Why Grow with Hydro?

laserbrn

laserbrn

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I can't believe what I've even seen in this thread. This mod has NO respect for members and NO respect for his/her position on the forum. The moderator isn't here to moderate the content, only to enforce the rules. There's no rule on this forum that says dirt farmers can't post opinions in the hydro section. I can't figure out for the life of me how the "staff" around here would elect a noob as a moderator and let them just run wild.

I have grown hydro and soil. I still grow both and wouldn't considered a way "I used to grow". After my current soil grow I might do hydro, but really I feel it's a lot more work to grow hydro. Soil IS the easier of the two in my situation. My plants use a lot less water in soil than hydro. I don't really know how one of the posters has been managing it the other way. In hydro I have to have to keep filling reservoirs and flushing/cleaning. With soil I just water every other day, no big deal.

As far as faster or more vigorous growth, I'd say that hydro is faster, but I dunno, genetics play a bigger role. Healthy plants grow vigorously, hydro or soil.
 
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boneheadbob

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I dont hang out in a section. I refresh new posts and read anything that catches my eye.
Perhaps that is the reason many soil growers happened into the "Hydro Zone"

How do I escape before I become absorbed into the chemical vat?
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sso

sso

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after reading this thread, i am curious about one thing.

how many of you hydro growers grow only for yourself? (instead of commercial or for other people) and how many grow commercial or for other people?
 
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ExtremeMetal43

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How come people are saying you can fit more plants per square foot with hydro than with soil. I understand the root mas is smaller so those dont take up much space but arent the plants the same size. I got a 2.5 ft x 3 ft space and I can comfortably fit 4 plants under a 400 in there in soil. What im asking is can i really fit more in there with hydro because with this strain after topping it gets wide I dont see how switching mediums can change how many plants you can fit in a given space....can someone explain the you can fit more plants in a given space w hydro concept.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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sso said:
after reading this thread, i am curious about one thing.

how many of you hydro growers grow only for yourself? (instead of commercial or for other people) and how many grow commercial or for other people?
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I grow for my self and my wife...I grow more than I need...That keeps the drummer happy..he's broke all the time....

Anyway the person I get my clones from he grows in dirt...and he was so impressed by my finished product in hydro that he switched over to hydro....

Well it didn't work out so well he had root rot plants died......He went back to dirt...He thinks it is easier...He is a good grower with dirt....We both grow the same strain...but I like the taste and smell and the frostyness of my hydro bud better than his...I think the buds that he grows in soil may be fatter than mine but not by much...

Anyway I am happy with hydro and he is happy with dirt...The hydro is easier for me because when I go to work I am gone for 3 or four days at a time and all my wife has to do is make sure the barrell doesn't run out of water...If I was growing with dirt she would be doing alot more by her self...So as it is all she is doing is a walk around untill I get home...
 
BigBuddahCheese

BigBuddahCheese

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I agree with Raven.. I will compare my DWC bucket buds with any soil buds for quality and potency. Well I have actually, we trade ounces with a few dirt farmers and they all ask me my growth method when they smoke and taste my buds as they are always blown away.

I am sure there is some difference either way but no body but a lab will know if its grown correctly in any medium.
 
sso

sso

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nitro harley said:
I grow for my self and my wife...I grow more than I need...That keeps the drummer happy..he's broke all the time....

Anyway the person I get my clones from he grows in dirt...and he was so impressed by my finished product in hydro that he switched over to hydro....

Well it didn't work out so well he had root rot plants died......He went back to dirt...He thinks it is easier...He is a good grower with dirt....We both grow the same strain...but I like the taste and smell and the frostyness of my hydro bud better than his...I think the buds that he grows in soil may be fatter than mine but not by much...

Anyway I am happy with hydro and he is happy with dirt...The hydro is easier for me because when I go to work I am gone for 3 or four days at a time and all my wife has to do is make sure the barrell doesn't run out of water...If I was growing with dirt she would be doing alot more by her self...So as it is all she is doing is a walk around untill I get home...
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there are vast differences between soils.

it should be black or very dark, fluffy and light and loaded with nutrients in the right balance and also of the right ph or close to it.

and thats just in my opinion. im no where near an expert. just what ive found to work best so far. (i have yummy buds that you want to eat as soon as you look at them (look like candied sugar lol that still somehow looks nutritious :))

a delightful smoke in my opinion and those that have tried (though its only lately this good)

but anyways,claiming that hydro is better because your hydro outbeats his soil, does not say a thing about the quality of either..

