Wasn't this the very Idea of what the Incoming Regime suggested in allocating more funds to help pay for Health CareShit man you post alot, how about posting all those sentences in the same thread..
I'd have to say I agree with ya on that note, I use to be almost 300lb fat ass now thanks to my 2 year meth binge (JOKING, I live and eat healthy now) weigh 143lbs and yeah fat plp are a prob too, shit they should have to pay more since their care costs more.
Just like plp that smoke cigs, drink booze alot, ect.. All those shitty life stlyes should cost that person not the rest of us.
Im not a vegitirian that drives a hybrid either LOL, I eat meat every day and dirve a gass guzzling SUV (and love it other than 8-12MPG with 93oct SUCKS). But I have decent health, and I've never taken welfare or unemployment.![]()
Do you ride the Short BusIt was a rhetorical question to begin with, and you don't get fined for having insurance.
You are basically telling me that you having a right to choose is bad, mandatory insurance is good, fines if you don't have insurance are ok, and that I don't support any kind of insurance reform.
And you got all that from me saying it's mandatory.
Semper Fi NoDrama. It's just so hard to explain to some people. There is just no honor, courage, commitment. We don't want to adopt the policies of other countries. He want to stay America.
What policies have worked in other countries? Why are we known as the best country on the planet? It's certainly not because we follow europe. We stand alone and that's what makes us great.ROFL! No, sir, we sure don't want to adopt policies that ACTUALLY WORK, do we?
We'd rather stay the United Clusterfuck of America. Good old U.S of A that never gets anything done.
By the way, you DO realize that our current health care system is just a mishmosh of policies from other countries, right?
We aren't asking for a completely new system, just ONE system that works for EVERYONE.
Dude do you even travel???? People not still thinking how great USA is..Was a time when we were number one..I hope that we get back that way. There is an old saying "no man stands alone for no man is an island". The thinking that this country is "so great we can't fall Fuck you We AMerican" is the reason we are falling ..Answer me this what the hell was the last thing you bought that was made in america...Look around your house and tell me how American are you ??? lol makes me laugh the mentality of some( not all) Americans. Hey keep yelling USA USA USA sounds great at the Olympics..Travel dude is all I can say.Might open your eyes. Hey heres a exchange rate for dollar vs Euro.. http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/graph120.html ... tell me what you think... USA USA USAWhat policies have worked in other countries? Why are we known as the best country on the planet? It's certainly not because we follow europe. We stand alone and that's what makes us great.
If we didn't get anything done would we be here today? We are the leaders in the world. We have created so many things that the world would never have dreamed of. We do have a mix of ideas from everywhere, but we take them to the next level. American ingenuity.
We have a free market healthcare system. Socialized medicine was started after WW2 and never ended. It wasn't supposed to work in time of peace, and it shows by how bankrupt every country is who have it.
That ONE system would be controlled by the government. It would decrease competition, decrease productivity, and decrease quality. It is never a good thing when the government takes control. It shows how sneaky this president is when he wanted this bill passed before the August recess, knowing it was a 1000+ pages and knowing the majority would not read it. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hx3ycMDTfw4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hx3ycMDTfw4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
How do you figure that every country that has a socialized medicine is bankrupt? Well I guess other than every country that has a working health care system has some sort of socialization of it.What policies have worked in other countries? Why are we known as the best country on the planet? It's certainly not because we follow europe. We stand alone and that's what makes us great.
If we didn't get anything done would we be here today? We are the leaders in the world. We have created so many things that the world would never have dreamed of. We do have a mix of ideas from everywhere, but we take them to the next level. American ingenuity.
We have a free market healthcare system. Socialized medicine was started after WW2 and never ended. It wasn't supposed to work in time of peace, and it shows by how bankrupt every country is who have it.
As there is currently nothing there now, there is nothing that would be competitive at this point in time. That is the problem. Again, there is no insurance that is covering this group now, so this is a way to put something there. So how can you decrease productivity when it is zero as it is?That ONE system would be controlled by the government. It would decrease competition, decrease productivity, and decrease quality. It is never a good thing when the government takes control. It shows how sneaky this president is when he wanted this bill passed before the August recess, knowing it was a 1000+ pages and knowing the majority would not read it.
What policies have worked in other countries? Why are we known as the best country on the planet?
HAHAHA!! Known by whom? Please, who thinks we're the best country on the planet besides people like you who don't know any better.
It's certainly not because we follow europe. We stand alone and that's what makes us great.
If we didn't get anything done would we be here today? We are the leaders in the world. We have created so many things that the world would never have dreamed of. We do have a mix of ideas from everywhere, but we take them to the next level
If the "next level" is measure of insanity, then you're correct. What we've really done is take a bunch of different systems that work and wrap them in so much red tap that they don't work anymore.
. American ingenuity.
