i think you stepped over the line when you accuse most medical patients of faking it.

i use it medicinally and its not even prescribed.
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Fair enough, but having lists of doctors that are willing to perscribe it for payment says something to me. How did you know weed was gonna fix or treat your illness? Lucky guess or did you have to try a buffet of perscription meds to find it?

When most people get sick their first concern shouldn't be is this doctor more likely to perscribe weed than another.

My post was about people expecting a discount or acting like the people growing or supplying are the scourge of the earth because it's "medicine" now. It's a service like anything else whether the end user is med,rec,or black market.

Instead of people crying, pissing,and moaning "poor me poor me" about the price and expecting growers to absorb the cost grow it yourself or try getting insurance companies to pay for it like any other medical issue. I've never seen any threads discussing that topic, how about you? Get employers to accept it as a legit med so patients can get and hold decent paying jobs without fear of drug testing and being fired for it. I think if someone can post a thousand posts a month on the internet they can get a job to pay for their own shit.

If you're in contact with all these terminally ill people you must live in a nursing home or Chernobyl and should probably move.
 
MichiganMedGrower

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KryptoBud said:
Fair enough, but having lists of doctors that are willing to perscribe it for payment says something to me. How did you know weed was gonna fix or treat your illness? Lucky guess or did you have to try a buffet of perscription meds to find it?

When most people get sick their first concern shouldn't be is this doctor more likely to perscribe weed than another.

My post was about people expecting a discount or acting like the people growing or supplying are the scourge of the earth because it's "medicine" now. It's a service like anything else whether the end user is med,rec,or black market.

Instead of people crying, pissing,and moaning "poor me poor me" about the price and expecting growers to absorb the cost grow it yourself or try getting insurance companies to pay for it like any other medical issue. I've never seen any threads discussing that topic, how about you? Get employers to accept it as a legit med so patients can get and hold decent paying jobs without fear of drug testing and being fired for it. I think if someone can post a thousand posts a month on the internet they can get a job to pay for their own shit.

If you're in contact with all these terminally ill people you must live in a nursing home or Chernobyl and should probably move.
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The only people that ever complained to me about price were rec users and dealers. And it’s because of cash croppers and rec stores we have a discount price war now.

Many Medical caregivers have always helped needy sick people. It’s the dispensaries ripping off the sick.

Sounds like Growers are not ready to compete in the new market to me in many complaint posts.
 
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KryptoBud

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MichiganMedGrower said:
The only people that ever complained to me about price were rec users and dealers. And it’s because of cash croppers and rec stores we have a discount price war now.

Many Medical caregivers have always helped needy sick people. It’s the dispensaries ripping off the sick.

Sounds like Growers are not ready to compete in the new market to me in many complaint posts.
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I don't deal with anything medical, never have. My comments have more to do with the mindset of people. If you grow and sell it to sick people for profit, your're an asshole who should be burned at the stake. Having a competitive market is good it keeps prices fair. Why is trying to get the best price for your weed any different than any other business medical or not?
Unfortunately people are greedy and will always want more for less. People wanted it legal to possess, use, go to a shop pick their strains like a buffet, buy the seeds they want, grow .trade it, have it delivered and are still getting fucked somehow.

They should regulate it like every other medication. Grow it in a clean room or a lab somewhere. Have every strain taste the same (who cares about taste if your dying) No more home grows or little guys make it all under strict federal regulation. Every product used to grow would need to be cleared by the FDA. Products are pulled of store shelves all the time because there's shit contained in them thats not on the label, can't have that in medicine people are using.
Then you'll have the same people pissing and moaning about bland cookie cutter bullshit. People wanted it decriminalized and got, wanted it medicinal and got it, wanted recreational and got it, now they want it free. Selfish cocksuckers can't be grateful that they have a choice when most don't. If you can sleep at night without having your heart stop if your dog barks, what's that worth?
 
MichiganMedGrower

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KryptoBud said:
I don't deal with anything medical, never have. My comments have more to do with the mindset of people. If you grow and sell it to sick people for profit, your're an asshole who should be burned at the stake. Having a competitive market is good it keeps prices fair. Why is trying to get the best price for your weed any different than any other business medical or not?
Unfortunately people are greedy and will always want more for less. People wanted it legal to possess, use, go to a shop pick their strains like a buffet, buy the seeds they want, grow .trade it, have it delivered and are still getting fucked somehow.

They should regulate it like every other medication. Grow it in a clean room or a lab somewhere. Have every strain taste the same (who cares about taste if your dying) No more home grows or little guys make it all under strict federal regulation. Every product used to grow would need to be cleared by the FDA. Products are pulled of store shelves all the time because there's shit contained in them thats not on the label, can't have that in medicine people are using.
Then you'll have the same people pissing and moaning about bland cookie cutter bullshit. People wanted it decriminalized and got, wanted it medicinal and got it, wanted recreational and got it, now they want it free. Selfish cocksuckers can't be grateful that they have a choice when most don't. If you can sleep at night without having your heart stop if your dog barks, what's that worth?
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You are all over the place.
 
Go go n chill

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fearnoevil said:
Yeah, I've thought about this for a while now, and I honestly think legalization is going to drive prices down for the foreseeable future. If it becomes recreational legal in most states over the next decade, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price of a pound drop to a few hundred dollars, such is the double-edged sword of legalization. Great for smokers, not great for growers.

