No matter how hard you try you can not beat Mother Nature. Wood is a annual plant....All that forcing and etc. that guys do inside is ridiculous and a waste of time and money. Start inside....Finish out side. The only thing good about indoors is not being caught as easy. Mother nature has nurtured thoundsands of plants for BILLIONS of years....Nothing man can do will ever beat that. The cost of expensive lights, monthly power, expensive hydro nutes, fans, CO2 tanks, filters, a/c&heaters and etc. damn near make inside growing not worth it.....Especially given the yields are alot smaller indoors. Outside all you need is FREE outdoor soil, compost, dolemite lime, and water.
Why is Indo Bud Better Then Out?
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treemansbuds
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Good outdoor weed ALWAYS gets me "Higher" and for a longer period vs. indoor weed. I do both, same strains in and out and I enjoy the out much better. How can you beat mother nature?
new grower uk
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Depends where you live, im in england so outdoors not as good because its frosty and damp as it gets to 12/12
Brick Top
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That might actually sound feasible if grow lights put out equal amounts of light and as full range of the light spectrum as the sun. You grossly underestimate the intensity of the sun. Even on a cloudy day the sun can put more light on plants during hours of daylight than someone can with what would be like a birthday candle amount of light in comparison to the sun using a 24 hour light cycle.
It is true that it is dependent on what part/area/region of the world someone lives in. Some areas are not at all conducive to outdoor growing of even fast flowering strains. But if in an are that is conducive to outdoor growing, outdoor will beat indoor every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
It was mentioned that indoor plants have more trichomes, become frostier. Well, again that would depend on where someone would be growing outdoors. If in an area of high UV-B rays and or low humidity their outdoor plants will be as thick with resin-filled trichomes as fleas on an Alabama hound dog.
I live in the Southern U.S. and while I will not claim it to be the most optimal area for outdoor growing, when I grow plants in pots on my deck not all that long into flowering they look like we had an ice storm, they are covered with glistening trichomes. Very often even the large fan leaves will at least partially be thick with trichomes, and I am not just talking about White strains either.
There is no singular correct answer to the question is growing indoors or outdoors better because it all comes down to where someone lives. In some parts of the world a person will definitely be able do better growing indoors and in other parts of the world someone will definitely be able to do better growing outdoors.
If you meant that when growing indoors you have the ability to flower at any given point of the year regardless of what the normal length of a day would be at that time of the year what you said would make sense. But comparing indoor growing to outdoor growing means you are growing outdoors during the normal natural outdoor growing season. That means days will naturally grow shorter and when the become 12 hours long or less flowering will begin. But at that point and time in the growing season that would be the; "normal full day's sun," as you put it. There would be no need or reason to cut it back any farther than that if growing indoors so your comparison or point is invalid. If you meant cutting the hours of light down to 11 or 10 hours, in most cases that would not cause any gain and instead create a loss. In the case of true pure equatorial sativas 11 hours of light and 13 hours of darkness is best, but few people grow true pure equatorial sativas. For everything else the additional hour of light will be a plus.
Since resin, and cannabinoids and terpenoids begin to be produced right after the formation of trichomes why would someone want to wait to attempt to increase resin, cannabinoid and terpenoid production until; "near the end" of flowering? Wouldn't it make more sense to attempt to maximize resin and cannabinoid and terpenoid production all through the flowering stage of growth?
Also, since anyone growing indoors with HID lighting will normally use a HPS bulb for flowering increasing the length of hours of light will not make much difference in the production of resin and THC. UVB light rays, something there are a lot of outdoors, are what cause increased resin production and THC production, and HPS lighting hardly puts out any UV rays at all.
If someone wants to; "pump up resin production" as much as they can indoors, if using HID lighting, they need to add MH lighting to their HPS during flower, 2:1 HPS to MH, or better yet add UV-B lighting during flower by adding reptile aquarium lighting to their HPS lighting and also keep their humidity level low, and it is senseless to wait until; "near the end" of flowering to do that and only gain a little when instead it can be done all through the flowering stage and more will be gained.
I never understand the mentality of some where they think the best way to grow, the best way to get maximum resin, cannabinoid and terpenoid production from their plants is to wait until; "near the end" of flowering and only then attempt to squeeze additional amounts out of their plants. Since these things have been proven to increase resin, cannabinoid and terpenoid production why, if say someone is growing a 10 week strain, would it make any sense to only do those things for the last week or two weeks or even three weeks when they could be done for all 10 weeks ... or if an 8 week strain, why only do them the last week or the last two or three weeks when instead they could be done for a full 8 weeks?
