Yields

I used to do shower grows perfect size for one light
do clones, veg for one week in 2 gallon bags of soilles but the yes is number of plants. 20- 30 12 inch plant will yeild you once of top bud per plant do the math but condition need to be on water light. nuts and tlc(

ELee said:

I was thinking of using a shower curtain instead. would that work? i didn't grow that plant in there. the setup i used was just a simple desklamp and a halogen..... it should also be in the album. thanks for all the help. and as for the mean part... I'm all man, i can take it. as long as it's good honest advice feel free to smack me in the head all you want! hahaha I'm here to learn! My feeling are on the back burner for now. sometimes a lil asskickin helps you absorb knowledge better!!! LOL

Thanks FL Girl!

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any more pics?

ELee said:

Thank you buddy. I got dutch seeds but this is my first grow so i used bag seed. I have big bug witch should give me those kinda yields....... but height is a prob for me. i hear talk that the SOG method would make it happen. but that's really short veg then flower. would that work? I know I need more light. I only used a 23 watt cfl for this grow! but everyone says my results are impressive. would better nutes and light be any help? I only used MG for this grow

thanks for the help

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Hey man if its only your first grow and your using 23watts you ain't even going to get an ounce. Think about it like this, most pro growers aim for 1 gram of dried cannabis per 1 watt of light used for the grow, so if a pro used a 1000watt light he would be aiming to get 1000 + grams of ganja, since this is your first grow you will be very lucky if you get half a gram per watt. The best option for you is to get a 1000w light, some good genetics, and a good growing environment Hope this helps and hey don't rush anything, you got loads of time.

Later
Grow Ops

Yup, I got an album full...... check out my profile!

Hey grow ops...... take a look at the plant. That looks like more that an ounce to me. or did you mean dry weight? which i really don't care too much about. as long as the volume of it stays good.

man whatever happens youve kept her alive , how long she been flowering now?
if you still got a few weeks scope into a cfl or floro maybe for a cheap bulk up option that can be used from start when u try again.
Ill be happy if i end up with sumthin like u
dogs a beauty!

wow, thats all i have to say..... you need to read more alot more

i dnt have time right now but for 30 bucks you can make a lot more out of your setup as for 400 grams, i use a 400w hps and dnt get that much.... i could and have but its not worth it to grow them big plants

I have seen them short....... not even 4 feet tall. With more than 400gr. on it! I have already learned that you can't trust everything you read. So, don't think it can't happen just because you couldn't make it happen. My plant that was grow with a halogen work light and a 23 watt cfl looks very comprable to the plants I've seen grown with 400 watt HID's. I'm sure somebody is gonna come along with the secret! So, just remember all that we are reading are opinions. We can never read 100% facts until Mother Nature herself writes a book!

Chazel, I went and got the new cfl's today. I'm gonna have to rig up that box to put them in. I was thinking of putting a 300 on top.....and a 300 on the bottom. That should be pretty much 360 degree light. Should I also invest in a reflector? and should I remove the light covers off of the tube lights or leave them on? Not sure if removing them would change the spectrum of light.

Here's a pic of the plant. So, folks can understand the reason why I can't believe all i read.

ELee said:

Here's a pic of the plant. So, folks can understand the reason why I can't believe all i read.

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Dude your crazy

Do you care to explain why??????? Or were you just in a name callin mood???

ELee said:

Do you care to explain why??????? Or were you just in a name callin mood???

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i would imagine you were called crazy for your setup.... it sucks, im glad it worked for you but it really does suck. all the info you need is on this site you just gotta read it. you could spend 30 bucks on cfls and increase your yeild dramatically, those halogen work lights are mostly just keeping your plants warm they produce more heat than useable light, get rid of them and get some cfls or the 20 dollar 150w econolight hps deal that ppl always talk about.

just because youve seen ppl pul 400 grams off a 4 foot plant does not make it practical. even growing in hydro you need to veg and train a plant for a long time to get that kind of yeild off a 400 watter and you got nuthin. just read and do it right you want those kinds of yeilds you dnt need to grow trees but you do need to get more light a, 400 watter 2 5 gallon buckets and lst 2 plants under that light veg for at least 2 months keep your canopy even and flower for 2-3 months and you will get 400 grams. i pull 8-10 oz. off my light every 2 months, i veg in a seperate room while flowering... and remember noone here likes a cocky attitude so dnt get pissed when you dnt get the answer you want...

