Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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Roger A. Shrubber

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Not i'm just realistic, and i don't take medecine when i don't need it.
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other people need you to take it...everyone not vaccinated act as incubators when they get infected, and help produce new variants that just prolong the whole process. vaccinated people have fewer, more minor symptoms, that they recover from quickly. quicker recovery means less time for variants to spawn and be spread.
but...it's all about you, and your choice, and your rights...the rights of the immunocompromised don't matter, the rights of children who can't be immunized yet don't matter, the rights of those with other serious illnesses that could be severely impacted by a covid infection don't matter, because you're afraid of a needle, and a type of vaccine that's been under study for more than 40 years...
tell yourself whatever you need to, to be able to keep looking in the mirror, you're directly responsible for some of those deaths, it's statistically certain
 

DurumGallico

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You keep showing the same irrelevant, unreferenced, context-stripped graphs to support your unorthodox claims. Enough with that useless noise.
yes of course, cdc is irrelevant and makes unorthodox claims also.
Just do your research and find the same results, and maybe you'll change your mind.
 

DurumGallico

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other people need you to take it...everyone not vaccinated act as incubators when they get infected, and help produce new variants that just prolong the whole process. vaccinated people have fewer, more minor symptoms, that they recover from quickly. quicker recovery means less time for variants to spawn and be spread.
but...it's all about you, and your choice, and your rights...the rights of the immunocompromised don't matter, the rights of children who can't be immunized yet don't matter, the rights of those with other serious illnesses that could be severely impacted by a covid infection don't matter, because you're afraid of a needle, and a type of vaccine that's been under study for more than 40 years...
tell yourself whatever you need to to be able to keep looking in the mirror, you're directly responsible for some of those deaths, it's statistically certain
No you're wrong, vaccinated people also spread the disease... proven fact and you're still acting like it's not..
Beside that, restrictive laws force non vaccinated people to be isolated and let vaccinated people thinking they are safe without them. They're not,since (for the thousand time) they can get infected and spread, and lotof them act like it's not and actually spread way more than non vaccinated people isolated from social groups.

Fragile people has to protect themselves, from vaccinated people as much as non vaccinated people, as for any disease that would be harmless for others, exactly like covid. Not all the world population is vaccinated against flu and we don't blame non vaccinated people to kill immunocompromised people by spreading flu..
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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No you're wrong, vaccinated people also spread the disease... proven fact and you're still acting like it's not..
Beside that, restrictive laws force non vaccinated people to be isolated and let vaccinated people thinking they are safe without them. They're not,since (for the thousand time) they can get infected and spread, and lotof them act like it's not and actually spread way more than non vaccinated people isolated from social groups.

Fragile people has to protect themselves, from vaccinated people as much as non vaccinated people, as for any disease that would be harmless for others, exactly like covid. Not all the world population is vaccinated against flu and we don't blame non vaccinated people to kill immunodepressive people by spreading flu..
no, i'm right, but if that's what it takes for you to not feel like a murderer, keep telling yourself...
i didn't say vaccinated people can't spread the disease, i said they get over it faster, with milder symptoms, and that means less time for variants to breed.
and "fragile" people don't get to have any kind of life because it would inconvenience you? thats a pretty fucked up selfish attitude, how about you and everyone else get the shot, and then "fragile" people can lead semi normal lives, and not have to be reclusive hermits because selfish douchebags refuse to help end the pandemic they spend all day bitching about
 

CatHedral

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yes of course, cdc is irrelevant and makes unorthodox claims also.
Just do your research and find the same results, and maybe you'll change your mind.
A proper reference does not drop the name, it provides a single unambiguous address to the peer-reviewed academic literature.

Government publications, newspapers etc. are not subject to peer review. Neither are academic monographs, and many people don’t know that monographs are not peer-reviewed. Many a controversial hypothesis appeared as a monograph.

You appear to be painfully naïf regarding information hygiene.
 

CatHedral

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No you're wrong, vaccinated people also spread the disease... proven fact and you're still acting like it's not..
Beside that, restrictive laws force non vaccinated people to be isolated and let vaccinated people thinking they are safe without them. They're not,since (for the thousand time) they can get infected and spread, and lotof them act like it's not and actually spread way more than non vaccinated people isolated from social groups.

Fragile people has to protect themselves, from vaccinated people as much as non vaccinated people, as for any disease that would be harmless for others, exactly like covid. Not all the world population is vaccinated against flu and we don't blame non vaccinated people to kill immunocompromised people by spreading flu..
Remember India? Lots of non”fragile” people died. Your hypothesis is not fact-based.
 

