Will She crawl out from under the Trump Bus before it is too late to become a SCOTUS ever?

Friendly_Grower

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At the very least convict him of a crime that disqualifies him from ever holding office again. I think that is all they will get on him.
If it were me and I had even one classified document you know I would be in for ten years.

I have to admit we had four years of suffering his mental illness tweet by tweet and now so far we are treated to him spending four years trying to stay out of jail.

The RNC will not pay his legal bills if he announces he is running in 2024 before the Midterms.
Expect his announcement the day after or thereabouts.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
At the very least convict him of a crime that disqualifies him from ever holding office again. I think that is all they will get on him.
If it were me and I had even one classified document you know I would be in for ten years.

I have to admit we had four years of suffering his mental illness tweet by tweet and now so far we are treated to him spending four years trying to stay out of jail.

The RNC will not pay his legal bills if he announces he is running in 2024 before the Midterms.
Expect his announcement the day after or thereabouts.
The moment he announces he is running, the obvious question becomes, to where?
 

Lucky Luke

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I've been on the sidelines but I'm BACK for another action packed winter medical grow season.

So this Federal Judge doesn't know how the Intelligence Community works apparently.



What do you think? Was She making a move to become the youngest SCOTUS in history by deliberately throwing herself in front of the Trump Bus?

What is truly amazing is that people cannot see that they mean nothing to Trump. People are just noise to him. Something that gets in his way. He wipes his butt and tosses them aside and yet they line up to be used.

I'd like also to tell people about the MeidasTouch YouTube channel.
In the DOJ objection they give Judge Aileen Cannon an ultimatum. Yeah they are telling that Judge either go back and redo your decision or they will go over her head.
It turns out that Judge Aileen Cannon has actually ruled that the Intelligence Community cannot do their work. They are telling Judge Aileen Cannon that the responsibility for the protection of the USA is on her and she had better reverse herself.

So the next thing is Judge Aileen Cannon told the Trump team to respond by the 12th regarding the DOJ objection.

I know most rational people would believe she will do the partial reversal but this is Maga-Ville jurisdiction and she was appointed by Trump.
I'll put my money on Judge Aileen Cannon saying in essence "Make-Me."

What do Y'all think?
Welcome back. Happy grow.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
You should not ask questions such as this comrade ...
Not knowing how humorous this is meant to be,

I should. I reallyreallyshould. I view it as a civic duty to push back against the mainstremism that is emerging as that man’s empowering organization’s lasting doctrine.
 

Friendly_Grower

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About Mainstreamism:
I spent my years ten through fourteen in central Florida.
This is a place called Felsmere. There was a proper White town and a proper Black town back then.

I remember that the Whites were dirt poor and so were the Blacks however, the Whites were okay with it if the Blacks had it worse even if the Whites made sure they did.
I was thinking to suggest that the unrest in the Maga Party has it's gravity around those who MAGA thinks have it better such as the Queer community, people of Color, Women and add whatever you like to this list, while they (the MAGA') are seeing that they have it just as bad if not worse while being White.
Capitalism is what rules our lives not the color of our skin shall we say. At least in my opinion.

It is extremely ironic that the "dear leader" of the MAGA hates those MAGA supporters according to Howard Stern. I would tend to agree with Howard Stern.

I simply don't see a quick way to MAGA going away politically so I ask. What do y'all think is the right thing to do to the head of that snake that is the MAGA movement?
We have some time to kill until we find out what Team Trump feels about the DOJ's objection on Monday.
I figure the quick answer is years in prison which cannot happen because of the Secret Service detail and the imagery of the USA incarcerating it's former Presidents like a third world dictatorship.
I'm thinking it's better he fade away and not burn out rather than the opposite. What do you think?

By the way, I wonder if Team Trump will say that they object to the Classified Secret Documents belonging to the Government and say they belong to the Orange Blunder? If so then they will be admitting he stole them and that is all DOJ will need. Are they that dumb?

Again I think it is better he fades away rather than Burns out.

