WTF are these bugs? (indoor soil)

wbd

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Did some heavy watering today (indoor soil), came backa bit later and saw what looked like black dust on the edges of the pots. Then I noticed the "dust" was moving.

Hundreds and hundreds of the tiniest bugs I've ever seen! WTF are these things?
 

wbd

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Some quick research and a microscope ... looks like springtails. Anyone ever dealt with these before?
 

crazy-mental

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first whats heavy watering, it sound s like spider mites. dont try neem oil, it somtimes hurts the plants.
either buy some proper bug likker, or mix some dish soap in warm water and let it cool, then spray both sides of the leaves with it, and whip with clean water, on a cotton bud.
if there still there try again the next day repeat the prosess,and they should be gone.
but if your grow space is prone to bugs, then buy some proper stuff to help get rid.
cos if you have em now, youll have loads when it gets warmer.
where did you get the soil,for your plants, the eggs could have been living in the soil, and the lite will of warmed them up and hatched the bug eggs.
have you any pics, before you do anything drastic.
 

wbd

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Check out the pic I just posted Crazy-Mental, they are called springtails. Right now, I'm not convinced that they are harmful, and as a matter of fact are possibly helpful, but still reading...
 

wbd

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Springtails (usually Onychiurus species) in pot plants

Plants affected

Many pot plants, especially those grown in peat, coir or other types of soil-less compost.

Symptoms

Small wingless insects, up to 2mm long and often white, crawl among the compost of pot plants. They are most noticeable after watering when they come up onto the surface before burrowing back in the compost, or they may be flushed out through the drainage holes and be seen floating on the drainage water.
Other white insects of similar size found among the roots of pot plants are likely to be root mealybugs. That sap-feeding type of pest is relatively immobile in the soil compared with the much more active springtails. The latter also has a pair of antennae visible on the insect's head, whereas those on mealybugs are microscopic.

Cause

These insects are springtails, so-named because many species (not Onychiurus spp.) have a forked structure folded under their abdomen; when flicked out it propels the insect into the air and helps the creature escape predators or adverse conditions. Many species of springtail of various colours occur in garden soil but the types most frequently found in potting compost are white Onychiurus species.

Control

None is necessary. These are harmless creatures that feed on fungal growth and decaying plant material. They are dependent on damp conditions and so will not spread away from pot plants or become a nuisance in the home.
 

lagwag

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Springtails are in fact (google it) soils friend and are very much harmless to your plants. Don't worry. If they are springtails you'll be fine.
 

anferndizzle

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Springtails I have them too! I myself went to go check on my plants today after I woke up and, I saw movement in my soil, i looked carefully, and I saw this white little bug barely visable. I watched, and it only seemed to be a soil dwelling creature, i have not seen anything on my plants. I went around and did some research on this site, and found this post. I wasn't quite sure they were springtails since i can't even really get a picture of the dam things they are so small, even when I set my digital camera to Si Macro. So I proceeded to play around in my soil, overturning a lil bit of soil around the plants that I saw them. After poking around, i disturbed some, and I proceeded to watch them JUMP! If it wasn't for this post, i'd be freaking out. Apparently its due to the overwatering i did when I transplanted my plants.

I am glad to hear that these are actual beneficial, and mine seem to be from the Onychiurus family. I think they came in through my potting soil. Never buying Scott's again. I miss my Black Gold potting soil, but I havn't seen it anywhere around here. Its either Scott's or Miracle Grow. (Now you know why I bought the Scott's in the first place) :roll:
 

uwazayn

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I have the same problem with the little bastards all over my two closet plants. They might be good for your plants, but who wants to have thousands of multiplying parasites (Springtails) in your closet or bedroom? They are a nuisance!!
 

wingcancook

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THESE LITTLE FUCKERS ARE THE DEVIL!!!!!!!they are prone to african violets, i can not find out where they come from or how they get into your grow rooms. BUT YOU CAN NOT KILL THEM!!! you have to destroy all the soil they live in and completely sterilize every square inch of your grow room. they have a life span of two months and give live birth, so they are always in all stages of development. they show know signs of infestation until it is in every plant. symptoms look just like a nutrient deficency, yellowing leaves, curling tips, stunted growth, nutrient burn. they feed on the capillary roots of they plant therefoe making it impossible for the plant to absorb nutrients or water properly. if you get them you are fucked. you can not kill them, you basically have to either wash all your plant roots completely clean and repot into sterile mediums, or start over completely and kill all the infected plants. if you only get them at the end(which is highly unlikely, you just dont see them till its to late) just flush the shit out of your soil a couple of times and say your prayers!!!!
 

moodster

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im not sure if i have them when i water the tiny white springtails float up to the top then go back into the soil
 

Thraxz13

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Thats a springtale..They are not going to hurt your plants but like earlier stated they are a nuisance....Who wants to clean the floor every time you water.. Fox farm Ocean forest tends to have them!!
 

moodster

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cheers m8 my soil is canna terra pro are springtails caused by overwatering and can i use a pyrethrin based spray directly on the soil thanks everyone
 
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