Would you support universal basic income if it meant eliminating all other social safety net progs?

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ttystikk said:
We need people in rural areas, and we need to ensure they have modern services and infrastructure, including but not limited to high speed internet access. Then one's education and ability to contribute to the knowledge economy is no longer tied to services only available in urban areas.
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Access to information is one of the fastest ways to turn a culture progressive, Republicans know this. So how do we successfully push that idea? I'm sure they would oppose it, just like they oppose universal education, because they know it makes their constituents smarter, and they also know smarter constituents don't vote for them.. I think you're onto something by pushing the idea, since it's also true, that access to high speed internet creates jobs and benefits business. Push the economic side of things as far as you can, that way when the Republicans inevitably oppose it, you can criticize them for stifling job growth and preventing economic prosperity, something that actually resonates with their constituents.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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What an amazing topic. The difficulty to understand the real concept is to its an entire paradigm shift, not just plunking down ubi but all else stys the same, as in entire model. Whole model shifts. Where scamming is scorned. Where sloth is not ignored, that we work and acheive to advance us as individuals even economically but with the first motivation being you are making life better for all. A model Where all wealth is not allowed to be at the top almost entirely... but individuals can acheive more.

When folks relate it to similiar current and past political systems the true discussion of this topic is lost... because one still brings logic from the current system that just isnt compatible with basis of this new model.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Access to information is one of the fastest ways to turn a culture progressive, Republicans know this. So how do we successfully push that idea? I'm sure they would oppose it, just like they oppose universal education, because they know it makes their constituents smarter, and they also know smarter constituents don't vote for them.. I think you're onto something by pushing the idea, since it's also true, that access to high speed internet creates jobs and benefits business. Push the economic side of things as far as you can, that way when the Republicans inevitably oppose it, you can criticize them for stifling job growth and preventing economic prosperity, something that actually resonates with their constituents.
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An educated citizenry is an idea older than the Declaration of Independence itself. It was built into our Union from the very beginning, along with a free and unregulated press, specifically to inform this educated populace. It was the first and strongest bulwark against their sworn enemy, aristocracy.

If they're against either of these ideas, they can't be allowed to get away with calling themselves 'conservatives', because they aren't. They're actually radical fascists. And that's what Americans must start calling them.
 
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