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veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Bacillus thurengiensis. It produces severe and fatal gastric distress in all caterpillars. On tomatoes it kills Tomato Horn worms. On the cabbage family, it kills Cabbage worms. On weed it kills bud worms. I see butterflies and moths in my garden all through the growing season but rarely find more than two or three worms at harvest. Those are usually very small or dead. Safer caterpillar killer is the the brand I use, but there are other brands out there. If the contents don't list Bacillus thurengiensis, it isn't the right stuff.
 
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Bullethighway

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Uh huh i got em bad
cut worms and catterpillars
they shit in it and just pure rots it
worst year ever for me
so thats the active ingredient
How long before harvest can i spray it
2 weeks 1 week
Preciate your you setting me in good diection
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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If you have a lot of worms, spray the buds NOW. Soak them, let them dry for a day or two, then rinse them early in the day, and let the sun dry them. Done thoroughly, this should kill all the worms. If you must spray again, use a fine mist on each bud. Rinse as before. Don't wait more than two weeks between applications.Normally I'd spray the last applications 4 weeks before harvest, but you can spray later, if you don't mind washing the buds the morning before harvest.
 
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Bullethighway

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I got ya i tried picking what i could
by hand
thanks for your info
Try and hunt some of that stuff down
And spray em for they kill em all
 
tyson53

tyson53

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the worse part of cata's is the shit they do all over the buds...thats mold area for sure...if your plants are not tall...should get most of the crap off the buds...or the cata's will be the least of your problem ..I had them bad last year...and threw 3 lbs of rotted bud out do the shit in them...my plants were close to 13 feet so was hard cleaning...
 
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Bullethighway

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Yea man i know
any of ya get cob webs on ur buds
What causes that
Its kinda hard for me to read through
all the info on here
i get headachs bad after ten minutes of reading
 
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Extacie

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So is B.T./Spinosad a very effective approach, or does it just sort of help? I've read mixed things on it, some say it's very effective, others not so much.

Would "Sevin" or a dif. chemical be a more effective approach? (I am sure this will be highly recommended against, but just trying to learn what would be the most effective)

Btw, chemicals would only be used on plants one week into bloom barely forming pistils, wasn't sure if that'd be alright or not?

Thanks all!
 
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PsychoticOne

PsychoticOne

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Bullethighway said:
Yea man i know
any of ya get cob webs on ur buds
What causes that
Its kinda hard for me to read through
all the info on here
i get headachs bad after ten minutes of reading
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I believe that might be spider mites? I had some of them but my worst issue last season was the grubs. They shat all over my buds too and munged out on them like there was no tomorrow!
 
PsychoticOne

PsychoticOne

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I just purchased Yates caterpillar killer Dipel. It says that BT is one of the main components so hopefully its strong enough to do the job!
 
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Extacie

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PsychoticOne said:
I just purchased Yates caterpillar killer Dipel. It says that BT is one of the main components so hopefully its strong enough to do the job!
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Psycho, I read on an article about tobacco budworms that dipel when used as baits hand placed in each individual flower is 90% effective where as b.t. & spinosad as sprays are only 60-70% effective so sounds like you did good to me.

What is the best option for plants in late bloom? Alternating bt and spinosad? I read that, & alternate every 5 days (I was thinking more often)

Best to drench the buds completely? Maybe even pull the buds apart to really drench them?
 
PsychoticOne

PsychoticOne

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Extacie said:
Is it like baits/pellets or a liquid? I want to order some, but wasn't sure which to order lol.

Best of luck!
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What I got has has 10 x 10 g sachets which each sachet is dissolved into 10 litres of water and sprayed onto foliage. Thanks Good luck to you too, especially with those pesky pests!
 
MrRare

MrRare

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Wow what a long thread.
After reading all the way through it appears the best protocol is to start spraying early and stay on a alternating weekly spray program of BT and Spinosed up until two weeks of harvest. Additional pest control can be accomplished with Neem oil or Azamax.
In the final week before harvest wash the plants with a mixture of RO water and Hydrogen Peroxide at a ratio of 4oz H2O2 to 2gallons H2O with a Hudson sprayer.
Dry, cure and enjoy!
 
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Extacie

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PsychoticOne said:
What I got has has 10 x 10 g sachets which each sachet is dissolved into 10 litres of water and sprayed onto foliage. Thanks Good luck to you too, especially with those pesky pests!
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Thanks man, fuck those little things, trying to eat up all are hard earned work!! I sprayed yesterday and found 3 today when cleaning them up.. Tortured those fuckers to get revenge for my girls then fed them to the birds lol.

MrRare said:
Wow what a long thread.
After reading all the way through it appears the best protocol is to start spraying early and stay on a alternating weekly spray program of BT and Spinosed up until two weeks of harvest. Additional pest control can be accomplished with Neem oil or Azamax.
In the final week before harvest wash the plants with a mixture of RO water and Hydrogen Peroxide at a ratio of 4oz H2O2 to 2gallons H2O with a Hudson sprayer.
Dry, cure and enjoy!
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Thank you for reading through everything and summing up, I unfortunately have not had time to with work, only got through 6 or 7 pages.
I love the idea of h202/watering down before harvest!
Thans man.

FresnoFarmer said:
Captain Jacks Deadbug brew. FTW!
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Lol thanks Fres. You had pretty good luck with it? I read mixed reviews on it and spinosad in general. I'm gonna alternate that and safer caterpillar spray anyways.
 
PsychoticOne

PsychoticOne

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Yeah I remember last season when I got caterpillars, at first I didn't want to kill them, in the end I was stabbing them with scissors lol. Will let ya know how the Dipel works when I get to that stage.
 
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