Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

jbcCT

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I just went to check on my almost finished auto beauties and found sooo many centipedes or whatever it is. So I'm picking those fuckers with tweezers and killing them.
I respect your diligence but when you see worms, assume there are 5 times as many you can't see. You need BT. Next grow you'll pre-spray every three to five days. This way you won't be reacting to the problem but preventing it.

Weather, bugs, we're all dealing with it. Welcome to the club.
 

Thedillestpickle

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Oh damn I haven't even looked for pests in my buds. I just assumed my plants are healthy and no PM, so they should be able to fend for themselves. Been going all season on just garden soil and water, they look good so far.
 

The Gram Reaper

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Hemp mites have wiped out more than one plant of mine... I'm dealing with afew this year..

View attachment 4394168 View attachment 4394172 I'm trying a new product called Big Time Exterminator. The best product I've found for them so far is the Green Cleaner... But shit is costy when you have plants that are 9-10'. I use an atomizer to spray with. Makes it abit easier when you got alot of leaf mass to coat...
Your plants are looking great!
 

deadjon

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BT works I hear? I myself stick with Spinosad. Been working for me... If ain't broke,,, don't fix........ Still, ain't too late for Early Oct harvests.. GL Ya'll....
Yea, I think spinosad lasts longer than BT montery spray, as far as I know BT is 2 - 3 days "lasting" and you need to reapply every week or so to stave off any new eggs that hatch. Spinosad supposedly lasts 1 - 2 weeks, so you don't need to reapply as often.

I suggest also mixing in a organic oil based spray in addition to these, like Trifecta or Green Juice. Best to have a layered approach to IPM.
 

jbcCT

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One of my plants this year was bag seed. My son had collected them. One turned lady and was a runt, foot tall into July. It's just hitting the stride now. I'm starting to cut the grape Saturday, not all of it is ready but these danker purple strains tend not to do as well in the colder weather. Very prone to mold spores cause it's just that dank. Got a little lucky with weather sunny and 75 till the weekend, mid 80s over the weekend, just what I needed.

Still spraying BT. I did back to back morning sprays Sunday and Monday. The moths are still out in full force dropping eggs.
 

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norcaliwood

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Holy sh*t. Us worm guys thought we had it bad. Is this similar to spider mites where you can see them and spray them off the plant? Are they attacking the leaf, stems? You have massive plants to deal with.

It's funny and cruel how nature tries to take this from us. I'm in the NE. Buddy of mine stopped by tonight. He's fighting to get his across the finish line. Has a rust fungus setting it on the flower. He's like, "how do those guys in CA, WA and OR deal with this shit?"

You gotta be like a f@$ing ninja to do this sh*t but dam is it pleasing......

Your garden looks fantastic by the way.

Just got in from some night gardening patrol. Love being out there at night. Can still hear the bugs chirping, full moon tonight. Winter is a coming.....

These things are small. You can see them with a 45x loupe,, but to really make them out,, use a 60x. They actually bore in the stem and winter over inside infected stemage. Bud turn brown and dead... Starting at the lower middle spreading outward and upward. Matter a fact you could say it looks like rust too.. Next to impossible to control once flowering sets in. I made the mistake of using my soil again I think. But the best way to stop them is preventive. Some DE sprinkled around the soil will help. And if your in area prone to them spray your plants regularly while in veg up till 4 or 5 days into flower. Claims I hear is Green Cleaner from Old Stage is the best. Neem works, even Azamax while in veg.

Not sure if I posted this here,,, but there is very little info out there on these bastards but here's a fast read;

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/control-broad-mites-russet-marijuana-times-called-hemp-tvedten
 

jbcCT

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These things are small. You can see them with a 45x loupe,, but to really make them out,, use a 60x. They actually bore in the stem and winter over inside infected stemage. Bud turn brown and dead... Starting at the lower middle spreading outward and upward. Matter a fact you could say it looks like rust too.. Next to impossible to control once flowering sets in. I made the mistake of using my soil again I think. But the best way to stop them is preventive. Some DE sprinkled around the soil will help. And if your in area prone to them spray your plants regularly while in veg up till 4 or 5 days into flower. Claims I hear is Green Cleaner from Old Stage is the best. Neem works, even Azamax while in veg.

Not sure if I posted this here,,, but there is very little info out there on these bastards but here's a fast read;

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/control-broad-mites-russet-marijuana-times-called-hemp-tvedten
Holy hell in a hand basket. Someone asked me the other day how outdoor growers deal with all this shit. It struck me cause I know the feeling.
 