hey leave the kid alone he's just talkin hypothetics and kid listen to what they're sayin they're talkin sense.

its true that you can get lucky and you truly did. i could never imagine anyone could get a fat ass plant like that with a 30-whatever watt light but the truth is if you wanna be rakin in a fat harvest you need to listen up. truth is a shower curtain would be better than black but mylar is £2 a square meter. big lights are better than small ones as you have paid attention, its good to see your upgrading. most importantly read LOADS. i researched so much before i grew and i am again now seeing as i will be doing so again soon. but if you pay attention to all the little bits that is how you will consistently get a great harvest. its true you can get lucky but these guys are talking on average, and on average a 400g grow is a big ask. its saying a meter squared sea of green with a 400/600/1000w light with tender care.

but seriously, that first plant is super. i did a basic grow with a single 23 w for most of the way with like the last 4 weeks with a 125w envirolite and surprised people too but dont get too cocky. just as it can go lucky you can get unlucky and get under or your plants can catch a disease etc. my best advice is research and practice.

peace out. i hope i've helped

Tussletussle is right on. Im not a name caller dude, i just think you need to do more research. I read this site and books for months before I started (and I have been around this for years, just never did it myself) and I have a 400 and I got close to 8 & 1/2 zippers my first, and I was super psyched with that! All my growin buddies said Id get a quper. Anyway, 400-600 grs per plant with that set-up? c'mon dude.... dont dwell on yields anyway just grow and have fun. Im not trying to be a dick at all by the way. I wish you lots of luck

I have done research. I was just bored and never expected it to get that far. I been askin everybody's opinion on my new setup but no one seems to have anything to say about it!! I have 23 acres of soybeans and wheat in NC so I know how to grow! Well, outdoors anyway!! hahaha

Oh yeah, and I know 400-600 can't be done with that set up..... but most of y'all wit HID's never get that either! So, that is why I'm tryin to find out the secret to it... feel me? But please understand I was in no way offended by the crazy comment. I just wanted some info to go along with it. Now back to the yield question, I had a grower from Amsterdam tell me the secret. but his english was very poor or i was just too damn stoned.. but i do remember him talkin about going back to veggin after flowering a bit the one he had was like 5 years old! I'mm use Skype to call over there and tell them to get there asses on here! The swiss do a hell of a job too. There is a secret to it, and I'm determined to milk it outta somebody! If you guys dont mind take a look at the new setup and maybe tell me what it's missin! I know I'll proably need more light.

By the way that dresser is not where i grew this plant. that's where i plan to put the next batch! I'm tryin to find out everything i should get so i can have it ready by the time this plant is done curing! One more thing, what about bubbleponics? Is that an easy system to use? I been thinking about getting that with the 430 son agro. I never plan to have more that 6 plants. I don't need the cash, I just hate paying for something that literally grows on trees!!! HAHAHAHA

Thanks Y'all!

the plant in Panhead's avatar on this thread is my goal!

ther are no secrets all the info is on this site and in books, what your frnd prolly does is have a mother thats 5 yrs old and after ho harvests he reveges to get a 2nd and possible third harvest from the same plant, ive never done it b4 but here it works well, i feel that in the time it takes to reveg and flower again i can flower a difrnt plant and get more out of it

THERE ARE NO SECRETS

bubble\dwc is easy areo is better i think soil is easiest, ive done all three and just switched back to soil after a year of hydro

People keep telling you to add more lights and you just keep ignoring them. Then you say that nobody is offering advice on how to improve your setup. I'm amazed that people have indulged you this long. Ever hear of the GrowFAQ? There is lots of essential reading there. Most of the people that know what they're talking about started there. You could stand to do the same. Get rid of those fucking halogen lights and add some CFL's. That's the best thing you can do, trust me. You've been lucky so far, now you just need to heed the advice you're getting here and step up your game. Peace.