i just flowered 10 plants under a 1k in my closet and got 1 pound and 4 ounces dried. the plants got too tall for the space i was working with but still produced an astonishing amount with the FIM technique. this round im growing in the exact same conditions with good temps and humidity same nutes and ph 5.9-6.1 but the buds are not nearly the mass at week 6 that they were last time. the only thing i did different was try to LST them instead of FIM. at the beginning of this second cycle it seemed they were going to produce twice as much because of how many tops are in there but they are filling out soooo slowwwww and theres no mass to them. is it because the strain doesnt like the style of growing?? everyting n the enviroment is exact same to the T. any suggestions would help as i have the 3rd batch vegging in another room and dont want to make the same mistake
Yeild went from amazing to shit...dont get it
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i didn't notice if you said if it's the same strain this round or not mate...
fatboyOGOF
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Filthy Phil
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Well if the ONLY thing you did different was the FIM/LST then I would say thats why. For one, if you LST your plants too often it can overly stress them and slow them down. With the fim technique, its one stressor and repair, then growth from then out. If you LST every day or every three days,IMO your plants are spending more time in repair giving less uniterupted time for growth. I find a strong thourough LST once every 10 days is more prductive then minorly every three days. I dont know though if thats the reason. MJ is an interesting plant, they're all a little different from the next in ways.
yeah im thinking thats what it is because the first batch was beautiful with colas as big as 22oz beer cans and these are like a bunch of silver dollars, they havebeautiful root structures, no pests mold or mildew. they are spoiled as hell with their own ac and c02 haha. thish next goes into flower in 3 weeks and i think im just going to try to lollipop the shit out of them and farm the upper half or 3rd only
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lst.... low stress training.. there's no stress involved when you use lst, or it wouldn't be called lst, it would be called hst or some other name..
Ragged Trousered Roller
Member
I just had the same problem mate although too many variables in my case to know why. I changed strain and went for a different type of pot. Last time i averaged 4oz per plant this time not even 2. Sometimes we got to just take it on the chin and look forward to the next one.
MrStickyScissors
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let it flower tell its fully mature aim for 2 zips
kingi95012
Active Member
''low stress'' You still stressing the plant just not a lot. Wouldnt it be called LT (low training) if there was no stress?lst.... low stress training.. there's no stress involved when you use lst, or it wouldn't be called lst, it would be called hst or some other name..
Samwell Seed Well
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how long has it been since you bought a new bulb
DrFever
New Member
i beleive some strains just don;t work when trying to Supercrop and or top i did a grow where i supercropped like 6 plants , topped like 6 plants and left others alone these are my findings under 10,000 watts of power C02 and a dialed in controlled enviroment
Supercropped - tons of buds sites buds were small and really amounted to nothing when dryed
topping a plant - again with this method i topped and let her go about another week in veg before flipping
results got as many as 6 top colas on a plant yet again buds were average size not even comparable to a untopped plant guess you could compare them to lower side buds of a untouched plant
a plant not touched at all no leafs other then dryed up ones were taken off all buds sites were huge even buds at soil height averaged 90 grams wet top buds comparible to a 2 litre bottle side buds 1 litre
So we sit here for a moment thinking most strains of MJ have bin on this earth longer then your great great great grandfather and were trying to play mother nature on them by playing with is natural way of growing which it has grown for 1000's of years there no different then anyother living things they want to survive so one would think that if you wanted to live wouldnt you try to do it best way as possible ???? just like M J it grows and seeds like every other plant BEST WAY possible
Wouldnt you think if a plant could grow better lets say being low and really bushy then it would naturaly go that route but most likely like most MJ planyts if you were to plant one outside they would grow like a tree 9 feet tall other then growing low
Supercropped - tons of buds sites buds were small and really amounted to nothing when dryed
topping a plant - again with this method i topped and let her go about another week in veg before flipping
results got as many as 6 top colas on a plant yet again buds were average size not even comparable to a untopped plant guess you could compare them to lower side buds of a untouched plant
a plant not touched at all no leafs other then dryed up ones were taken off all buds sites were huge even buds at soil height averaged 90 grams wet top buds comparible to a 2 litre bottle side buds 1 litre
So we sit here for a moment thinking most strains of MJ have bin on this earth longer then your great great great grandfather and were trying to play mother nature on them by playing with is natural way of growing which it has grown for 1000's of years there no different then anyother living things they want to survive so one would think that if you wanted to live wouldnt you try to do it best way as possible ???? just like M J it grows and seeds like every other plant BEST WAY possible
Wouldnt you think if a plant could grow better lets say being low and really bushy then it would naturaly go that route but most likely like most MJ planyts if you were to plant one outside they would grow like a tree 9 feet tall other then growing low
mouthmeetsoap
Active Member
It sounds like it's probably overcrowding. Give them room to stretch and they'll reward you. Nobody likes to be cramped in a small area.
It could also be the light. You'd be amazed at how fast a lot of bulbs will degrade in lumens. I personally change mine every other cycle. Get a light meter and test for yourself.
It could also be the light. You'd be amazed at how fast a lot of bulbs will degrade in lumens. I personally change mine every other cycle. Get a light meter and test for yourself.
DrFever
New Member
shouldnt really matter if there over crowded only thing that will suffer is lower bud sites thats where selective cutting comes into play so when top half of plants are done cut plant in half and let lower ones go for another week or 2
) I beleive this guy is running 1000 watts so he will get some decent light penetration
heres a crowded room look at lower bud sites there still big and getting light
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The strAin is larrys of crossed w blue dream and strong stains of both. I'm guessing they just didn't like the low stress training I can't imagine it was anything else there's toooons of bud sites and potential tops but nothing filled out and connected just a ton of cherry buds. I have 3 more weeks till harvest and pumpin em up with shooting powder now so well see if overs the next cpl weeks they decide to plump up..
Samwell Seed Well
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buy one new bulb and put it in and see if its the same 3 cycles i bet its not