 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
About Mainstreamism:
I spent my years ten through fourteen in central Florida.
This is a place called Felsmere. There was a proper White town and a proper Black town back then.

I remember that the Whites were dirt poor and so were the Blacks however, the Whites were okay with it if the Blacks had it worse even if the Whites made sure they did.
I was thinking to suggest that the unrest in the Maga Party has it's gravity around those who MAGA thinks have it better such as the Queer community, people of Color, Women and add whatever you like to this list, while they (the MAGA') are seeing that they have it just as bad if not worse while being White.
Capitalism is what rules our lives not the color of our skin shall we say. At least in my opinion.

It is extremely ironic that the "dear leader" of the MAGA hates those MAGA supporters according to Howard Stern. I would tend to agree with Howard Stern.

I simply don't see a quick way to MAGA going away politically so I ask. What do y'all think is the right thing to do to the head of that snake that is the MAGA movement?
We have some time to kill until we find out what Team Trump feels about the DOJ's objection on Monday so, would years in prison which cannot happen because of the Secret Service detail and the imagery of the USA incarcerating it's former Presidents like a third world dictatorship, so I'm thinking it's better he fade away and not burn out rather than the opposite. What do you think?

By the way, I wonder if Team Trump will say that they object to the Classified Secret Documents belonging to the Government and say they belong to the Orange Blunder? If so then they will be admitting he stole them and that is all DOJ will need. Are they that dumb?

Again I think it is better he fades away rather than Burns out.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: feed him to the justice system.

… would years in prison which cannot happen because of the Secret Service detail and the imagery of the USA incarcerating it's former Presidents like a third world dictatorship,
I reject this as a just-so story. The pejorative at the end is fallacious.
 

Friendly_Grower

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: feed him to the justice system.


I reject this as a just-so story. The pejorative at the end is fallacious.
Edit: I quoted your whole wonderful reply but it only quoted that part. Not picking a conflict there.

That is a fine opinion @cannabineer

Like there are still followers of Hitler what do you believe is a political path towards enlightenment for the MAGA crowd? Hence my suggestion that it's better he fade away rather than become a full blown Cheeto Christ.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Edit: I quoted your whole wonderful reply but it only quoted that part. Not picking a conflict there.

That is a fine opinion @cannabineer

Like there are still followers of Hitler what do you believe is a political path towards enlightenment for the MAGA crowd? Hence my suggestion that it's better he fade away rather than become a full blown Cheeto Christ.

The third and most viable option is to shame him in criminal and civil court, observing the law with unswerving punctilio. No martyr that way.

And the only way he will fade away effectively is in solitary confinement.

Also, vids are useless as concept support. They are too manipulable. Cite text from a good source.
 

Friendly_Grower

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Well I agree @cannabineer that my previous two video links are manifestations of my creativity.
However, this MeidasTouch analysis presents something more on topic. Enjoy!

Like I said we have time to kill until Monday. Will Trump say he owns Government Documents or let the FBI continue with it's investigations.


EDIT: Typo correction
 
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cannabineer

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Well I agree @cannabineer that my previous two video links are manifestations of my creativity.
However, this MeidasTouch analysis presents something more on topic. Enjoy!

Like I said we have time to kill until Monday. Will Trump say he own Government Documents or let the FBI continue with it's investigations.

I see. Thank you.
 

Friendly_Grower

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The third and most viable option is to shame him in criminal and civil court, observing the law with unswerving punctilio. No martyr that way.

And the only way he will fade away effectively is in solitary confinement.

Also, vids are useless as concept support. They are too manipulable. Cite text from a good source.
I was watching YouTube video and realized there is a flaw in your argument.

What makes you think Donald Trump feels shame?
Well outside of that which his Father would have generated. Fred Trump was a cold hearted German who described absolute winning as being a Killer.
He wasn't even remorseful for contributing to the decline and premature death of he first born son Frederick Crist Trump Jr.

