Wood Cider Vinegar or Neem Oil for organic pest control outdoors?

gubblebum

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As the title says, is Neem Oil or Wood Cider Vinegar more effective for pest control outdoors? I was thinking id alternative them once per week? Thanks!
 

Rurumo

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Neem is great if used regularly. Idk about vinegar, but I do use citric acid in my IPM at low rates for prevention, and higher concentrations for treatment. The neem is good at 5ml/liter with some yucca or a few drops of detergent added to emulsify it-be sure to shake it like your life depends on it, and spray underneath each leaf, as well as the area around the plant outdoors, the soil I mean. Also, spray any nearby non-cannabis plants.
 

King Dude

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I really just prefer to use hydrogen peroxide, diatomaceous earth, and/or Bacillus thuringiensis. I've never heard of wood cidar vinegar, but neem oil leaves a residue that may be harmful when smoked.
 
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xtsho

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What is wood cider vinegar? I know cider vinegar and steel wool can be used to give a weathered look to wood but I've never heard of wood cider vinegar.
 

gubblebum

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What is wood cider vinegar? I know cider vinegar and steel wool can be used to give a weathered look to wood but I've never heard of wood cider vinegar.
Sorry I meant wood vinegar and it's funnily the same as liquid smoke used for BBQ sauce... An old Thai farmer says it's what he uses and I googled it, and indeed it's pretty good. Just don't see much about it being used for cannabis.
 

King Dude

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It seems that wood vinegar (a.k.a. pyroligneous acid) contains suspected carcinogens. Maybe it might be good for the vegetative phase of growth, but I wouldn't use it during the flowering stage.

However, I still don't know if it's any better than neem oil. Some sources claim that it may improve plant growth, which is not a known trait of neem oil. Perhaps you could experiment with using both on related plants with limited genetic diversity.
 
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