Why are there so many Trump supporters on RIU?

Fogdog

Fogdog

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cogitech said:
"Classical Liberals" is a group that is quickly growing due to being displaced by extreme ideologies on the left. But of course, in true ultra-left fashion, they are labelled as Trumptards or Nazis simply because they do not conform to the group-think. As this continues, it accelerates the mass exodus of independent thinkers from the left and it is creating a new "center". Watch for it.
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You are making up a new term. I have no idea what a "classical liberal" is.

Can you name some politicians who you think are Classical Liberals
 
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bundee1

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cogitech said:
I have no idea what any of this is about, but let's just say I have no quarrel with you. I am not a Trump supporter. I am a right-leaning Canadian who is concerned about the polarization of political opinion in the world. The left seems to be entering into a whole new realm of authoritarianism. Even being a centerist and/or disagreeing with the extreme leftist ideals gets people labelled Nazis or at least insulted or accused of something.

Be very careful down there in the States. It doesn't look like this is going to end well.
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Wow two native American/Japanese pro trump mamahuevos on this site? What are the odds?
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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cogitech said:
Somewhere around 50% of your fellow Americans are "fascists"?!

This is where civil discourse breaks down. Throwing around terms that most people don't even understand as a way to vilify those who don't agree with your group ideals.

This simply will not work. The left's refusal to even have a civil discussion is something that will need to change if any progress is to be made. You are interested in progress, right?
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no, it's about 38%...

fuck civil discourse.

i am done talking...
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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cogitech said:
Doesn't surprise me at all. I know quite a few Liberals with guns who hunt and shoot target/trap. However, they are Classical Liberals who don't buy into the ultra-left group-think and have no intention of turning their guns on Conservatives simply due to a different opinion on a few issues.

Your intent to kill your fellow Americans is noteworthy.
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he is not alone
 
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bundee1

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cogitech said:
1) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School)

2) Equity (enforced equal outcomes)

3) Curtailment of freedom of thought/expression

Classical Liberals reject all of the above, and are therefore incompatible with the current state of the global ultra-left. Any attempt to undermine this argument necessarily entails massive amounts of cognitive dissonance.
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3) you all think calling people the n word is freedom of speech. Moron.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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Jimdamick said:
"You people"?
W'ah the fuck?
All I asked was if you voted.
You didn't, right?
OK, end of story, but I don't understand why you are interested in politics, and don't vote.
Just doesn't make any sense too me.
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Hey Jim I don’t vote but I am political, I live in a fucking monarchy ruled by an evil witch, voting is pointless, the witch tells the American poodles ( our politicians) what to do. Loving the chav wedding our country’s share, so low class, jerry springer types
 
cogitech

cogitech

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Fogdog said:
What currently serving US Congress politicians do you consider "classical liberal"?
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Ron Paul (not current, but certainly significant) is the only name that comes to mind off the top of my head, but as a Canadian I am not very familiar with US Congress. Basically any of them that call themselves Libertarian have heavy classical Liberal ideals. This is considerably different than "social" Liberalism.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cogitech said:
1) Cultural Marxism (Frankfurt School)

2) Equity (enforced equal outcomes)

3) Curtailment of freedom of thought/expression

Classical Liberals reject all of the above, and are therefore incompatible with the current state of the global ultra-left. Any attempt to undermine this argument necessarily entails massive amounts of cognitive dissonance.
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1) Cultural Marxism is a chimera made up by Breitbart and the alt.right.
2) As long as we don't have equal opportunity then there must be enforcement of civil rights laws.
3) We have freedom of thought and expression. Both sides are free from government intrusion into what can or can't be said under the first amendment. People like Milo and Spencer are free to say what they want. Other people are free to protest their presence on campuses. Their freedom to speak doesn't mean that protesters can't exercise their freedom to protest and shut them up.
 
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bundee1

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cogitech said:
Ron Paul (not current, but certainly significant) is the only name that comes to mind off the top of my head, but as a Canadian I am not very familiar with US Congress. Basically any of them that call themselves Libertarian have heavy classical Liberal ideals. This is considerably different than "social" Liberalism.
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You mean white guys like Rob Roy? Or other white guys who think libertarian means saying the n word with impunity.
 
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schuylaar

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cogitech said:
"Classical Liberals" is a group that is quickly growing due to being displaced by extreme ideologies on the left. But of course, in true ultra-left fashion, they are labelled as Trumptards or Nazis simply because they do not conform to the group-think. As this continues, it accelerates the mass exodus of independent thinkers from the left and it is creating a new "center". Watch for it.
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Classic liberal is aka Establishment Democrat similar to that of a moderate republican aka Establishment Republican.

The two are almost interchangeable.

Democratic Socialism ie Denmark is far left.

Nationalism ie Nazi is far right.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cogitech said:
Ron Paul (not current, but certainly significant) is the only name that comes to mind off the top of my head, but as a Canadian I am not very familiar with US Congress. Basically any of them that call themselves Libertarian have heavy classical Liberal ideals. This is considerably different than "social" Liberalism.
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Oh yes, clearly not a liberal.

The guy is as racist as can be.

I'm beginning to get where you are coming from.

  • Small government with limited roles - National defense being one of them. Justice system too. What about education system, national or private?
  • Unregulated capitalism
  • No social programs like universal healthcare(?) or programs to keep people out of poverty or starving to death
  • No such thing as racism or racial inequality so civil rights laws are unnecessary

Am I guessing right?
 
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