Why Is The Bible So Revered As The "Word of GOD"?

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mindphuk

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Beansly said:
Your confusing critical thinking with "book smarts."
Critical thinking is the ability to extrapolate an objective opinion from a subjective statement, and give your own opinion without diluting it (or defeating it in your guy's case) with emotional statements (like cursing and name calling) and opinions.
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Actually no. I am not the confused one here.
Even if you could back everything you say with facts, you're demeaning your argument by becoming emotional. The ability to know that, is critical thinking...smart guy
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Wow, so if you claim your opponent is emotional you get to win the debate? Merely asserting your opponent is emotional and therefore weak is a poor substitute for actually attacking the substance of a post but I guess when that's all you got...

My critical thinking skills, so far, have been shown to be greater than the sum total of all the know-it-all's in here screaming at me "GOD ISN'T REAL!!!" with tears in their eyes.
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Except the part where you give an incorrect definition for critical thinking. As well as the strawman you just made there.

I had daddy issues too you guys, I got over it.
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Ah yes, the ad hominem, seemingly the most abundant arrow in the quiver of the theist.

Why does it anger you SO much that I have a personal relationship with The Creator, or the idea that he/she would want to talk to me?:roll:
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More accusations about the emotions of your opponents. Even if I was angry at you, it doesn't support your delusion.
I don't feel sorry for you people because you don't have a God or whatever; it's cause you have nothing to turn when all else fails. All you have is your little existence, and your little perception of how everything is and isn't, and your fragile human spirit. God help you when the shit goes down as they say. We'll see who's stronger and who goes running to who's side when shit get's REALLY bad. I promise you there wont be any Christians converting to atheists.
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So you agree then that most people believe this nonsense because of fear and not logic and reason.
 
KlosetKing

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Beansly said:
Sir.
what's the name of this thread?
It's not "why are atheists retarded?" or something.
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More insults, your just as good at this as BB.
Beansly said:
It's a challenge.

It's a challenge to anyone to explain when the bible is so revered.
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No, it was a question, by someone who came off as an atheist i might add.

Beansly said:
If anyone started shit it was you guys.
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Once again, wrong. Go back and read the thread PLEASE. I don't know why i have to say it so many goddamn times. HE started with the insults. Get with the program.

Beansly said:
And yeah we say it's the truth because to us it is the truth an we'll tell it to anyone that wants to listen. The truth to you is that God doesn't exist an you guy try just as hard to prove your point.
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The truth is not how YOU see it. The truth requires facts. What you have is belief not truth. What is so hard to understand about that?

Beansly said:
But Jesus even says that if people don't want to hear you preach, then move on to the next house/town. Whoever these people are that are hounding you with religion (you make it sound like the Christian paparazzi is after you) aren't true Christians.
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Duh, we said multiple times the ones in question (in regards to that) are usually JW's and Mormons. Christians are the 'lethargic of the faithful'. They live life by enough gray areas, they tend to not be too oppressing anymore.

Beansly said:
For me it's more about spreading Christ through example than by arguing endless semantics. 'the bible say this'---'this scientist said that'...
To me either you believe or you don't.
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You still misunderstand. This isn't about faith, its about representing your faith as scientific fact. It isn't, why cant you understand this?

Beansly said:
The fact that you can't even respect my POV is the reason I keep it up with you. It's ok tho. I kinda like arguing with the pig-headed. It's a good way to keep my chops up for serious debate.
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Insult me, tell me i cant provide meaningful debate, then say that the combination of those things keep your skills honed? Im truly lost now. I respect your point of view (opinion) all i need to. What i don't respect is misrepresentation.

Beansly said:
You call me a troll because of what?
Every personal remark I've made has been in response to another.
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Lies. You have insulted me twice now sir. Please, go back and show me where i started it.

Beansly said:
I know because the way I win these arguments is NOT to fight or start flaming.
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Really? Cuz if i went back and quoted everything youve said since you joined this thread, im betting it would contradict that.

Beansly said:
I don't ant to have to document each one but I will if you don't believe me.
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Please do! Because i havnt insulted you sir, but you have insulted me several times. Your the one feeling hurt and offended here and lashing back out, not I. I am not so insecure in by beliefs.

Beansly said:
I said that because it seems really childish that your using a thread full of anonymous people's statements
and somehow use that to prove your agenda.
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And yet you use a book full of anonymous peoples 'stories' and reference it as fact to back your faith up? Your hipocrisy never ends.

Beansly said:
Like where in any serious academic circle would forum banter hold up as an argument?
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And for ONCE you say something i agree with. Holy shit.

Beansly said:
Christ on cracker...
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Is that like, a Jesus Snack? Comes with the wine at communion right?
 
Harrekin

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So BB, you still aint answered the fact we actually have "transitional links" in our bodies right now. God just give us these pointless organs/skeletal structures for the laugh?

Is it not possible that a "higher power" just lit the fuse to the Big Bang? Or that "God" set the evolution ball rolling?

Fossils are extremely rare as they require very exact conditions to form, its the same reason why graveyards never actually fill up ;)

Im agnostic btw, so Im not agreeing or disagreeing with anyones beliefs, but saying evolution never happened (and isnt happening right now) is just foolish, faith or not.

And believing the Bible word for word is even more foolish, a priest or a minister would be the first person to tell you the Bible should NOT be taken word for word, its supposed to be more of a guideline book to ensure people lived good lives. And these people have degrees in theology, I doubt you do.

Also just as a sidenote to all the Christians on here...your aware the Old Testiment is actually a Jewish sacred scripture, right?
 