I have been researching Donald Trump.
The Mary Trump show is excellent to keep up with. Mary Trump is Frederick Crist Trump Jr. daughter.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I was watching YouTube video and realized there is a flaw in your argument.

What makes you think Donald Trump feels shame?
Well outside of that which his Father would have generated. Fred Trump was a cold hearted German who described absolute winning as being a Killer.
He wasn't even remorseful for contributing to the decline and premature death of he first born son Frederick Crist Trump Jr.

I have been researching Donald Trump.
The Mary Trump show is excellent to keep up with. Mary Trump is Frederick Crist Trump Jr. daughter.
Feeling shame is no requirement for his public shaming. What he senses is unimportant in comparison to harming (conferring shame on) his “brand”.

Definion 6 works here.

 

Friendly_Grower

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Okay so by now y'all know I read, watch and listen to a lot of different news sources.
Do we wonder where the contents of those empty classified document folders may have gone?
For your consideration. This is Trump leaving Mar-A-Largo ( which means bad lumber in Spanish ) with boxes and boxes and boxes as he gets on his private plane on his way to his Golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.
This is where he spends his Summers for these last two years.
Just an FYI in case no one has written about it yet.

Watch only if you like to.


Naturally unless we can see into those boxes we do not know for sure what is in them but hey, "boom there is it."
 

Friendly_Grower

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I think its more getting people to feel shame for supporting him, of all those people that voted for him, at least some have a sense of shame and there is a bridge to far.

No he doesn't have a sense of shame.
Yeah I don't know of any text or video evidence that Donald Trump feels shame. I have listened to Mary Trump and her show where she explains how harsh of an environment it was for those two boys.
To start with the Father Fred Trump was not a warm and loving father. He held the belief that absolute winning was all that mattered according to Mary Trump and this left it's effect on both of Fred's Sons.
The older son was Freddy Trump and he just wasn't that into the cut throat style of absolute winning. According to Mary she explained her father liked having friends and doing those social things people do but Donald took to Fred Trump Sr.'s philosophy and was all in on being what Fred Trump Sr. called being a "Killer."
In a different video on the evaluation of Donald Trump by Psychiatrists they also explain that during the most formative years of Donald's young life his mother was ill and she did not offer Donald the love and nurturing that a child needs to grow up mentally healthy.
In addition to this upbringing and after Military School Donald Trump attended a church where Success was the topic of the Sermons. The name of that Church escapes me at the moment but as we can infer Donald Trump is not a well adjusted human being.
So I agree he has had the human feeling of feeling Shame extracted or at least not nurtured in him. Also we know that he cannot accept losing at all and that is definitely psychopathy.

So yes he is not a normal human being.
 

Friendly_Grower

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Feeling shame is no requirement for his public shaming. What he senses is unimportant in comparison to harming (conferring shame on) his “brand”.

Definion 6 works here.

It didn't seem to work for Hitler and it would seem that people are falling out of Windows in Putin's Russia.
I'm not sure enough MAGAs' can feel shame either. Those people are anti Democracy and Pro Authoritarian.
I'm in Southern Illinois and there are many people who have sour face expressions when Trump is disrespected.
I would not call that accepting the shame of the brand.
Then again I'm not expert in such things.
Just sharing what I see.
 

cannabineer

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It didn't seem to work for Hitler and it would seem that people are falling out of Windows in Putin's Russia.
I'm not sure enough MAGAs' can feel shame either. Those people are anti Democracy and Pro Authoritarian.
I'm in Southern Illinois and there are many people who have sour face expressions when Trump is disrespected.
I would not call that accepting the shame of the brand.
Then again I'm not expert in such things.
Just sharing what I see.
I’m in the desert. We elected McCarthy, for grief’s sake.

Shaming does not require that the target feel a specific sentiment.
It is a semantic argument that is displaced when you focus on the sentiment, while I am more properly talking about consequence, which submits to more objective review.

Perhaps if I use instead “Loose” Cannon’s plangent phrase “reputational harm” …
 
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