Why I'm voting NO on prop. 19

N!pples said:

It does not sound THAT bad to me... I don’t have children nor do I feel the need to smoke near or in front of them... I can wait till the children are away! That should change my mind? I don’t need to smoke it in the streets or public either! I just want to be able to smoke in peace with 21 and over friends and this will be possible if you can refrain from doing so in front of children, in the car or on the streets... Arguing this on a Marijuana growing site is so funny to me.. All these hidden agendas! People are crazy! Yes this means YOU!

N!ps

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Like I said earlier, I CAN smoke anywhere smoking is permitted. Why can't you or your friends.

You lost me when you started typing.

N!pples I completely agree with you, people like veggigardener want to prevent our access for there own benefit, thats just pathetic, it makes my blood boil.

Nobody should be smoking around minors or kids by the way in my opinion, that part of the law doesnt effect me. You wanna get high in public? COOL! EAT SOME BROWNIES!

You wanna sell to someone under 18? Well, your going to prison. Sounds like the local dealers are completely fucked.

underplay said:

N!pples I completely agree with you, people like veggigardener want to prevent our access for there own benefit, thats just pathetic, it makes my blood boil.

Nobody should be smoking around minors or kids by the way in my opinion, that part of the law doesnt effect me. You wanna get high in public? COOL! EAT SOME BROWNIES!

You wanna sell to someone under 18? Well, your going to prison. Sounds like the local dealers are completely fucked.

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Why don't nipples and underplay go and start another thread. it can be on why to vote yes instead of telling ones who obviously believe otherwise differently?

Waste of time much?

miteubhi? said:

Why don't nipples and underplay go and start another thread. it can be on why to vote yes instead of telling ones who obviously believe otherwise differently?

Waste of time much?

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He asked for opinions, so i gave him mine.

I will give another one, he should change the thread title to "Why I'm a douche bag and you should go to jail"

underplay said:

He asked for opinions, so i gave him mine.

I will give another one, he should change the thread title to "Why I'm a douche bag and you should go to jail"

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Why would I go to jail? I cultivate medical cannabis legally for 5 people.

Sure, you wont go to jail, but teh average joe who wants to smoke, they will go to jail, and you only give a shit about yourself, so, go fuck yourself.

Prop. 19 makes it perfectly clear that the Initiative does NOT give municipalities any control over how medical marijuana patients obtain their medicine or how much they can possess and cultivate as the purpose of the legislation was to exempt the CUA and the MMP from local government reach. Whatever control municipalities have over patients and collectives is limited by the CUA and the MMP, not by Prop. 19.

Prop. 19 makes it perfectly clear that the Initiative does NOT give municipalities any control over how medical marijuana patients obtain their medicine or how much they can possess and cultivate as the purpose of the legislation was to exempt the CUA and the MMP from local government reach. Whatever control municipalities have over patients and collectives is limited by the CUA and the MMP, not by Prop. 19.

Prop. 19 makes it perfectly clear that the Initiative does NOT give municipalities any control over how medical marijuana patients obtain their medicine or how much they can possess and cultivate as the purpose of the legislation was to exempt the CUA and the MMP from local government reach. Whatever control municipalities have over patients and collectives is limited by the CUA and the MMP, not by Prop. 19.

Boom, you guys who are claiming that medical mj is under attack from prop 19, are completely wrong and are spreading shit around thats suppressing everything the mj movement has worked for the past 100 years.

no one goes to jail for smoking or posessing under a ounce there fella... I like how you use the word movement, with out knowing anything about it... be gone homie...

besides the name, were els in the props literature dose it say legal or legalization.It doesnt..all it take about is taxes and regulations.Becuase thats all it does. This bill was not made to leaglize mj the only reason it in the title is to get people exited.this bill is designed to sipmly charge people outrageous taxes to smoke and grow weed. WHY DO WE NEED GOVERNMET APPROVAL

underplay said:

veggiegardener, you have failed to prove many of your points previously in this thread. What you are voting no against is the freedom of your fellow country-men. Thats pathetic, and in my opinion, you don't deserve to grow medically or not, if your for the restriction of freedom.

My belief is that you have something to personally gain, I just read over the bill, its not perfect, but absolutely awesome. prices are going to drop, quality will rise. Medical patients will benefit enormously, well, the ones who are not for profit, those who like to rip other people off, are fucked.