The Gram Reaper

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Michigan has been hell on outdoor growers for years, but now it is really upping the bullshit level. Good luck and I suggest getting indoors. It's not changing for the better.
 

jbcCT

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Michigan has been hell on outdoor growers for years, but now it is really upping the bullshit level. Good luck and I suggest getting indoors. It's not changing for the better.
Yeah, part of the fun of outdoor is how much clean crop can you turn in? Nature is going to take a piece. The game is how much you can steal back from nature. It's a formidable opponent. Throws alot at us. Nothing can replace our sun. That dank sticky. I hear ya on the indoor.

I just posted some pics up last night. Lost half my plants last year. This year I won't lose a single plant. I'll give up a few branches, we all do.
 

stray77

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We're most of the way through harvesting two large (7' tall 5' wide) outdoor plants. So far the most interesting find was an m&m sized snail in one of the top colas, it slimed a small area which I cut out completely. I've had a couple batches of spider eggs/nest that needed to be cut out as well. As for pests, I've been picking tiny little black flies off the sticky trichomes here and there, we've found 1 batch of unhatched moth eggs (about 60 grey .2mm honeycombed eggs on the underside of a leaf near the tip.) but that's about it. No actual worms, very little insect damage. So far so good.
 

Gravypurps

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wtf I thought this was all stuff up north.

If your plants are in pots does this reduce the chance of getting them....

Damn im scared now!!
Not at all.I had a rad bug free summer, no PM, no nada, then came the fucking rain.Three weeks later I'm cutting out caterpillars like crazy.
 

WizardWeed

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I found 7 baby spittle bugs spittliting it up on 2 lowest nugs on 1 plant. They were in their pouches of bubbles just eating and putting out spittle.
 

jbcCT

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We have had the best 7 day weather wise in New England. Mid 80's all weekend, dry, not a cloud in the sky.

Started harvesting the most mature grape first. How nice it was to wet trim and to see only one tiny dying worm ready to fall off. They turn dark brown once poisoned with BT.

This grape also has the color of like a blood rasberry in the middle of the flower. Stunning.
 

Thegermling

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You guys need to put misquito netting over your plants next season. I ran autos in the summer (2018) and I found one plant that had budworms. I did research and I found out that moths or butterflies lay these little round white eggs usually on the top colas. Those eggs bust out little worms that usually go inside the buds and they start eating from inside out. You can tell you have budworms when your pistils are turning brown too early. The caterpillars crawl across. If you miss that sign for some reason then youll notice that a part of a cola is slowly losing color and then it turns brown (like it has bud rot). Sugar leaves close to that area will lose color too. They will turn yellow slowly. Pry apart the bud in that area and youll find fucken tunnels where the worms bore through.
I heard BTk (Bacillus thuringiensis subspecies kurstaki) is good to use even in flower. Make sure its the kurstaki in the BT. The worms eat this and they starve to death.
 

Growing24/7

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Don't know what the weed gods have been doing, still have yet to see a bud worm in any grow (only grown 8 plants total in my life, i guess its very minimal considering the my first grows were small). How common are they? Pretty sure i might have found a nest once but dispatched of that leaf properly.
 
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roaf

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Just found 1 bud worm on my sour diesel X lemon Kush hybrid....My biggest fear!! I sprayed BT just before flower and my other 2 plants are doing just fine.

Haven’t seen any worms all season.

I’m hoping I caught it pretty early. I noticed 1 small brown spot on a small side cola. Picked it off and sure enough that little fucker was in there.

I scoured the rest of the plant and couldn’t find anything. I keep a close watch on my plants so I’ll be sure to check again in the AM.
 

jbcCT

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Just found 1 bud worm on my sour diesel X lemon Kush hybrid....My biggest fear!! I sprayed BT just before flower and my other 2 plants are doing just fine.

Haven’t seen any worms all season.

I’m hoping I caught it pretty early. I noticed 1 small brown spot on a small side cola. Picked it off and sure enough that little fucker was in there.

I scoured the rest of the plant and couldn’t find anything. I keep a close watch on my plants so I’ll be sure to check again in the AM.
You would be able to visually see damage at this point. I have been spraying every two to three days. No way I'm giving up the goods now. Beautiful weather in NE continues, hit 90 today. Thank you weed God's.

Harvest in it's 3rd day, carry on and thanks for the report man. The more contributors the better.
 

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