We have a free market healthcare system. Socialized medicine was started after WW2 and never ended. It wasn't supposed to work in time of peace, and it shows by how bankrupt every country is who have it.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The US has the third largest debt of the G20 nations. We also spend about twice as much on health care per capita than countries with "socialized" health care systems, so if they're "bankrupt" it isn't because of health care costs.
Ironically, the US is the ONLY country in which CITIZENS are going bankrupt due to high medical costs.
AMEN I'm with you .. I didn't want to be the one that said it but when I travel I don't know anyone who likes the USA or thier policies!!!!!!!!!! They boom countries tell everyone how to live then tell them they are wrong ??? They you have the Balls to say your the best, what pot are you smoking bud???I don't want to burst your bubble but your not the best in the world and when your city was under water your President did nothing and has still you guys do nothing for your ppl . For the richest nation in the world why can't you look after your ppl health wise without taking them to the poor house? You rate 37 in the world as far as health care thats not number 1. peace out Headband707Dude do you even travel???? People not still thinking how great USA is..Was a time when we were number one..I hope that we get back that way. There is an old saying "no man stands alone for no man is an island". The thinking that this country is "so great we can't fall Fuck you We AMerican" is the reason we are falling ..Answer me this what the hell was the last thing you bought that was made in america...Look around your house and tell me how American are you ??? lol makes me laugh the mentality of some( not all) Americans. Hey keep yelling USA USA USA sounds great at the Olympics..Travel dude is all I can say.Might open your eyes. Hey heres a exchange rate for dollar vs Euro.. http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/graph120.html ... tell me what you think... USA USA USA![]()
Why is it people are coming on here making it sound like it's gonna be mandatory? When you tell them it won't be they don't respond.
Actually, my post wasn't directed at you in particular. I simply point to just about every post favoring the current health care proposal on this thread and with few exceptions, every other thread. But using ANY argument that includes how the europeans, canadians etc etc laugh at us, is pointless as their opinion on the matter is moot.I don't say anything to seem cool to some group of people in other countries I will never even see in my lifetime anyway. Hell I don't say anything to seem cool to anyone, that's a pretty dumb thing to even claim.
Misery loves company? Seriously? This is even dumber. You honestly think people from other countries are trying to give us incorrect advice and information just because... Forget it nevermind this is a waste of time.
Its the Politics section. Love it or leave it but be warned it CAN get heated.why are we talking about this sh*t on this web site? the govm***t sucks!
Perhaps thats your problem you don't listen or care about anyone but yourself ! Whats the point in agruing with ppl like you ?? Fuck keep your bullshit country pure whatever that mean lol .. We will all just smoke a joint and laugh at how stupid you look from this angle and every angle peace out everywhere Headband707I have noticed a commonality among almost every poster in favor of a National Health Care Program. You all argue from a position of how far this country has fallen, or how we aren't a desirable place to live anymore. Insulting (yes you are) our achievements and belittling our staggering contributions and charity to other nations. I know it makes you feel "trendy and european" to do so and I'm sure it goes over well with the people who travel in your circles. But to the self loathing (towards your own country) Americans, I gotta tell you, you are in a complete minority among the citizens of this country. And arguing from that position as to why we need a change (any change) is the LAST THING YOU SHOULD DO. It won't work... you're trying to ice skate uphill. You're free to do it of course, but you are sabotaging your own argument before you even get the motor running.
And to folks on here from other countries, while hearing your opinions is entertaining and all, make no mistake that a VAST majority of the US population couldn't care less what you think of us, as it should be. You don't live here, you don't matter in this debate... at all, nor does your opinion. We neither seek nor require your acceptance or approval on any of our domestic policies. Foreign policy is a different matter entirely and we may or may not consider your positions on those subjects, but again, only insomuch as it benefits THIS country. It may come off a little harshly, but most of your countries have extremely checkered pasts in how your government interacts with your populace. When I hear you guys giving advice, a single thought keeps coming to mind that seems to overpower any strength that may be in your arguments. "Misery loves company"... thanks but no thanks.
You're wrong if you think most americans don't support it. You are believing the wrong polls, polls can say anything you like when you only poll certain groups.What ever happened to the people who were all about QUESTION AUTHORITY? You don't seem to do so when your man is in charge. I don't give a damn what other countries think of us. Do you know how many people would like nothing better than the destruction of this country? We are the greatest nation, and I don't care what anybody else says. People are dying to get here, for obvious reasons. We may be in a recession, but hopefully the government leaves the free market to balance itself out, and we would be fine. What country is it that provides and discovers most of the cures for illness and disease? Us, with no help from the government. Though we may have problems, they are nothing to what the rest of the world is faced with. It's the lazy people who blame their faults on others, who are bringing this nation down. Work hard and anything is possible. Poll after poll has shown that the American people do not support socialized medicine, so why are people trying to force it on us? And for all those not in America, what are you trying to do. This has no effect on you, so let the American people decide their fates. We don't want this, never have and never will.