wtf male pod with female parts coming out when it opens

Budzbuddha

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Ok ... I wasn't gonna comment ...... Ok i'm Lying :blsmoke:

The MEME was just a JOKE ..... J .... O .... K ... E ....

You ran with this brainless tirade about hermies and transgender junk ...
( i just threw up in my mouth ) .... :spew:

NewsFlash ! .... WE ALL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE ....
When you start calling posters idiots and retards ... You get the horns. SIMPLE

TIME TO MOVE ON ...:fire: And you are beginning to HARSH up my MELLOW :joint:
 

Kingrow1

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Science hasnt yet proved that the xy chromosomes in mj are responsible for these male flowers on a none the less female plant, could be the whole hermie genetic thing is total bs and independant protein systems govern this exspression. They cite this as a possible reason why it is so prevelant in many strains and why less than perfect conditions can cause it to happen.

Could be your all wrong!
 

Kingrow1

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^^^^^^ Nope! Couldn't be wrong :eyesmoke:.
No one knows yet and thats the point, the independant protein model is just one of the leading theories and is independant of xy sex genetics so technically nothing to do with hemaphoditism whatsoever. Youd have to read the last 3 years of research on the subject to make sense of it.
 

Budzbuddha

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Look ... Forget the science ...

All we CARE about is getting the stupid seed to grow into a plant that we can kill after some time and throw in a pipe.

No need for nerdist theories or gravitational wave anomalies , or whatever.

For me ... The science i use is to yell
" grow you fuckin bitch .. Grow " .

Works pretty well
 

Kingrow1

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Look ... Forget the science ...

All we CARE about is getting the stupid seed to grow into a plant that we can kill after some time and throw in a pipe.

No need for nerdist theories or gravitational wave anomalies , or whatever.

For me ... The science i use is to yell
" grow you fuckin bitch .. Grow " .

Works pretty well
Let me make it non-sciency so you can understand....

Crapper growers see this stuff more than better growers!

:-)
 

Budley Doright

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No one knows yet and thats the point, the independant protein model is just one of the leading theories and is independant of xy sex genetics so technically nothing to do with hemaphoditism whatsoever. Youd have to read the last 3 years of research on the subject to make sense of it.
Don't think they have actually found a true hermaphrodite have they?
 

$bkbbudz$

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OH MAN!!!! I hit the ignore too soon! Apparently there was some other fun discussion going on while I was at work. Damn! if I didn't have bills to pay, I could stay home all day and laugh at pompous arrogant idiots and have a load of fun...

Peter was right, growing up sucks! I should not have left Neverland!

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Budley Doright

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OH MAN!!!! I hit the ignore too soon! Apparently there was some other fun discussion going on while I was at work. Damn! if I didn't have bills to pay, I could stay home all day and laugh at pompous arrogant idiots and have a load of fun...

Peter was right, growing up sucks! I should not have left Neverland!

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Why did you leave.....oh right bills to pay lol, me too.
 

kmog33

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I would say I'm right, not just to a certain extent, its the truth.

To say breeders don't all use stable and tried and true genetics you're living in a dream land.
You're half right. By stating that sunshines original statement was wrong is incorrect. Because he was right in saying almost all of the clone only strains you guys are speaking of were accidents. That did herm on their own. You're right about the instability in the gene pool being due to some breeders using these strains.

But, the good breeders tend to try to breed the herm trait out. So the progeny a lot of the time is more stable than the originals. So you're wrong in saying that breeders are intentionally breeding instability into the gene pool. Because what they are doing is trying to stabilize fire that isn't. Hopefully using strains that are more stable in order to bring the good (clone only)genetics into the seed gene pool so everyone has easier access to them, and to make unstable genetics more stable by using complimentary, more stable strains.

Not that every breeder practices this way, but i think every good breeder does.
 

su^

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You're half right. By stating that sunshines original statement was wrong is incorrect. Because he was right in saying almost all of the clone only strains you guys are speaking of were accidents. That did herm on their own. You're right about the instability in the gene pool being due to some breeders using these strains.

