burgertime2010
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Do you believe that all non Christians end up hellbound?
Why do you reject the theory of evolution?
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Flaming Pie
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I think the correct way to say it, is that all of us are hellbound unless we accept god into our hearts.
Saying that non-Christians are hell bound isn't quite right.
We are all sinners and only by opening our hearts and hands can we obtain salvation.
Saying that non-Christians are hell bound isn't quite right.
We are all sinners and only by opening our hearts and hands can we obtain salvation.
Padawanbater2
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It might seem like splitting hairs, but there is a distinction between circle and round; a circle would describe something round existing on a two dimensional plane, the word "round" describes the same object existing on a three dimensional plane. Similarly, square/box
That's a pretty common claim made by opponents of the theory of evolution, like when a lot of those same people say the same things about atheists on their deathbeds (deathbed confession). The reality is that Darwin was an outspoken supporter of the theory until he died. Even if he wasn't, the theory of evolution was postulated as early as ancient Greece and independently discovered by Alfred Wallace around the same time as Darwin. The evidence holds up regardless of who believes it or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the...ies_and_Species_by_Natural_Means_of_Selection
How can the Bible be divinely inspired by God yet contradict most of our modern laws?
burgertime2010
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That you are this flawed and broken being right out of the gate is not healthy, people afraid of the hell they had landscaped into their psyche is all. You can have open hearts, open minds, and be Christ-like but not because of fear. Fear is my true enemy and beyond it my personal power.
Someacdude
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I really like the way you can think, im to worn out tonight but i would like a chance to answer this tomorrow , im tired of thinking , plus its been a poopie day here for me, i need to juice more.
Flaming Pie
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it is only something negative if you look at it as negative.
Fear does not cause change in a persons heart. Fear only causes change in their actions.
Someacdude
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Man i tired lol.
Hades , ghehena etc all translated from their original greek etc all point to the grave.
God has no intention of burning anyone, thats utter nonsense taught by false religion to keep people in line, its a lie and nothing but a lie.
tyler.durden
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Someacdude
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As far as nonchritstians i love them to death, im just some very blessed person to know what i know, i didnt always know or believe it. Jesus Christ came here for everyone, not just the jews, at that time they where Gods chosen people , but there where several prophecies that pointed to the year, linage , birth place and even the manger or whatever he was born in. He didnt hate anyone, he spoke to everyone regardless of their status in any way, he was such a perfect man that even Mohamed , Ghandi etc etc etc all close in the time stream regarded him as a prophet and more.
I would love to talk more to all of you but i cant right now, my backs killing me and i said some mean things i have to apologize for to my daughter,,,,if only they where like Boys that way, sheesh
burgertime2010
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Fear is a cage, it inhibits growth, it is reductive and I see it as negative because it threatening. I do not see a divine nature in concepts of original sin, hell and heaven, and creation when the result is a sinner.
Flaming Pie
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Well put. Respect earned.
I like people who can disagree without being nasty.
I like people who can disagree without being nasty.
thump easy
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well count me out!!!! lolz jk 
Flaming Pie
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I was saying that fear does not make you Christian.
burgertime2010
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Fear has a role that keeps people Christian. I am sorry. The real Hell is the fear of hell.
thump easy
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no the real heal is the dont kill people dont hurt people and dont steel from people and dont shoot people it will keep you out of prison is the kinda feeling i got from it.. lolz i got some stories but ill sit and look from the side lines.. pluss it make you feel better and helping people helps me repair.. also i usto feel bad after i hurt someone i often usto beet people and then feel bad not women, Men.. i usto feel horible after the fact.. but know i havent hurt anyone in a long time.. but 9 out of ten the dudes were asking me to hurt them...
burgertime2010
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I know fear well and I know pain......I would rather endure the physical than the emotional torment.
joe macclennan
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precisely
Did I say anything about hating the book? No, I just enjoy it less than most any other book.
for someone who "loves them to death" you seem to exude a lot of hate against people who disagree with your views. I mean, you just went off on strife and burgertime.....and for what?
eye exaggerate
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So, you mean to say that you'd wish to destroy historical context? That sounds a little Back to the Future
I quoted your original use of the term destroy, not sure how you inferred otherwise.
Padawanbater2
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So, you mean to say that you'd wish to destroy historical context? That sounds a little Back to the Future
I quoted your original use of the term destroy, not sure how you inferred otherwise.
I said religion doesn't belong in an academic setting unless it's being viewed in historical context. Religion is for history class, not science. Do you agree?
I quoted Someacdude, he originally used the word "destroy"
Zaehet Strife
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Ahhh so i guess parts of the bible are taken out of context.... nah motha fucka! lol! You take them out of context when you pick them apart and assign your own meaning to them. The old testament is as part of the bible as any other part of the bible....why? Because it's in... the fuckin... BIBLE! lmfao!
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
^^^Riiight, because i am tooootally taking those passages out of context. Wait, hold on... actually i got them right from the bible that is sitting next to me right now. Hold on... that is crazy, the bible condoning slavery?!?!?! This is outrage!!! You know what im gonna do! God damnit im gonna pretend that the old testament isn't part of the bible, and im going to ignore it straight up, actually im never going to read the old testament again because i just reeaaally don't like it and i don't agree with it, even if it is IN THE BIBLE!.
Meh... sounds about right.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
^^^Riiight, because i am tooootally taking those passages out of context. Wait, hold on... actually i got them right from the bible that is sitting next to me right now. Hold on... that is crazy, the bible condoning slavery?!?!?! This is outrage!!! You know what im gonna do! God damnit im gonna pretend that the old testament isn't part of the bible, and im going to ignore it straight up, actually im never going to read the old testament again because i just reeaaally don't like it and i don't agree with it, even if it is IN THE BIBLE!.
Meh... sounds about right.
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