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You are wrong. Nothing I say will change a closed mind. I've made the points if only you have the courage to maintain an inquiring mind and do your research.

All I ask is that you do the reading to truly understand the situation.

I think nearly all the pro voters are very young, and haven't seen how governments and justice systems can twist a law until it is unrecognizable.(Think Marihuana Tax Act).

I've already done the reading, and its blatantly obvious medical users will gain tremendously and so will non-medical users.

underplay said:

He asked for opinions, so i gave him mine.

I will give another one, he should change the thread title to "Why I'm a douche bag and you should go to jail"

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Still don't want to do the reading?

Won't you don't know can't hurt you?

I'm here to tell you, that isn't true.

I'd rather wait a bit longer, rather than give government more opportunities to fuck us all.

I really hope you all get to go through what I've been through.

It would serve you right.

Ignorance is rewarded.

man what the fuck i would do to be able to have a 25 by 25 square foot area...that is bigger than my room! plus i heard this is a big push for minorities who often cannot afford to become a mmj patient...and they are the higher proportion of citizens being arrested for marijuana related crimes (pretty sure its around 80%)

i am also from a state where it is still completely illegal so i have to go completely under the radar

veggiegardener said:

Still don't want to do the reading?

Won't you don't know can't hurt you?

I'm here to tell you, that isn't true.

I'd rather wait a bit longer, rather than give government more opportunities to fuck us all.

I really hope you all get to go through what I've been through.

It would serve you right.

Ignorance is rewarded.

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Ok, go ahead, start quoting the bill word for word and prove your point, you have nothing to back up your claims, nothing.

mr.swishas&herb said:

man what the fuck i would do to be able to have a 25 by 25 square foot area...that is bigger than my room! plus i heard this is a big push for minorities who often cannot afford to become a mmj patient...and they are the higher proportion of citizens being arrested for marijuana related crimes (pretty sure its around 80%)

i am also from a state where it is still completely illegal so i have to go completely under the radar

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Yea man, i completely agree, its awesome. Not to mention there are plenty of loop-holes in the bill to grow more, and it never says how much each plant has to contain, you can have 2 lb plants 20 feet high as long as its in the sized area.

underplay said:

I've already done the reading, and its blatantly obvious medical users will gain tremendously and so will non-medical users.

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You are 100% wrong. Medical users will get the shaft. Especially those belonging to small co-ops. Their growers will be replaced by Corporate producers.

DO THE READING!

Read all the laws pertaining Prop 215 and AB 420.

What you'll eventually find is that Medical co-ops will be eliminated in favor of pot stores.

You'll pay $100/eighth or higher in two years.

OR

You'll be back on the street, looking for a cheaper better product.

underplay said:

Yea man, i completely agree, its awesome. Not to mention there are plenty of loop-holes in the bill to grow more, and it never says how much each plant has to contain, you can have 2 lb plants 20 feet high as long as its in the sized area.

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Make the walls solid on your 25 sq. ft. space. One leaf out of place will get you a fine and/or jail time.

That 25 sq. ft. limit is ALL this law is about.

veggiegardener said:

You are 100% wrong. Medical users will get the shaft. Especially those belonging to small co-ops. Their growers will be replaced by Corporate producers.

DO THE READING!

Read all the laws pertaining Prop 215 and AB 420.

What you'll eventually find is that Medical co-ops will be eliminated in favor of pot stores.

You'll pay $100/eighth or higher in two years.

OR

You'll be back on the street, looking for a cheaper better product.

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You are a complete liar, prop 19 does not prevent any rights that prop 215 gives. Your spreading dis-information.

Why dont you give this article a read and educate yourself instead of spreading bullshit for your own personal gain.

http://hightimes.com/blog/evan/6681?utm_source=rss_home

Medical users can still grow according to prop 215, prop 19 does not effect you if your a medical card holder, well ok, it does. It gives you more rights.

mr.swishas&herb said:

man what the fuck i would do to be able to have a 25 by 25 square foot area...that is bigger than my room! plus i heard this is a big push for minorities who often cannot afford to become a mmj patient...and they are the higher proportion of citizens being arrested for marijuana related crimes (pretty sure its around 80%)

i am also from a state where it is still completely illegal so i have to go completely under the radar

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Don't read well?

I think you're probably going to be surprised when you read that bill and realize it is 25 square feet. Not 625 sq. ft.(Twice the space I currently use).