your yields

I average about 1.15gpw I run 9-12 plants in 3 gallon pots under a 600 on a 4x4 table and can easily hit 2oz. per plant at least. This BTW is if I only use the 12 pots and do not fill in my empty light spaces with smaller plants in square pots or 1 gallon smart pots holding clones that get 3 days of veg then into flower.

If I do that I can break 1.5gpw consistently depending on strain.

I am now looking into some strains I feel can help me break the illusive 2gpw mark; which I feel with proper selection and plant shaping this could be achieved. BTW I am using a flat growing surface not a coliseum, stadium, or anything fancy... plain white botanicare flood table. CNS-17, COCO, Smart Pots.... flood and drain to waste.

I do nothing special and consider myself an average grower. Once of the biggest failings I see commonly on this forum is the poor utilization of your light footprint!!

Anyone one whom thinks my goals are unrealistic just needs to think about this way, 12 plants 3 gallon smart pots each plant finished about 3.5 ft. tall and should yield .75-1 oz. a gallon of container size. and I set my targets lower to avoid disappointments I actually am ok with 1.5-2oz. per 3 gallon pot.

Shoot I know some cash croppers doing SOG on flat flood tables that consitantly can break 2gpw. using aircooled 1000's and if they weren't making at least 1.25gpw on his "low yield kushes" would be extremely disappointed. They run GH 3-part, rockwool, and koolbloom powder.

At least 50% of yields depends on genetics. The rest are on the growing conditions.

Strain dependent I get about 0.6 to 1.1 in SOG.

Usually the more branching the more yield in my case,the budding plant i have now has a shit load of branches(12/12 from seed) even after i cut 6 branches off to clone and those clones have a shit load of branches too,im thinking of keeping one of the clones as a mother and keep cloning her.

ive heard 1gram per watt, and would be exstatic about getting that! it takes alot of money to get money! thats a for sure!

depends on so many dif things..great way to explain a set up tho!

All veg packed tight under T8 lighting. I save my available amps for flower power.

Green Crack v 2wk f 8 wks - .65g/watt. Super Silver Haze v 1wk f 9 wk - .56g/watt. Super Silver Haze v 1wk f 12 wk - .75 g/watt.

Northern Lights is looking like it will be about v2 wks f 9 wks. .65g.watt. i have not given it a mono-culture opportunity yet.

Middle ground is...
Sweet Tooth 1.1 and Apollo 11 v 2-3 wks f 8 wks - .35g/watt

My LOWEST yielding plant is Deep Chunk x G13 8 wks - .25g/watt. Amazing indica though...

The largest bump I saw in my "average" grow room was from increasing the amount of air being brought in from directly outdoors. My yields bumped right after.

With what i grow (White Russian) i tend to get an OZ yeild per gallon in soil using all fox farm stuff.

what do some of you guys average per pot?! Or per plant?!

Some of the numbers/yields I see on here are very low.

BTW hitting nice GPW does not take alot of $$$$ just takes time, proper light footprint utilization, and strain selection/canopy control which is generally strain dependent.

Apollo: That is pretty good, cause 9 plants under a 600 in 3 gallon pots if you hit 3oz a plant would easily break the 1gpw mark. Or should come damn close if you don't quite hit the benchmark of 1oz. per gallon.

HeartlandHank said:

All veg packed tight under T8 lighting. I save my available amps for flower power.

Green Crack v 2wk f 8 wks - .65g/watt. Super Silver Haze v 1wk f 9 wk - .56g/watt. Super Silver Haze v 1wk f 12 wk - .75 g/watt.

Northern Lights is looking like it will be about v2 wks f 9 wks. .65g.watt. i have not given it a mono-culture opportunity yet.

Middle ground is...
Sweet Tooth 1.1 and Apollo 11 v 2-3 wks f 8 wks - .34g/watt

My LOWEST yielding plant is Deep Chunk x G13 8 wks - .25g/watt. Amazing indica though...

The largest bump I saw in my "average" grow room was from increasing the amount of air being brought in from directly outdoors. My yields bumped right after.

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Quoting myself to keep the info intact...

Green Crack, Super Silver Haze (9 and 12 wk), Northern Lights - 4 plants per 600hps, 3 gallon pots. (still experimenting) 3.5 oz per plant.

Apollo, Sweet Tooth 1.1 - alternate 4 and 5 per 600hps (5 - 4 - 5) 1800watts. 2 gallon pots. 1.6 oz per plant

Deep Chunk x G13 - last time went with 6 per 600. 2 gallon pots. less than an oz per plant.

Apollo Green said:

With what i grow (White Russian) i tend to get an OZ yeild per gallon in soil using all fox farm stuff.

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Yield per gallon is an interesting way to measure yield. I did notice a large bump when I left the 2 gallon behind and went with 3 gallon. Just now experimenting with 5.

Perhaps it is a good way to measure.

xxEMOxx said:

what do some of you guys average per pot?! Or per plant?!

Some of the numbers/yields I see on here are very low.

BTW hitting nice GPW does not take alot of $$$$ just takes time, proper light footprint utilization, and strain selection/canopy control which is generally strain dependent.

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I didn't want to be the guy who said it... but if you are going to go there... GPW is not much of an accurate measurement. Even taking quality out of the picture, it still is not a very accurate measurement of efficiency. It is a general idea of what you are doing... but it's not like it wins cups, gets you a credit on your electric bill, or gives you an extra "garden work free" day a week if you hit a gpw.