But, the good breeders tend to try to breed the herm trait out. So the progeny a lot of the time is more stable than the originals. So you're wrong in saying that breeders are intentionally breeding instability into the gene pool. Because what they are doing is trying to stabilize fire that isn't. Hopefully using strains that are more stable in order to bring the good (clone only)genetics into the seed gene pool so everyone has easier access to them, and to make unstable genetics more stable by using complimentary, more stable strains.

Not that every breeder practices this way, but i think every good breeder does.
I didn't say all breeders use herm based plants or don't try to breed the trait out. Re read my post I simply said you're living in dream land if you think ALL breeders use tried and tested gear. I'm not arguing that the good breeders don't do their diligence, I'm just saying herm plants are still used to breed with, it's inevitable.
 

kmog33

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I didn't say all breeders use herm based plants or don't try to breed the trait out. Re read my post I simply said you're living in dream land if you think ALL breeders use tried and tested gear. I'm not arguing that the good breeders don't do their diligence, I'm just saying herm plants are still used to breed with, it's inevitable.
I never said you said that all breeders used herm based plants to breed. I only stated that when you stated that sunshine was incorrect and that the general statement you made about breeders breeding instability into the gene pool intentionally was only half right due to the intention of the post calling out another user saying he was incorrect in stating that the clone onlys came from herms that were, in most cases unintentional.

Didn't say you were wrong in your point about instability. In fact I reinforced it, it was the second part of your post in regards to sunshine that made the post only half right. I guess it's partially that you didn't necessarily disagree with him in fact, just in statement. As he seemed to be talking about where the clones onlys are coming from and you were stating that breeders are using them to breed. At that point intentionally causing them to herm to make fem seeds. Which is different from the original strains that were accidents.
 

Budley Doright

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I thought a clone only strain was one that would not self pollinate and could only be cloned to keep it going? Guess I thought wrong :(.
 

Kingrow1

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Hermie my fucking ass, aint none of you had a real genetic hermie! Shouting this bs at every plant that throws a male flower, guess what, that pretty much every strain in the industry!

Grow up and try to get better at growing not run round like an adolescent kid screaming shit you have no comprehension about on every thread.

None of you have hermies, this shit happens on just about every landrace strain in the wild and its the easiest way to spot noobs on this board because eventually you will read and grow enough not to act like this.

My comments on the subject are clear and concise, i try not to annoy simpletons with the ACTUAL science as well. Mr sunshine and racerboy are long time posters, they contribute more than most and i agree with them as the simply tried to say this shit happens and no need to run round like a noob shouting hermie hermie dis the breeder.

Knowledge is key here at riu, talk shit just dont perpetuate it!
 

su^

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I know Rare Dankness is now coming out with a feminized line but here is a quote from thier website about fem beans.

"Does Rare Dankness™ have feminized seeds?
Rare Dankness™ Seeds does not produce feminized seeds at this time. We believe the feminization causes weakening of the Cannabis genetics if not done properly. Rare Dankness does realize that there is a place and demand for feminized genetics, especially in areas with strict plant count laws. We are currently working on a small selected feminized line, to provide a better opportunity for those dealing with strict plant count laws or limited space"

Now if not done properly it weakens the cannabis genetics. Not every breeder properly breeds fem seeds or any for that matter. I'M NOT SAYING EVERY BREEDER DOES IT, just SOME shady ones.

Reserva Privada Colorado makes a strain called Lohan, LA con x trainwreck. Hermied on me like it was it's job, also feminized, I'm sure the breeder went out of it way to properly breed that strain.
 

Gquebed

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Well I'm no expert on the subject of femmed seeds but it is my understanding that reputable breeders actually strive to breed out the herm trait before they actually self the plants for seed. Having herm plants gets out pretty quick so it's probably not a good thing for buisness. Again if Im wrong please let me know. I try to not offer any thing that is wrong and if not sure I ask lol.
Good breeders who know what they are doing and who take the YEARS REQUIRED to breed out the undesireable traits can make stable fem seeds. The problem is that there are very few good breeders that bother to take the time to do the job right...

So...most fem seeds are shit... and most hybreds from reg seeds are unstable....

These days it is a total crap shoot buying any kind of seed, i have found.
 

Budley Doright

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I've had very few throw pollen, one I think. But the potency of most I have purchased are pretty mediocre except for the very odd few like White Russian, my top 10 favourite for potency :).
 
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