you can cure cancer but you cant cure STUPID!

couchlock907

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NBC News
updated 9/10/2012 8:28:10 AM ET 2012-09-10T12:28:10

Some blunt advice for the young, male fans of marijuana: You may want to kill that joint and clutch your crotch -- self-check style, that is.
Scientists at the University of Southern California say they've detected a link between recreational marijuana use and a greater chance among males in their early teens through their mid-30s of contracting a particularly dangerous form of testicular cancer -- non-seminoma tumors, according to a small study published today online in CANCER, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Cancer Society.
"The group that is at risk for developing these tumors is overwhelmingly young men. They should be looking and paying attention to changes in their testicles anyway," said Victoria Cortessis, one of the study's authors and an assistant professor of preventive medicine at the Keck School of Medicine of USC in Los Angeles.
Further, the fellas' weed intake "might be something they would want to mention to their usual health-care provider."

Cortessis and her colleagues analyzed the self-reported recreational drug use of 163 young men who had been diagnosed with testicular cancer. Among those patients who acknowledged indulging in pot, just over half (51 percent) told medical researchers they puffed or ingested cannabis more than once per week.
The team then compared the illegal drug histories of those 163 afflicted men with the lifestyle habits of 292 healthy men of the same age and ethnicity. Inside the data, they saw that men who had used marijuana recreationally were twice as likely to develop mixed-germ-cell tumors, including the deadlier non-seminona tumors. (The 292 unaffected men were "sampled" from the same neighborhoods in which the ill men had lived at the time of their diagnoses, Cortessis said.)
"These tumors usually occur in younger men and carry a somewhat worse prognosis" than other types of testicular cancer, the study reported. Moreover, the USC findings confirmed two previous reports in CANCER of an apparent link between marijuana use and cancer of the testicles, the researchers noted.
Still, the rate of such cancers occurring in men is relatively low: There is a lifetime risk of slightly more than 1 percent, Cortessis said.
"The truth is, the vast majority of men who develop testicular germ-cell tumors survive them. There's still a small proportion that don't. Those guys tend to have non-seminonas, unfortunately," Cortessis said. "But also, non-seminomas require more extensive treatment, including radiation and chemotherapy.
"We're not concerned only with preventing non-seminomas so that the malignancy doesn't harm the man, but we're also concerned about the later health effects for men that may be related to the more-aggressive therapy" (such as chemo), she added.
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So, why would weed wield such woes for some cojones in some dudes?
The USC scientists are unsure exactly what internal glitches marijuana may trigger that could cause cancer. But they speculate that the process may begin in the body's endocannabinoid system, which is the cellular network that responds to the active ingredient in marijuana. That same system has been shown to be vital in the formation of sperm. The study was was funded by the National Cancer Institute.
The researchers also invested a few words of their report to speak directly to the young men living in the 17 states where medicinal marijuana is legal, stating: "The findings suggest that the potential cancer-causing effects of marijuana on testicular cells should be considered not only in personal decisions regarding recreational drug use, but also when marijuana and its derivatives are used for therapeutic purposes."
At medical marijuana dispensaries in Washington state and California, that stance not surprisingly drew swift retorts.
At the Harborside Health Center in Oakland, the proprietors read the USC study on Friday afternoon, then promptly emailed to NBC News a news link to a recent study in Madrid in which cannabis was found to be a cancer fighter.
"The LA study stands in contrast to several recent studies which have found that cannabis actually has cancer fighting properties," said Steve DeAngelo, co-founder of Harborside. "The LA study is reporting a correlation, as opposed to a causal connection between cannabis use and the cancers. It is a well-established scientific principle that correlation does not equal causality.
"I would also note that the sample size is quite small," DeAngelo added, "and the size of the control group is double that of the cannabis users."
Two states to the north, at Seattle's Northwest Patient Resource Center, chief executive John Davis argued that any person taking therapeutic drugs should know that all of those otherwise beneficial substances carry some health hazards.
"And with a lot of them," Davis said, "the risk is death.
"If you're using (marijuana) medicinally, you should understand the risks and the benefits, just like any other therapy," Davis added. "Marijuana, in general, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances on Earth. Can it have some side effects? Yeah. But compared to pharmaceutical drugs, those side effects are much less."
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oh my aching balls!!!!

seriously, i dont get mad easy or often, but all these "medical discoveries" really get my blood boiling. weed makes you dumb, makes you crazy, makes you antisocial, makes you smell funny, dress funny, look funny, blah blah fekkin blah. but testicular cancer???? i know pot growers have more balls than most peeps but fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

i cant wait for the next big discovery. when they gonna "discover" that smoking weed makes you happy?
 