DurumGallico

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no, i'm right, but if that's what it takes for you to not feel like a murderer, keep telling yourself...
i didn't say vaccinated people can't spread the disease, i said they get over it faster, with milder symptoms, and that means less time for variants to breed.
and "fragile" people don't get to have any kind of life because it would inconvenience you? thats a pretty fucked up selfish attitude, how about you and everyone else get the shot, and then "fragile" people can lead semi normal lives, and not have to be reclusive hermits because selfish douchebags refuse to help end the pandemic they spend all day bitching about
That's another subject, and still based on beliefs and not proven datas. Variants could also appears on vaccinated populations. But yes still not relevant for the subject.
Did you read my point ? The same people are as much threatened by a simple flu as covid, and as far as i know we don't blame all non vaccinated people against flu for killing immunocomprised people. And it would be as stupid as you calling killers non vaccinated people against covid.
 

DurumGallico

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Fogdog

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Not a single state near overwhelmed capacities.
In France it's the same, explosion of positive pcr tests in late december but no serious impact on health system, no improved death rate.
Gov. has destroyed thousands of beds and thousands of health professionals have been forced to quit because of their vaccination status. Each year for decades, heatlh pro. are on strike for the lack of money and staff. This year is not different from other years and NO, non vaccinated people are not the reason why pandemic is still there.
It's proven that vaccinated people still can spread and get the disease, and it's even more useless against omicron spreading. So useless that Israël is now changing his strategy and is now focusing on fragile people that are dying, a small part of population and certainly not young and healthy people, rather than the overall population. Which we all should have done for a long time now.


You are believing and falling in what looks like a cult way more than me.
In their own interests, businesses are making vaccines a requirement of employment. No more waves of people being out from Covid, protects people who are immune compromised and get rid of the dirty people who refuse the vaccine but swill down horse paste. Same goes with any and all other public activities like going to a restaurant or concert. It just makes sense.
 
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hanimmal

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It's not confusing statistically garbage, its reality. You're the believer since you did'nt bring a single thing to support your points.
I never said 'confusing', it is cherry picked statistical shitcannery Death Cult noise.

Also lmao at some new Death cult sock puppet account with ... 120 posts telling me that I 'didn't bring a single thing to support (my) points'.

 

printer

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That's another subject, and still based on beliefs and not proven datas. Variants could also appears on vaccinated populations. But yes still not relevant for the subject.
Did you read my point ? The same people are as much threatened by a simple flu as covid, and as far as i know we don't blame all non vaccinated people against flu for killing immunocomprised people. And it would be as stupid as you calling killers non vaccinated people against covid.
Simple covid? I have not heard it called that before. Now as far as the Flu and people with previously underlying conditions. First, we have had the Flu for many years and we have never had people so seriously sick that we flew patient out of province to be treated. We have not had to convert regular wards into isolation wards due to the flu. We have not had to cancel surgeries for the flu.

"The impact of the pandemic response on Manitoba’s hospitals has resulted in a massive backlog of surgery and diagnostic procedures. Doctors Manitoba has been advocating on behalf of patients and their physicians for a plan to clear the backlog. As part of our work, we have created a dashboard to monitor the size of the backlog.

Our estimate of the backlog includes surgeries, diagnostic imaging tests such as MRIs and ultrasound scans, and other diagnostic procedures such as allergy tests and endoscopies. The pandemic backlog has reached 152,116 surgeries and diagnostic procedures, an increase of 6,675 from our November estimate."

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Here is some data, month to month in easy to digest pictures.

Monthly covid cases. We had about 74% fully vaccinated and 20% unvaccinated with the unvaccinated causing 70% of the hospitalizations, 86% of the ICU admissions and 72% of the deaths.

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As the virus spread to the greater population more of the vaccinated ended up in hospital although the death rate remained the same with the unvaccinated being 78% of the deaths

The older you get the more likely you will be hospitalized but half the ICU and hospitalizations come from the under 50 age group. 72% of cases have an underlying condition, Hypertension (high blood pressure) being the greatest.


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We had a low infection rate in our biggest city under 3% test positive rate, the majority of covid cases were from 20% of the population in the south east corner of our province who were only 20% vaccinated. The government would not crack down on the area due to them voting for the governing party. It is about an hour drive into the city, these people were anti-mask also. One was my sister's sister in law who said there was no covid there. She ended up getting shipped to the city ICU and was in a coma for about two weeks. She now is back in the rural hospital getting physiotherapy on how to breath on her own again.

My sister caught covid from her daughter, who's kids have it, they caught it from her husband. He is a rural parametric, four days ago there was an article in the paper on the shortage of them as they are quitting and finding other work.
 

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C. Nesbitt

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The new hotness is pickled goat sphincters
I watched people eat boiled pig sphincters on Fear Factor once. Gross. Joe Rogan was the host - this was a good decade before he descended fully into lunacy.
Wonder if there would be any ancillary COVID prevention benefit to eating pickled goat sphincters if the goats were dosed with a mix of ivermectin and hydroxychoraquine before being slaughtered and processed?
 

printer

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I watched people eat boiled pig sphincters on Fear Factor once. Gross. Joe Rogan was the host - this was a good decade before he descended fully into lunacy.
Wonder if there would be any ancillary COVID prevention benefit to eating pickled goat sphincters if the goats were dosed with a mix of ivermectin and hydroxychoraquine before being slaughtered and processed?
It is thought to be a meat tenderizer.
 
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