KlosetKing

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Harrekin said:
So BB, you still aint answered the fact we actually have "transitional links" in our bodies right now. God just give us these pointless organs/skeletal structures for the laugh?

Is it not possible that a "higher power" just lit the fuse to the Big Bang? Or that "God" set the evolution ball rolling?

Fossils are extremely rare as they require very exact conditions to form, its the same reason why graveyards never actually fill up ;)

Im agnostic btw, so Im not agreeing or disagreeing with anyones beliefs, but saying evolution never happened (and isnt happening right now) is just foolish, faith or not.

And believing the Bible word for word is even more foolish, a priest or a minister would be the first person to tell you the Bible should NOT be taken word for word, its supposed to be more of a guideline book to ensure people lived good lives. And these people have degrees in theology, I doubt you do.

Also just as a sidenote to all the Christians on here...your aware the Old Testiment is actually a Jewish sacred scripture, right?
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Very well said sir. Your ideas and beliefs fall almost exactly into mine. I am also agnostic, and i merely see the Big Bang, evolution, Math, you name it, as all being merely tools the 'creator' used.

To say there is NO god is as foolish as blindly believing that 'his' hand is in every action WE take every day.

Ive said it a thousand times. Science is not in the business of 'disproving god'. It's in the business of removing 'opinion', replacing it with DATA, and drawing educated decisions therein. So again I ask BB and others, why is religion so bent on disproving science?

Simple: Science WANTS to be wrong. Its how it betters itself.

Religion, doesn't benefit from being wrong, at ALL.
 
BrotherBuz

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KlosetKing said:
". . . ive gotten bored with BB. Have i cussed at him? Sure, but at that point it was LONG after HE threw out insults. Read the fucking thread man, he is ALWAYS the one to start with insults.
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I have read the post, and its clear to all who should read the Fucking thread-klosetman! ;-)


mindphuk said:
You're fucking delusional.
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Hey Klosetman, this is Post #61, which illustrates your "mentor" hurling the very first insult at me. :sleep:
 
mindphuk

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BrotherBuz said:
I have read the post, and its clear to all who should read the Fucking thread-klosetman! ;-)


Hey Klosetman, this is Post #61, which illustrates your "mentor" hurling the very first insult at me. :sleep:
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Nice red herring. Now maybe no one will notice all of the posts that you have avoided answering.
 
Padawanbater2

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Neanderthal?

Not yet homo sapien.

Transition from our earlier ape ancestors and current humans.

More than 100 have been discovered.

How do you explain that?

Seems pretty cut and dry if you can't, you lose.

Take your time...
 
BrotherBuz

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mindphuk said:
Now maybe no one will notice all of the posts that you have avoided answering.
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You mean the post I asked you to provide concerning a transitioning amphibian pelvis bone, since it’s needed to advance from the sea to land. Also, it's one of many links need to substantiate the Theory of Evolution. As I said before, I don't want you to provide videos of fully developed skulls or skeletons; instead, small graduations in skeletal formation are what we are looking for. ;-)

Now I'm going to give the viewers another chance to see what a "dodger" you are, by asking you to provide just one, transitioning amphibian pelvis bone, since according to the theory of evolution, there should be literally thousands.
 
KlosetKing

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BrotherBuz said:
^^^

Sir, don't sit there like a stuck-up chicken with egg on your face. Your protégé got caught in a lie, face it. LOL
Hey Klosetman, this is Post #61, which illustrates your "mentor" hurling the very first insult at me. :sleep:
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Sir, how dare you call me a liar. You are only now molding your definition of an insult. Saying your being delusional is a personal insult is it? Well by that definition, you technically started it 4 posts before that, Post 57 (4 posts before calling you delusional):

BrotherBuz said:
What are the odds that this copper scroll, the book of Issah, read today as it did then, 2,000 year-ago?
Now, when you take your head out of your ass, you think about that!!
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Frankly, its just as much of a personal insult by YOUR definition. Twist it all you want, call me a liar all you want, but your wrong, plain and simple.

To be clear, i still wouldn't call either of those insults, you calling him Dumbphuk was the first true insult. Those posts, are hostility at MOST. But the facts are right in front of your face. Call it what you want, insult, hostility, 'temper', whatever, YOU started it.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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BrotherBuz said:
You mean the post I asked you to provide concerning a transitioning amphibian pelvis bone, since it’s needed to advance from the sea to land. Also, it's one of many links need to substantiate the Theory of Evolution. As I said before, I don't want you to provide videos of fully developed skulls or skeletons; instead, small graduations in skeletal formation are what we are looking for. ;-)

Now I'm going to give the viewers another chance to see what a "dodger" you are, by asking you to provide just one, transitioning amphibian pelvis bone, since according to the theory of evolution, there should be literally thousands.
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You have already been provided with the evidence. It is up to you to refute it. When you keep asking for something that has been given to you, it becomes clear you don't understand it.

It is now up to you to explain in detail why those small changes in skeletal formation are not good enough for you. How about you detail for us the features of a pelvis that would satisfy you and your requirements? Should the acetabulum be shallow or deep? What about the position of the sciatic notch compared to a real amphibian? Would the iliac crest be wider or longer?

I don't think you can tell the difference between an amphibian pelvis and and a coffee mug let alone a pelvis that has features of both amphibians and reptiles. Why should anyone listen to you tell them what a pelvis should or should not look like in a transition species?

So far I think the viewers have already concluded you are not only a dodger but don't understand what you are talking about and trying to discuss something you don't understand just makes you sound stupid. You sound like you think a transitional animal changes its form and morphs into something else like in a cartoon.
 
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