Unclebaldrick
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What's the end game for this guy? Is he going to stay and die or bail?
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Zelensky: Martyr or Exile?
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Paul Drake
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Neither
He won’t die nor bail imho.
He won’t die nor bail imho.
Unclebaldrick
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You think that the invasion will be less than complete I'm guessing?
I don't. I think Russia will meet their objectives within a week or two.
If I were him I would exile in Poland. He's means too much to Ukraine to allow them to kill him.
CunningCanuk
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It doesn’t look like he’s willing to live in exile, though. His stoicism and leadership has been a big contributor to his people’s will to keep fighting and he seems prepared to die for the cause.
captainmorgan
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Without direct NATO intervention it's hard to see Ukraine not fall. One thing we don't know is how many Russian troops are busy trying to control the uprising in Kazakhstan and if the whole central Asian area is unstable and how many troops will be needed to keep order. It's one thing for the mad midgets military to kill and destroy and another to occupy and mainttain order after, the numbers don't work, Russia doesn't have the manpower.
Unclebaldrick
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I fear he might take that decision. I hope not.
hanimmal
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Welp, according to MSNBC, Putin just cut power (they didn't word it this way) to Chernobyl. So I am guessing it is going to be Martyr, but it is hard to know who will be left to be a martyr for.
Hard to not get fatalistic about this at this point.
China needs to step up and put an end to Putin's shit.
Hard to not get fatalistic about this at this point.
China needs to step up and put an end to Putin's shit.
Unclebaldrick
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Not gonna happen.
Unclebaldrick
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To clarify, I think the resistance will go on despite Russia meeting their military objectives. After they do, it will get worse for everyone.
captainmorgan
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The only way it stops is the mad midget is removed or killed by Russians.
Kassiopeija
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The Russians will try to weaken Pro-Ukraine/Pro-Democracy stance by searching out and taking these away into Siberian gulags under the pretense of "De-nazification" or "war-crimes".
Turning Ukraine into a semi-totalitarian gestapo state like the DDR, where Pro-Russians still could enjoy lots of freedoms/rights, but "otherthinkers" were largely suppressed.
And they may do this with the current political Ukraine parties as well... "free folk votes" like in Belarus
Unclebaldrick
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Yup.
captainmorgan
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Maybe the mad midget has done the math and knows he can't occupy a country of that size with a hostile population so he's just going to destroy it. He can do that but it can just be rebuilt after he leaves, I'm worried he will use the nuclear materials in Ukraine for dirty bombs to make the country unusable, if the mad midget can't have Ukraine no one will.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's mud season in Ukraine and the land will have to dry out for military maneuvers, everybody is confined to the roads choked with his logistics. In a few weeks Ukraine will have millions of men under arms with former soviet weapons, mostly partisans. Truck convoys are bringing shit in, even to eastern Ukraine and Kyiv, Kyiv still has open rail lines to the south and the place is full of soviet era nuclear bomb shelters. Transports are being diverted from eastern polish airports because of traffic jams and a lot of the tractor trailers in the EU are inside Ukraine with volunteer drivers. By the time Vlad's might army of reservists and junk gets there they will face a million man regular army, most of whom will be combat troops.
They are going after the logistics of the force there now and could defeat them deep inside the country and in the south unless help arrives soon.
I'd say Zelenskiy will make it and if he does, there will be a Nobel peace prize in it!
Unclebaldrick
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Russia won't leave Ukraine. They will install a puppet government who will ask them to stay.
captainmorgan
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Russia has a population of 145,000,000 and Ukraine has 41,000,000. They don't have enough for occupying and control,and any puppet will fail.
Unclebaldrick
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As you can see in America, at least one in three people are of such poor character that they will betray the others in exchange for personal power or privilege.
There are plenty of Ukrainians that will suppress their own countrymen and those people can count on Russian military strength to back them up.
captainmorgan
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We shall see I guess.