Zimmerman sues NBC

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

Truncheon said:
FBI Unified Crime Statistics demonstrate beyond refutation, that ~60% of all violent crime in America is committed by young black men, who comprise ~5% of the population. The reason Zimmerman was part of a security patrol was precisely because of this sort of behavior on the part of young black males. A pattern of behavior that anyone who lives in proximity with young black males is aware of.

"We" defend Zimmerman because common sense and experience indicates that a violent altercation with a young, black male is overwhelmingly caused by the aggression of a young, black male. There remains no evidence of any sort that does other than condemn the young, black male. As one would expect. As any resident of America with normative intellect would expect.

Add to that the blatant editing of the 911 recordings, the media-advanced "iced tea and skittles" narrative, the partisan selection of angelic gradeschool photos, and calling a Hispanic male "white", and anyone with a functioning brain knows the score.

I hope this ends up like the Duke Lacross fiasco, and some folks at NBC get harmed financially.

them young negroes smoke the reefer and fight with the strength of 50 white males!

it's science!

:dunce:

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

skunky33 said:
I'm not a lefty. You think everyone who disagrees with you is a "lefty" I'm sure. Well, there's two sides to every story. NBC didn't charge Z, you think the prosecutor got Z's information from NBC? That's ridiculous. You probably think Martin had it coming. Whatever the real story is I don't know. But the police really didn't do their job. They didn't give Zimmerman a drug test but they gave Martin one. Z was on Meth aka Aderall chasing someone while he was armed. It's 95% positive that it was Martin who was screaming. They won't allow that into court because it's not 100% I think Zimmerman got mad cause he was getting his ass beat and shot Martin. Who attacked who first? nobody knows. Unless you think Zimmerman is reliable. Witness' at court said he was a racist bully. But you probably didn't hear any of that. FOX actually makes you more ignorant, it's been proven.

You have absolutely no room to talk. The right wing media stated that Martin was 6'3 Martin was 6'0" They lied about his weight, said he was a gang member, that he was on drugs, posted false pictures of him, making him look like a thug. I'm sure you bought all that shit and still believe it.

The breadth and depth of your misconceptions and ignorance of the facts of the case, the mob mentality that forced the political decision to charge Zimmerman, and ignorance of Florida law are breath taking. My compliments, you will fit right in here with Buck and cheeseater.

Truncheon · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
them young negroes smoke the reefer and fight with the strength of 50 white males!

Now that you've got that out of your system, perhaps you'd like to challenge anything I said, such as the FBI Uniform Crime statistics. They are pretty scientific, you know. Perhaps you're not up on current events, but the failure of the black family and the associated radical crime rates are common knowledge that isn't in dispute anywhere in this country.

Then you could justify the editing of the 911 recording, calling a Hispanic man "white", and the amusing photo selections. Do proceed.

Or, if you prefer, you could just fall back on infantile schoolyard taunts.

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
nope, the arab looking guy he made fun of at work is only one of many.

Zimmermans attorney, Mark OMara, is trying to seal statements from Witness 9″, a woman believed to be Zimmermans ex-girlfriend, who says Zimmerman has racist ideologies.

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/george-zimmermans-ex-girlfriend-says-hes-a-racist/

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA. Damn, Buck, you are just a regular Pravda when it comes to dissemination of reliable info. An ex girl friend has an axe to grind against her ex boy friend, and it is extensively document in "yourblackworld"? Do tell.

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

cannabineer said:
Your carrot/stick combo notwithstanding ...
the single biggest piece of physical evidence is Z's bullet in T's body. Physical evidence alone cannot discern between a righteous defense shooting and a picked fight gone bad. I accept that in that instance he'd be acquitted.
As for the other stuff, no comment. Race politics in the USA are a filthy thing, but don't allow such a categorical outcome as you suggest ... imo. cn

Go and read the Florida SYG statute and you will discover (surprise!!!) that even a fight started by an "aggressor" can be ended with a legitimate self defense shooting by the person who started the fight.

Not that ANYBODY has legitimately supported a claim that Zimmerman "picked" the fight where ALL of the injuries, except the bullet hole in the chest, were sustained by Zimmerman.

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
if it wasn't credible, why did o'mara try to suppress it? just playing devil's advocate, i'm not sure how credible it is.

You are playing dummy's advocate, a recurring role for you, if you are in doubt about why O'mara would suppress irrelevant and prejudicial testimony.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

Truncheon said:
Now that you've got that out of your system, perhaps you'd like to challenge anything I said, such as the FBI Uniform Crime statistics. They are pretty scientific, you know. Perhaps you're not up on current events, but the failure of the black family and the associated radical crime rates are common knowledge that isn't in dispute.