and that i state this about my buds, does not say a thing about soil either or my grows, you might smoke them and find the opposite to be true, who knows,..

personally

ive always been rather displeased with the hydro ive tried and the taste of vegetables from hydro.

certain taste to it..

but still, i havent tried enough to claim all hydro is bad. i think if you got it down perfect and managed to fulfill all nutrient needs then hydro is probably better.

it sure does outperform in yield.

i personally am not attracted to it, but i can see the attraction and the fun of it.

im just too damn lazy to go messing with it :)

make a big enough mess with the aquarium when i mess with that lol.

id probably have a flood here in a week or so if i went hydro :D lol
 
sso

sso

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plus, i just finally grow as good as i want in soil, dont want to become a newbie in hydro just yet.

though i somehow doubt i ever will.

too bad we cant compare our buds though :)

im pretty sure mine would kick your´s ass :D but id be cool with losing :) (always great to have more good buds in the world and better ways to make em)
 
Bryon240

Bryon240

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i am buying a set up and have read alot o posts saying "tea" this and that about slime in lines or res...what is the tea's recipy.
 
Osburn

Osburn

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The whole soil vs. hydro thing is silly. When I think soil, I think about outdoor grows, not about plants under a 1000w sodium. IMO, doing soil indoors is like playing God halfway. The reason why I like indoor hydro is because I get to be God and have complete control over my plant's environment. I get kinda touchy about this subject because I've run into a lot of arrogant soil farmers who have ridiculed me for for doing hydro with a simple nutrient schedule when they're not even providing a decent environment for their plants and selling heat-stressed bud to patients. Maybe if they'd spend less money on soil and spend more money perfecting the environments in their grows, they wouldn't feel so humiliated when I show them my hydro nugs.
 
sso

sso

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Bryon240 said:
i am buying a set up and have read alot o posts saying "tea" this and that about slime in lines or res...what is the tea's recipy.
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basically boiling something and using the water you boiled it in to water the plants with.

Osburn said:
The whole soil vs. hydro thing is silly. When I think soil, I think about outdoor grows, not about plants under a 1000w sodium. IMO, doing soil indoors is like playing God halfway. The reason why I like indoor hydro is because I get to be God and have complete control over my plant's environment. I get kinda touchy about this subject because I've run into a lot of arrogant soil farmers who have ridiculed me for for doing hydro with a simple nutrient schedule when they're not even providing a decent environment for their plants and selling heat-stressed bud to patients. Maybe if they'd spend less money on soil and spend more money perfecting the environments in their grows, they wouldn't feel so humiliated when I show them my hydro nugs.
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well, you are bit doing the same thing, ridiculing them for not doing the same ;)

but you can do the god bit with soil too.

control everything thats in your soil

its called composting.
 
RavenMochi

RavenMochi

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TheDude007 said:
I've done both types for many years now, and I've grown more than just marijuana in both, so I feel I can offer an OPINION: Hydro > Soil in every respect.
Healthier, cleaner, safer, higher potency, higher yield, thicker bud density, BETTER TASTE, and overall a better final product. And I can say that for Marijuana and for fruits and vegetables that I've grown in earth boxes in soil, and hydro setups. Hydro > Soil. But only if done correctly, and by someone who has the right information on how to do things.
My fruits and vegetables taste better, have better yields, and less deficiencies and deformities in the final product. Regarding Marijuana.....yes soil can create an excellent final product, just less of it. I've grown the same strain in soil and hydro, and I can tell you that my patients all regarded the hydro buds to be superior to the soil ones. Just MY OPINION.
If you really know the ins and outs of hydroponics growing I do believe you can produce an overall superior product to what a master soil grower can produce. Someone earlier in this thread made a good comparison to what would happen if you gave a noob dr. dre's studio and dr. dre a laptop...who would produce better music? In the end a lot of your final product comes down to personal knowledge, not just growing style.