Do people actually believe that doing those things will only produce positive effect on plants; "near the end" of flowering and not all through the flowering period? If so, why?
sickleg
Member
Indoor is WAAAY easier to get caught. Dude come on... Outdoor is almost risk free unless you're doing a shit ton of plants.
you made my day.. cheers
Brick Top
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I love to grow outdoors but what you said is really debatable. Depending on where someone lives outdoors can be very risky. Nosy cranky neighbors that don't like you, electric meter readers every month, if you are like me and have heat pumps and need them serviced now and then you have service people around. One year a tax appraiser was walking around my house and I had 8 plants in pots on my deck. They were partially or fully blocked from sight when he was in some areas walking around my house but at one point he glanced at them and then his head spun back and he gave them a good look .. and I was not sure if he knew for sure what they were and if so if he might rat me out. I was going to harvest in another day or two so I risked it and left them and then took them down. Not that it would be any better to be caught with a crop but at least once not on my deck and instead drying inside I figured if a cop 'just by chance happened to drive by and scope my place out' without them being on my deck anymore I was way better off and I doubted that on the word of a tax appraiser the cops could get a warrant so while a bit uncomfortable for a couple days I didn't freak.
But you never know who might spot an outdoor plant or plants. I knew a guy that had a tall stockade fence around his entire backyard. He grew up against the fence in a location where neither neighbor on either side could see his plants from their houses. He got busted after someone from up the block was looking for their lost cat and was going up and down the block checking people's yards. He opened the gate to peek in the yard to see if the cat was there and spotted the plants and didn't like the idea of what he assumed was a drug dealer living on his block, so he called the cops.
Unless someone lives in a very rural area, without any neighbors close, and has a large piece of property so they can grow a good ways away from their home, or on government land or someone else's land, there is always a degree of risk, and a different degree of risk, when growing outdoors than growing indoors.
Each has risks, but it is not like outdoors is any safer for many people and might instead be less safe.
Illumination
New Member
BT your great logic tempered with common sense is such an awesome and rare treat here...thank you my friend
Namaste'
treemansbuds
Well-Known Member
What's the verdict? in or out?i have a few jars full of INDOOR and OUTDOOR "ice cream" from paradise seeds. i'm am fully capable of settling this right now.
Brick Top
New Member
I have my moments.BT your great logic tempered with common sense is such an awesome and rare treat here...thank you my friend
Namaste'
EXACTLY!!! Doing almost 200 plants. No need to bullshit outside. Especially when you can surround your plants with several rows of corn or similar tall plants.
new grower uk
Active Member
But normal people on normal urban areas have small gardens where neighbors can smell and see it very easyly, only people i know who been caught were trying it in their gardens
gangacreator
Member
The Afghan kush black domina cross i grew last year outdoor was the best weed ive smoked by far so cristally and smelt a mile away, even better then the jack herer, kush and blueberry thats grown indoors around here
Gopedxr
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This is a sweet thread! I dont know what the deal is but everyone wants indoor or hydro green house these days they controlled enviorment. I have had some outdoor stuff that put me on me on my knees haha or stuck on a rock at lake tahoe couldent move. But i dont know my friends closest is looking wicked and the plants look healthy as hell. Let me see if i can get a pic.
poplars
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everyone who has had the opprotunity to try lots of indoor vs lots of outdoor knows that the best outdoor beats the best indoor unless you like strong flavor + short high.... outdoor doesn't have as strong of flavor but it has a much longer duration of the high which is why I enjoy it much more, besides the yeilds and it being natural.
no doubt some places are bad for outdoor growing, making indoor more ideal... but in places like northern-california where the climate is absolutely perfect for outdoor growing... I've tried lots of indoor bud, and none of it beats the best outdoor I've had out here...
no doubt some places are bad for outdoor growing, making indoor more ideal... but in places like northern-california where the climate is absolutely perfect for outdoor growing... I've tried lots of indoor bud, and none of it beats the best outdoor I've had out here...
poplars
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for some proof here's my last years outdoor bud, chitowns sour kush... .most crystally dank outdoor strain I've ever had, fucks me up more than any bud I've had to this day...
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