TheDemocrat
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hey teachers!! how much do you like those republicans now?
Wisconsin Revolt
- Thread starter Carne Seca
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medicineman
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medicineman
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Not really, it is the greedy upper class that is raping and pillaging. Union workers just want a reasonable wage and job security. Unions made the middle class and the elites are trying to get rid of it.
TheDemocrat
Active Member
always have...always will...
Chad Sexington
Active Member
I am pretty happy with them, how about you?
TheDemocrat
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my grandfather lost 2 fingers working in a sawmill at age 9. thanks to the unions you won't see many 9 year olds with missing fingers today.
medicineman
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It is all about how one sees things. Management has been brainwashed into thinking the unions are the enemy, by the owners. The union employees have seen what management does at the bargaining tables for long enough to realize that management does not have their best interest at heart. Are there bad lazy union employees, I'm pretty sure there are. In the type of union work I did, no slackers were allowed, if you were a lazy slob, you hit the bricks pretty soon. Even at the mixer driver division of the teamster union, no shenanigans were tolerated. You showed up, did your job in a professional manner or you were shown the door. If you damaged any company equipment, you were immediately drug tested, if you tested positive, you were done. If you had more than one accident in 2 years, automatic dismissal. When I was a union carpenter, even looking like you were moving at a slow pace could get you fired. I was mostly the foreman on the carpenter jobs, and hand picked my boys for my crew, ran a concrete crew for 8 years, now there's some real work.
Carne Seca
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You know folks. If it wasn't for the Unions and Wisconsin, we wouldn't have 8 hour work days, 5 day work weeks (that's right, no weekends), workers compensation, unemployment insurance, minimum wage, benefits, etc., etc., etc., etc..
The list goes on and on.
The list goes on and on.
Carne Seca
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Amen, brother.
Johnnyorganic
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A 40 hour work-week is for losers and slackers.
Put in 65....
Put in 70....
You MIGHT get my respect.
Otherwise... not so much.
The affluent work their asses off.
Deal with it...
or stage a 'sick out.'
Carne Seca
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A 40 hour work-week is for losers and slackers.
Put in 65....
Put in 70....
You MIGHT get my respect.
Otherwise... not so much.
The affluent work their asses off.
Deal with it...
or stage a 'sick out.'
I'm still trying find out if you have a point or not. It's like talking politics with a three year old. Can't you find some other thread to troll?
Ahh, the old push poll tactic. First off the people of Wisconsin elected the Governor to do just what he is doing. You equate the people with the unions, which is a flat out miss representation of the facts.
Ask your self if the liberal arts degree you have hanging on the wall represents an actual education, or just that your professors completely molded your thought process.
Ask your self if the liberal arts degree you have hanging on the wall represents an actual education, or just that your professors completely molded your thought process.
Carne Seca
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You mean my professors at BYU? One of THE conservative schools in the nation. Privately owned by the LDS Church. Those liberal communist professors? Is that who you're referring to?
You really should get your facts before trying to paint me into a corner as a HORRIBLE LIBERAL. They voted the Governor into office with the promise he would balance the budget. He never said anything about crippling and dismantling unions in that state. This has nothing to do with balancing the budget or has any fiscal benefit whatsoever. The Unions agreed to the cuts in pay and benefits. They, however, do not agree to losing the right to collective bargaining. This isn't just about Wisconsin. it's going on all over the place. Even here in my home state. Ohio is next. Then Florida. We're already fighting it here.
UncleBuck
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the dunce cap was not for an extra zero. thus, you earn another:
you won't be thanking me by the time half a million wisconsinites are protesting (maybe not all at once, same as egypt).
it is about education, as well as worker rights.
should they just sit aside and let bargaining rights disappear? boy, that would SURELY sweeten the deal for future generations of educators. have another:
what demands? educators and other public sector employees did not CAUSE the recession and the enormous shortfalls thereafter. they even took pay freezes, unpaid furloughs, and are offering more sacrifices, just like the rest of us.
the only 'demand' they have made is to leave their bargaining rights alone.
they are not demanding more of anything. they are offering concessions, rather. so, have another:
boy, wtf did unions ever do to piss you off so much, johnny?
Johnnyorganic
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So now I am a TROLL!
Heavens to Mergatroid!
It appears that SOMEONE (you) is down to the last arrow in his quiver.
Troll.
Seriously?
Come to think of it... it IS sort of like attempting to talk politics with a toddler.
So keep trying....
LOL!
UncleBuck
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obtuse metal processing is an ages old tradition in which pieces of metal are shaped into forms of art totaling greater than 90 degrees. QED.
good luck showing how unions put the state (or the country for that matter) in the mess we are in.
i believe you would have a better chance going after the fat cats on wall street, or the politicos in washington.
ie renege on contractual promises they made.
if i promise not to call you a dog fucker, and sign a contract not to call you a dog fucker, should i still be able to call you a dog fucker?
silly unions, believing that contracts and promises were made to be kept
how NAIVE.
hoffa, perhaps.
but your caricature is not one size fits all.
you know this.
UncleBuck
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i see that halo around your head is shining bright, johnny.
i bet you never took a sick day to play hooky.
tell me i'm right
UncleBuck
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i love you. my thoughts exactly.