[1] Also regarding chastising someone for posting in any section of this site is wrong. [2] Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and should only be chastised if they are being inflammatory. (which I didn't see the original soil growers post as being, yes it was opinionated towards soil being > hydro, but my post here is just the opposite). [3] Each person can express their opinion, even if I don't find myself going into the soil growing section and touting how awesome hydro is to the soil people, I still feel he has a right to come over here and post about how he thinks its great. [4]To each his own, and let each person decide on what's > to them. Try all the growing methods, figure out what works best for you. No answer is the right one.
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1) If you really call those first two post chastising, you've lived a very sheltered life.
2) Yes, he was entitled to his opinion, but it served no useful purpose here. While what your saying sounds great on paper, why do you think they have the individual sections? Several reasons, a) to make information to your growing style easier to find, b) because it keeps people from arguing which is best and instead have useful content. If you don't think saying something like that in the hydro section was inflammatory, perhaps you can tell me what purpose it would possibly serve?
3) Never deleted his opinion. So tell me, how did I stop him from expressing his opinions? Oh, wait, I didn't. So...what's your problem again?!
4) Yes, to each his own, hence why we have both sections. hint. hint.


laserbrn said:
I can't believe what I've even seen in this thread. This mod has NO respect for members and NO respect for his/her position on the forum. The moderator isn't here to moderate the content, only to enforce the rules. There's no rule on this forum that says dirt farmers can't post opinions in the hydro section. I can't figure out for the life of me how the "staff" around here would elect a noob as a moderator and let them just run wild.

I have grown hydro and soil. I still grow both and wouldn't considered a way "I used to grow". After my current soil grow I might do hydro, but really I feel it's a lot more work to grow hydro. Soil IS the easier of the two in my situation. My plants use a lot less water in soil than hydro. I don't really know how one of the posters has been managing it the other way. In hydro I have to have to keep filling reservoirs and flushing/cleaning. With soil I just water every other day, no big deal.

As far as faster or more vigorous growth, I'd say that hydro is faster, but I dunno, genetics play a bigger role. Healthy plants grow vigorously, hydro or soil.
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*gasps!!* :shock: You hurt my feelings. :cry:
Okay, I'm over it. Somewhere deep down, I know what you just said is something, maybe, just maybe, I should give half a shit about. I really don't. Next time I'm wondering "how can I be a better mod" I assure you, I won't ask you. I hardly call what took place as running wild. Their have been incidents of mods flat out deleting post just because the poster disagreed. One of the ones who wanted to try that has been on this site at least as long as you. Oh, I get it. An elitist. †LOL† Thats the real problem, isn't it? I haven't been here as long as you, and have less post. I'm sure your shock will subside.
Though I am quite curious why every one is accusing me of moderating the content. Again, I left every one of his post alone, didn't delete a single one. But if it makes you feel better to have someone to revolt against, whatever. I'll try to pretend like I'm paying attention when you rant. :roll:
 
flamdrags420

flamdrags420

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bigv1976 said:
Ok so I am not responding to this to cause an argument so please see my point and we will move on. I figure if there is no difference what so ever and hydro is where it is at then why has every CC winner ever been grown in soil? We argue on here about the finer points of growing all the time such as hydro or soil and flush or not flush all the time. My point is if you want to be the best then you need to follow in the footsteps of the best. The best growers in the world grow in soil and flush their crop. Again not an argument. Just a discussion.
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where is the list that ever CC Winner has grown in soil? Compare this to the data of medium types of the entries.
 
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TheDude007

Member
Look RavenMochi I didn't even call you out, I called out that you were tearing down a guy for posting an opinion that he has a right to post. He isn't limited to posting only in the soil section, as I am not limited to posting in the hydro section. You sir are inflammatory yourself, and you have NO RIGHT BEING A MOD. I stopped visiting this site quite awhile back because there were no mods, and nobody to manage all the asshattery. Now there are mods, but unfortunately it looks like the mods are the worst of the bunch when it comes to internet bullying.
I made a very basic statement about how I thought the OP bigv had a right to state his opinion, and rather than just let me state my opinion, you feel a need to defend yourself against everything.
In your highly inflammatory response you stand behind your argument over and over " hence why we have both sections. hint. hint. " screw you. I post in all kinds of forums, and I grow both. So I'm not limited to sections right? then you go on to say "If you really call those first two post chastising, you've lived a very sheltered life" Really bro? You don't know, you did read my OP right? I did state MY FUCKING OPINION that you were chastising those 2. Just as your chastising and HARASSING me. I'm reporting you now.
You have NO BUSINSESS BEING A MOD. I am going to contact "the higher ups" and see why someone that's under age 15 is a mod on this forum. I sir do not like you.
There...reported, I have contacted the site administrator, and linked him to this forum posting. BYE BYE.
 