If you include veg time and wattage... that helps the measurement quite a bit.
Scrog vs sit a plant in a pot and water it is two totally different things. Try getting through 4.5 flower cycles in a year with a scrog.

What is it that you are getting? GPW?

My yields where posted above, but GPW is a crappy measurement for sure, as everyone uses their light footprint differently.

You said yourself you run 4-6 plants in 3 gallons per 600, I run 9-12 3 gallons per 600. SO right there I have double the number of plants.... thereby increasing my overall yield generally. This is like I had stated before not counting supplemental or "fill-in" plants to take up existing open areas within the footprint.

Grams or OZ. per gallon would actually be a better measurement as this tends to help give a more realistic picture to what can/should thought of as the norm or ave. for a given volume of medium.

I had stated my GPW is roughly 1.15 on average with some strains hitting in the higher 1.75 and some of my lower yielding stuff in the .75ish range.

I get roughly 2oz. give or take per 3 gallon smart pot with coco..... my details I believe are either on page 2 or 3 in regards to my GPW numbers and the math and such.

xxEMOxx said:

My yields where posted above, but GPW is a crappy measurement for sure, as everyone uses their light footprint differently.

You said yourself you run 4-6 plants in 3 gallons per 600, I run 9-12 3 gallons per 600. SO right there I have double the number of plants.... thereby increasing my overall yield generally. This is like I had stated before not counting supplemental or "fill-in" plants to take up existing open areas within the footprint.

Grams or OZ. per gallon would actually be a better measurement as this tends to help give a more realistic picture to what can/should thought of as the norm or ave. for a given volume of medium.

I had stated my GPW is roughly 1.15 on average with some strains hitting in the higher 1.75 and some of my lower yielding stuff in the .75ish range.

I get roughly 2oz. give or take per 3 gallon smart pot with coco..... my details I believe are either on page 2 or 3 in regards to my GPW numbers and the math and such.

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Damn brother. You're killing it.

I don't know about more plants = more grams. Not in my experience. It doesn't sound like something someone who pulls well over a gpw consistently would say either. Like you did say though, it is way more about utilizing what the light is giving off.

Looking at your plants from last May... "Purple Veins and Stems" thread... it looks like all that cramming in plants has a bit of powdery mildew up in your grow. Pics 2,3,7,12 all clearly show powdery mildew. I'm surprised it never came up in the thread.

That was my problem I have with my Deep Chunk x G13. I could probably increase that yield with a sog. But powdery mildew seems to come in to any grow that i cram more than 5-6 indicas under one 600hps.

Genetic selecting of PM resistance has been my thing for the last 2 years. Which usually means less dense buds. Which sucks.

xxEMOxx said:

My yields where posted above, but GPW is a crappy measurement for sure, as everyone uses their light footprint differently.

You said yourself you run 4-6 plants in 3 gallons per 600, I run 9-12 3 gallons per 600. SO right there I have double the number of plants.... thereby increasing my overall yield generally. This is like I had stated before not counting supplemental or "fill-in" plants to take up existing open areas within the footprint.

Grams or OZ. per gallon would actually be a better measurement as this tends to help give a more realistic picture to what can/should thought of as the norm or ave. for a given volume of medium.

I had stated my GPW is roughly 1.15 on average with some strains hitting in the higher 1.75 and some of my lower yielding stuff in the .75ish range.

I get roughly 2oz. give or take per 3 gallon smart pot with coco..... my details I believe are either on page 2 or 3 in regards to my GPW numbers and the math and such.

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So, you're saying that if I grow in 9-12 3 gallon pots under a 75w light I should be able to get 2oz per plant?

Of course not...why in the world would you try to measure yield success by the volume of medium used? That's just silly

GPW is the only standard because it is the only measurable constant across ALL gardens.

No what I said, I used my example of how I run my 600's as that is how he runs his as well. 9-12 plants in 3 gallons is not useful for a 75watt light.

YOu must match your plant/pot size to light footprint..... so like for a 75watt idk.


Hank: Also in regards to my last May stuff, that is way old; and PM has been a huge prob. here in So. Cal I mean bad... clones taken from mothers which have a genetic predisposition to it. Almost where people are starting to think govt. had made a new strain on purpose. What people don't remember or keep in mind is even if you are running clones bought from a dispensary now have pm like in its genetic lines and it generally doesnt tend to show itself til later in veg/early flower.

PM is the plague of California growers now its horrid... you can keep it in check, but you can't kill it, and like it said it will pass from mother to clone even in a dormant state once affected. my new garden I have had 0 issues with PM since leaving clones behind. Anyway do not take my old old stuff i.e. from last year as a many of record as like I said that is 8ish seasons of so now....

This has caused me to do everything from beans as of lately. Which for me keeps the p.m. under control. Still airflow and movement through the canopy will help limit it, but once making the move to beans I have had no problems with pm crammed in or not.

Anyway, I am not on here to brag or boost.... just really want to help people get educated and understand that larger yield numbers are achievable without insane custom buildout's and tons of $$$$

Think about this if your pulling like 500ish grams from each 1000 watter. This is like a lb. and then you have like 3 months power usage and nutes, and all the other factors, for a cash cropper rent and bills etc. Once its all said and done your in it 3ish months and are barely hitting 2800-3200k ( of course pending you have an option to offload and the dispensarys aren't driving prices down to ridiculous lows) maybe that is like about a grand a month.

Might as well work a real job you would make more money with less risk......