OGEvilgenius

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I see a lot of problems with this study. The control is much larger than the test group, it's a small sample, it's not causal and in general flies in the face of hundreds of other studies done. And it was sponsored by a questionable institution with questionable motives (despite their rhetoric, actions speak louder than words).

I also would love to see the question list and controls they put in place (beyond the ones mentioned in the article) because a study like this there are a lot of potential variables.

No doubt this one will get more press than the other much more promising studies done showing the opposite.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I see a lot of problems with this study. The control is much larger than the test group, it's a small sample, it's not causal and in general flies in the face of hundreds of other studies done. And it was sponsored by a questionable institution with questionable motives (despite their rhetoric, actions speak louder than words).

I also would love to see the question list and controls they put in place (beyond the ones mentioned in the article) because a study like this there are a lot of potential variables.

No doubt this one will get more press than the other much more promising studies done showing the opposite.
Which questionable institution? I see the ACA and USC, two rather solid organizations. cn
 

patrickkawi37

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from the bits and pieces ive read and learned.. most people get cancer because they dont know how to treat there body. if you eat right, take your vitamins, drink alot of water, and still get cancer.. well thats some shitty luck. but most people that have health problems, you got to admit one way or the other, it was self inflicted.. the percentage of people getting cancer and the percentage of people getting heart disease, diabetes all going UP. so if you want to believe that weed is going to give you cancer go ahead and do so. but im going to believe that it was those hot pockets and soda you ingested for 10 straight years. lets do a study of people that eat all organic and and proper diet vs someone on the mcdonalds\hotpocket\corn fed diet.. see whos getting cancer
 

dvs1038

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Is the Chicken ok at McD's or does it give u the cancer too? Or can u order it with ur cancer on the side?
 

smok3h

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"The LA study stands in contrast to several recent studies which have found that cannabis actually has cancer fighting properties," said Steve DeAngelo, co-founder of Harborside. "The LA study is reporting a correlation, as opposed to a causal connection between cannabis use and the cancers. It is a well-established scientific principle that correlation does not equal causality.
"I would also note that the sample size is quite small," DeAngelo added, "and the size of the control group is double that of the cannabis users."
This^^^^^^
 

Samwell Seed Well

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more BS from BS city covered in BS with a glass of warm goat piss


from the article itself!!!!

"More frequent use of marijuana did not increase cancer risk. In fact, those who used marijuana less than once a week were at increased risk of developing testicular cancer, but those who used it more frequently were not."


 

ClaytonBigsby

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Whatever you do, DO NOT tell your doctor. They will put it in your PERMANENT medical records. "Patient reports marijuana use". Medical records are going all digital. The doctors I see type everything I say into their laptops right in front of me. If you think insurance won't try to weasel out of covering you for something in 20 years, blaming your "recreational use" you are an idiot. Treat your doctor like the police. Tell them only enough to get treated for your visit.
 

george xxx

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Which questionable institution? I see the ACA and USC, two rather solid organizations. cn
Reputable institutions yes. Having cancer and having read many of their studies over the past 16 years it is not hard to see that they tend to go along with whatever the sponsor would like them to say. Controversy is the name of the game when there are millions of research dollars at stake. Bottom line is screw the research just keep the money flowing.

you can cure cancer but you can’t cure STUPID!
This is both controversial and stupid. There is no such thing as a cure for cancer.

Cancer a multi-billion dollar industry with a very bright future as long as no one comes up with a cure.
 

drolove

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well this seems to be a conflicting arguement from what we've already been told about cannabis and cancer.
 
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