I assume there's a price point where it becomes unprofitable for growers which will then create an equalibrium, I don't know what that is but if it's less than $500 a pound for all but the highest top shelf bud, life is going to suck for small growers (and there goes my plan to retire and just grow weed in my old age, lol).

Seriously, I even believe that there's the possibility that we could see BIG companies, like say RJ Renolds, come in once the market is matured, building massive operations and cranking out packs of Marlboro Green or Camel Kush you can pick up at the liquor store in the not too distant future.

With legalization, growing your own marijuana is a trend that is only going to increase exponentially, not that everyone will be able to grow fire, but enough that the price for an ounce of killer bud will probably drop to $75-$100 within the next 7-10 years. Talk about a buzz kill, lol.
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Best bet for us small guys is legal medical marijuana and small cottage licenses..... growing for “friend that are sick “ just an off the cuff opinion. Maybe if each state goes legal and sale from growers to dispensary is totally kept “ in state” it could create markets that the little guy legal or gorilla could make a profit. Just my 2cents in the early morning
 
fearnoevil

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The only problem I see with this is that when states really start to regulate the medical side of cannabis, we could see a swing towards far more stringent controls and testing by health agencies, some of which are needed because we are talking about medicine to treat sick people and because where there's money to be made, there's always greedy people who will cheat or cut corners, using unsafe pesticides and/or carcinogenic growth-enhancing additives. etc.

But of course these will also favor bigger operations and corporate entities who can out-compete the small guys - while it may not be the best analogy, still you don't see a lot of mom-and-pop pharmaceutical companies around, and that's probably where this will end up as well, though that may be some time from now (or within the decade, who knows).
 
fearnoevil

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I don't mean to sound so pessimistic, lol, but IF marijuana becomes rec legal across the majority of states (say 30 or more) in the next 10-12 years, that will be great for medical users, for smokers and Big Canna (pot's version of Big Pharma, lol), just us small growers will wind up with the short end of the stick.
I find myself torn between rooting for legal weed and hoping conservatives manage to block recreational for the next 20-30 years so I can save up enough to pay for my nursing home costs (so my kids won't have too :cry:).
 
Go go n chill

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fearnoevil said:
I don't mean to sound so pessimistic, lol, but IF marijuana becomes rec legal across the majority of states (say 30 or more) in the next 10-12 years, that will be great for medical users, for smokers and Big Canna (pot's version of Big Pharma, lol), just us small growers will wind up with the short end of the stick.
I find myself torn between rooting for legal weed and hoping conservatives manage to block recreational for the next 20-30 years so I can save up enough to pay for my nursing home costs (so my kids won't have too :cry:).
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Good smoke could end up being like small batch bourbon. Regulated small growers could find a niche, medically or recreationally.... like a following and still have the blessing of the state because they are being ran in a safe manner
 
Go go n chill

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GreenHighlander said:
Well said I agree. After two decades of seeing it first hand I for one am sick of the "sense of entitlement" that I have seen from the severely ill this plant has helped. Don't even get me going on the entitlement of the terminally ill....... Fucking ignorant cunt.

What is actually much worse is like I have already stated, complete fucking punks using the medical guise to grow only to sell, because they obviously lack the balls to just fucking grow and leave legitimate medical out of it.
I also do not think that there should be any laws or rules regardless of it being recreational or medical. But the laws here in Canada actually give legitimate medical people the chance to have control over their own supply without the stresses of being a criminal. Sacks of shit that use this, and undermine it at the same time only do because they are commplete cowards who lack any ethics or morals.
Wanna grow and make money do it. Do NOT do it off the backs of those who are actually growing to simply make peoples lives better. It is a complete punk goof fucking move.
Cheers :)

Is that clear enough?
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If a person wants to acquire a license and grow medical cannabis for profit I see nothing wrong with it. Does it make him a piece of shit, no. That’s my opinion. I think asking a set price to a fella for an herb that you or someone propagated is well within reason. If someone has a chronic illness and a particular strain can ease the grief...... fuck by all means grow it and give it away ! Just my 2 cents
 
thenotsoesoteric

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farmerfischer said:
planet consciencous people won't buy indoor grow weed.. they'll stay to Sun grown ... It takes 200 lbs of coal to grow 1 pound of weed indoors...think about that for second..Joe shmoe who don't have a clue will buy top shelf indoor weed.. unfortunately there are a lot of Joe schmoe smokers .. I believe the green house growers will eventually be come more commen and demand a higher cost then indoor factory grown weed over time .. jmo.
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Meanwhile you're on a forum, how many lbs of coal you gotta burn to post that brilliant comment. Man you so woke while the rest of us sleeping hard.
 
redi jedi

redi jedi

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By this time next year I think you'd be lucky to get a grand/lb for even the finest indoor...here in Canada anyways. Not much profit after rent and power.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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@farmerfischer If you got something to say don't go to my page like a little kid. Say it where everyone can see it. Or just block me. Child, meanwhile I'm gonna talk down to people for growing indoor because no one wants to buy my shitty ass outdoor with bugs and mold spores.
 
thenotsoesoteric

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Dude you must have gotten the transcripts of my conversation with your mom because that is word for word what I told her this morning.
 
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