theloadeddragon
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you would be better off doing it like that with the 42" Parabolic 
, and having an even spread, like you have now
, and having an even spread, like you have now 
Wonders Medical Grow: Round 2
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XxNinjaxX
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Hey Wonder, cant believe how long this has been going on 4 without me here.. But oh well, i've pulled up a chair now 
Here is a lil something 4ya 2 look @ since ur considering doing a Vertical Grow..
Heath's Critical Mass Grow.
Here is a lil something 4ya 2 look @ since ur considering doing a Vertical Grow..
Heath's Critical Mass Grow.
OregonMeds
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I just saw your diagram you drew up for the vertical grow plan. The 400's on top wouldn't be the ideal in the situation, since you're planning tall plants and they only throw strong usable light a couple feet at the very best. If you have to run the bulbs horizontal, you could just keep them in the hoods as is but have the whole hoods hung sideways as sidelights hanging about 2/3 the height of the plants. They would cover much more plant area lighting the sides of the plants than the tops and light areas that otherwise wouldn't have a lot of light at all.
On the tops they'd be overwhelmed by the 1k in the center, and basically not do a whole lot for you except up the heat.
I always refer to this picture for the height of the center bulb relative to the height of the plants. He set the standard, that is the relative height of the lights that you want if you're going to do it that way. You can see it's already at the tops.
On the tops they'd be overwhelmed by the 1k in the center, and basically not do a whole lot for you except up the heat.
I always refer to this picture for the height of the center bulb relative to the height of the plants. He set the standard, that is the relative height of the lights that you want if you're going to do it that way. You can see it's already at the tops.
XxNinjaxX
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Holy F*ck, they r some Big-Ass Buds!!
Who r the guys that sets these standards, and how do i become 1?!?!
OregonMeds
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That's Krusty's grow from back in the day on overgrow. Like over 10 years ago now.
It's done with a special hydro system that's like a RDWC except instead of an aquarium air pump it uses a large regenerative blower to froth the hell out of the water. Expensive, noisy, labor intensive, but balls to the wall as you can see.
There are guys still running similar systems but not on this board, but to this day I still haven't seen anyone beat the results krusty did. If you want more info google "krusty buckets" and or "freedom buckets".
His original posts are long gone though unfortunately.
DIMEBAG6604
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nice verry nice I like your set up looks pretty neat and clean to me keep the good work
wonderblunder
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I have seen a grow tih awesome results, where he put his 1k bulb vertically in his parabolic, and then had all his plants in a circle around it, with tops around the edge of the parabolic. That interests me......you would be better off doing it like that with the 42" Parabolic
I hear what your saying about the 400w's that I can do. But I don't understand what you are talking about with the 1000w. And place it similarly with the pic? With any luck these plants will be the desired height shortly. Im determined to vertical.........
Thank you. Nice to see you here.
wonderblunder
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Hey Bender. The numbers vertical growers are pulling are driving me insane. The simplicity of it is the worst part. Why am I not doing this. Both of these grows have motivated me to go vertical.
If I don't like, that is easily changeable too.......
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/249237-no-room-prep-very-simple.html
http://verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=488
bender420
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Very interesting, thanks for the links i will do some reading.
XxNinjaxX
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I tipped those scales 4 u 
theloadeddragon
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that brings up a very important point......
Methods, techniques, nutes, media etc. etc. it all plays into it..... and Genetics of course!....... I doubt people will see those results by setting their lights up like that, I Know they won't...... it takes a while, and some practice
Methods, techniques, nutes, media etc. etc. it all plays into it..... and Genetics of course!
....... I doubt people will see those results by setting their lights up like that, I Know they won't...... it takes a while, and some practice 
wonderblunder
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It never is....... Becoming a little hesitant of the vertical due to everybodies responses..... Feel like I will be kicking myself either way......
Vert has fascinated me, and the yields have to..... I just need to make up my mind........
wonderblunder
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Ok lets put this vertical idea aside. 8 plant scrog, 1800w? 42" parabolic, then my Xtra Suns are 18" wide. Gives me about 6.5' of length if hoods are touching. I have been wanting to do a scrog, Even built the screen...... I could definitely get these branches spread out over a screen. I feel like I tie them up like cheap whores, and make them at least twice as wide as they are tall right now..... This would be the time to add the screen correct..... then veg for 2 weeks?
OregonMeds
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Do whatever style you like, but just for the record...
There's nothing complicated or fancy or anything of the sort related to the vertical grows we are talking about, if you're going to poopoo on my grow style you folks should at least look at it first.
You can call it all sorts of names but complicated and fancy it's not, and by saying that I know for a fact you didn't look and don't know what you're talking about.
A flat garden is just fine OP, not trying to shove my style on you or anything but I just didn't feel that any of that advice is fair given they didn't even look.
There's nothing complicated or fancy or anything of the sort related to the vertical grows we are talking about, if you're going to poopoo on my grow style you folks should at least look at it first.
You can call it all sorts of names but complicated and fancy it's not, and by saying that I know for a fact you didn't look and don't know what you're talking about.
A flat garden is just fine OP, not trying to shove my style on you or anything but I just didn't feel that any of that advice is fair given they didn't even look.
wonderblunder
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You are really keeping me motivated. I have done a lot of reading on vertical, and it doesn't look as complicated..... In my mind it makes sense to use the bare bulb vertically, than horizontal in the reflector..... It won't be the end of the world if I don't get a single bud. Very doubtful. I think I am going to get a little bit hands on when the time is right and try a few different setups.
I hear you about the MH on the top not being the best way, and the Vertical mounting of the reflector (bulb remains horizontal) I think would be great... I could have some kick ass side lighting on all 4 sides and the 1000w in the middle? Nothing on top, but judging by the way that picture looks the light is supposed to be up there pretty tall. My flo plants are having a hard time keeping a level canopy.