Would you support universal basic income if it meant eliminating all other social safety net progs?

Padawanbater2 · Mar 15, 2015

A UBI of $1,500/month ($18,000/year) to every American citizen, regardless of age, from birth to death & the elimination of all other social safety net programs

Support/oppose? Why?

CC Dobbs · Mar 15, 2015

I'm waiting to check on my translation but I believe the title of this thread is a palindrome in the Greek language,

Additionally, I'm on a bitcoin only economic model so how much would I get and could I still drink most of my income away?

schuylaar · Mar 15, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
A UBI of $1,500/month ($18,000/year) to every American citizen, regardless of age, from birth to death & the elimination of all other social safety net programs

Support/oppose? Why?

hell yes!

because denmark!

sheskunk · Mar 15, 2015

And this money comes from where?

Hazydat620 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
And this money comes from where?

Same place all the other money comes from that makes the world go round.

sheskunk · Mar 15, 2015

Hazydat620 said:
Same place all the other money comes from that makes the world go round.

Thin air?

budlover13 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
Thin air?

Taxes.

sheskunk · Mar 15, 2015

budlover13 said:
Taxes.

So give everyone free money and then tax them to get it back so they can give it to them again?

Should just make everything in the world free.

Hazydat620 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
So give everyone free money and then tax them to get it back so they can give it to them again?

Should just make everything in the world free.

Now you're starting to use your brain. What happens when everything is done by robotics, and I mean everything.

panhead · Mar 15, 2015

If you could pry the trillions from the cold dead fingers of the top 10% money barons & seize their assets for fair distribution it might work .

But isnt that communism ?

Padawanbater2 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
So give everyone free money and then tax them to get it back so they can give it to them again?

Should just make everything in the world free.

"An unconditional basic income (also called basic income, basic income guarantee, universal basic income, universal demogrant, or citizen’s income) is a form of social security system in which all citizens or residents of a country regularly receive an unconditional sum of money, either from a government or some other public institution, in addition to any income received from elsewhere."

sheskunk · Mar 15, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
"An unconditional basic income (also called basic income, basic income guarantee, universal basic income, universal demogrant, or citizen’s income) is a form of social security system in which all citizens or residents of a country regularly receive an unconditional sum of money, either from a government or some other public institution, in addition to any income received from elsewhere."

So they take my money in the form of taxes so they can give it back to my as a source of income?

And this makes sense to you?

sheskunk · Mar 15, 2015

Hazydat620 said:
Now you're starting to use your brain. What happens when everything is done by robotics, and I mean everything.

Who builds the robots?

Padawanbater2 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
So they take my money in the form of taxes so they can give it back to my as a source of income?

And this makes sense to you?

What's difficult to understand about this pretty basic concept? Everyone is guaranteed an income whether they work or not and it's cheaper to provide than the current social safety net programs we use. Win/win

Pinworm · Mar 15, 2015

Hazydat620 said:
Now you're starting to use your brain. What happens when everything is done by robotics, and I mean everything.

sheskunk said:
Who builds the robots?

Hazydat620 · Mar 15, 2015

sheskunk said:
Who builds the robots?

Everyone on the planet is gonna be engineers?

UncleBuck · Mar 16, 2015

sheskunk said:
So they take my money in the form of taxes so they can give it back to my as a source of income?

And this makes sense to you?

a universal basic income reduces your tax burden. everyone gets UBI, including those who work. so your tax burden would be reduced by whatever the amount of the UBI.

dumb sock puppeted admin.

TheHermit · Mar 16, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
A UBI of $1,500/month ($18,000/year) from birth

If that was the case I think our population would swell to about a billion within a decade or two. Hell, I would be scouring the third world looking for a bride that already has 15-20 kids.

Padawanbater2 · Mar 16, 2015

TheHermit said:
If that was the case I think our population would swell to about a billion within a decade or two. Hell, I would be scouring the third world looking for a bride that already has 15-20 kids.

UBI wouldn't come without some regulations, things that would prevent loopholes like your example from being exploited

TheHermit · Mar 16, 2015

It might stop the example I presented, but how could the government stop people from breeding like rabbits. I like the idea, but I don't see how it would work. It would cost 5-6 trillion every year, and the government only brings in about half that amount in taxes.

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