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TheDude007

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RavenSploogey:"2) Yes, he was entitled to his opinion, but it served no useful purpose here. While what your saying sounds great on paper, why do you think they have the individual sections? Several reasons, a) to make information to your growing style easier to find, b) because it keeps people from arguing which is best and instead have useful content. If you don't think saying something like that in the hydro section was inflammatory, perhaps you can tell me what purpose it would possibly serve"

You agree that he was entitled to his opinion, but it served no useful purpose here. HAHAHAHAHAHA. So you are moderating the content, rather than deleting it, by making pages of arguments with that poster and others, on why he apparently doesn't have a right to post his opinion in the first place. You go on to say "because it keeps people from arguing which is best and instead have useful content". If every response in this thread titled "why grow hydro?" was from hydro growers only, and the only responses he got were from a biased standpoint...how f'ing useful is that information bro? Please tell me where I can go on rollitup that states that if I grow hydro, I cannot post in the soil section with an opinion of my own. (even if it's hydro> soil). That's my opinion, and I have a right to express it. You asked at the end of your useless statement "perhaps you can tell me what purpose it would possibly serve". Your answer sir...is that it would help to provide an unbiased overall opinion for the person that posted this thread if he is able to obtain 100 opinions instead of 1, and if those opinions were the opinions of all growers, not just the hydro ones.

Please go jump off a bridge, or at least stop using the Internet RavenMochi. You'd do the world a big favor.
 
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TheDude007

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And RavenMochaSploogey: you say "1) If you really call those first two post chastising, you've lived a very sheltered life. "
Let's let the viewers decide for themselves whether your statements were chastising:
"Bigv, seriously, your in the wrong section, go to the soil section. Thats bullshit, unless you have the numbers to back it up. Had weed from both methods, never ever ever found this to be true.:"
So you get to express your opinion, but he can't. you say bullshit, and then tell him to piss off out of "your" forum" area.
Then when someone tries to defend bigv, you jump on their shit and say:
"First off, if he came here asking that question, he came here to ask the hydro growers their take on it, not a dirt farmer, so no, wrong fucking section. You make a whole thread on a troll then go around trolling, your a dirt farmer, wtf are you even doing in the hydro section? Need converts? If he wanted the soil growers take on it, guess what, he could go to that section and get it, so again, WRONG FUCKING SECTION. Stop being an ass and go back to your soil section. "
So your stating that a soil grower can't post an opinion in a hydro section, which is wrong, you go on and on about this. and you start throwing around "fucking, and ass, and all kinds of expletives" in your statements. Why can't a dirt farmer express his opinion again??? I'm confused.

And that's not chastising?
Perhaps you need a definition to assist your slightly slow brain:
Chastise: 1. To criticize severely; rebuke 2. to scold severely
So your not scolding anyone in this thread huh? Wow. just wow.
 
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watchhowIdoit

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Raven must be the one who has lived a sheltered life if such a simple, reasonable post intimidated him so.....
Can anyone say Waco....is David Koresh in the house........
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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watchhowIdoit said:
Raven must be the one who has lived a sheltered life if such a simple, reasonable post intimidated him so.....
Can anyone say Waco....is David Koresh in the house........
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Him? I should stop making so many assumptions. I REALLY assumed this mod was a girl. A 15 year old girl at that.
 
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OldLuck

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ExtremeMetal43 said:
How come people are saying you can fit more plants per square foot with hydro than with soil. I understand the root mas is smaller so those dont take up much space but arent the plants the same size. I got a 2.5 ft x 3 ft space and I can comfortably fit 4 plants under a 400 in there in soil. What im asking is can i really fit more in there with hydro because with this strain after topping it gets wide I dont see how switching mediums can change how many plants you can fit in a given space....can someone explain the you can fit more plants in a given space w hydro concept.
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I am growing 7 plants in hydro in a 2x4 foot space. It is my first grow ever and I am only in the middle of my 3rd week. Hydro has been straight forward so far. Had a bad ppm meter and had nutes to high for about 3 days, and all I had to do was empty my 10 gal res and replace it with good ph water and let it run for a day and then I just started slowly adding back nutes until I got them back to where I needed them to be. Never had to spend more then 10 mins on any one thing since I put the plants in it. If I don't have to add water every 2 days then I am just looking at them grow in amazement every day. I can't compare soil vs hydro, but I can tell you that me having never grown anything before I am feeling pretty comfortable right now in my grow. I know I have tons of stuff to learn, but only spending minimal time on my garden I have more time to come in here and learn. I think both farmers have good ideals and knowledge and I can apply both sides as needed. PH and ppm's have been easy to maintain or fix so far. Thanks guys for all of your imput.
 
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