Then you could justify the editing of the 911 recording, calling a Hispanic man "white", and the amusing photo selections. Do proceed.

Or, if you prefer, you could just fall back on infantile schoolyard taunts.

that melanin is strong stuff. i hear boxers shoot up with melanin before fights to give themselves some of that super-negro strength.

and your racial purity standard is pretty awesome too. zimm has a white dad and a peruvian mother: thus he is NOT white.

more of that one drop rule awesomeness.

well played, sir.

cannabineer · Dec 10, 2012

At the same time, Desert Dude, it cannot be claimed for one hot second that he didn't.

And while I admit that this is a nitpick, T's hands were hurt by his kidpunches connecting with some of Z's most durable anatomical features. cn

MuyLocoNC · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
so you're calling zimmerman a liar? zimmerman was lying when he told serino that he was being suffocated, that martin had pressure on his nose and mouth, suffocating him?

because that's your other option. let me spell them out for you.

A) zimmerman was never actually suffocated because people who are being suffocated can't scream, so the screams came from martin.

B) zimmerman lied about being suffocated and was indeed screaming.

you choose.

I'll choose option C that you keep trying to avoid.

C) Martin was using his hand or hands in an attempt to impede Zimmerman's breathing. Hence the use of the word "suffocating" by Zimmerman. Zimmerman is resisting the attempt as we would expect anyone to do, by trying to dislodge Martin's hands. Zimmerman is screaming for help on and off as Martin's hands are dislodged and reapplied.

This is perfectly believable unless you are trying to say that Zimmerman's use of the word "suffocate" instead of "attempted suffocation" means that Zimmerman is claiming Martin's hands never came away from his mouth. Since Zimmerman would OBVIOUSLY know that would involve his own death, I think it's fair to say he meant Martin ATTEMPTED UNSUCCESSFULLY to suffocate him.

Anyone with any sense can see how a person could scream DURING a failed suffocation attempt. Just because Zimmerman assumed the cops knew the attempt was unsuccessful by the fact he's sitting there talking to them, and used the description "suffocated" instead of talking to them like they are fucking morons and spelling out "failed suffocation attempt", doesn't mean anything other than UB is trying like hell to validate his premature presumption of guilt.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

desert dude said:
Go and read the Florida SYG statute and you will discover (surprise!!!) that even a fight started by an "aggressor" can be ended with a legitimate self defense shooting by the person who started the fight.

so he had full wrist control but was unable to get away?

seems legit, sistah.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

desert dude said:
You are playing dummy's advocate, a recurring role for you, if you are in doubt about why O'mara would suppress irrelevant and prejudicial testimony.

why would he try to suppress info if it was all just garbage? garbage speaks for itself. see zimmerman.

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
that's what i call 'the bigot's assumption'. for some reason they think that the kid who RAN AWAY was the aggressor.

just retarded.

I will identify the bigot's assumption for you, Bucky, it's assuming that Zimmerman threw the first punch when THE ONLY MARK ON MARTIN was skinned knuckles.

Oh, by, "first punch" you meant when Zimmerman violently threw his face into Martin's knuckles? I guess you have a point.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

MuyLocoNC said:
I'll choose option C that you keep trying to avoid.

C) Martin was using his hand or hands in an attempt to impede Zimmerman's breathing. Hence the use of the word "suffocating" by Zimmerman. Zimmerman is resisting the attempt as we would expect anyone to do, by trying to dislodge Martin's hands. Zimmerman is screaming for help on and off as Martin's hands are dislodged and reapplied.

This is perfectly believable unless you are trying to say that Zimmerman's use of the word "suffocate" instead of "attempted suffocation" means that Zimmerman is claiming Martin's hands never came away from his mouth. Since Zimmerman would OBVIOUSLY know that would involve his own death, I think it's fair to say he meant Martin ATTEMPTED UNSUCCESSFULLY to suffocate him.

Anyone with any sense can see how a person could scream DURING a failed suffocation attempt. Just because Zimmerman assumed the cops knew the attempt was unsuccessful by the fact he's sitting there talking to them, and used the description "suffocated" instead of talking to them like they are fucking morons and spelling out "failed suffocation attempt", doesn't mean anything other than UB is trying like hell to validate his premature presumption of guilt.

dude, even the interrogators looked into your "screaming for help on and off as Martin's hands are dislodged and reapplied" theory during the interrogations, they weren't buying it. they were even playing the screams as they interrogated him, having him explain as they went.

do you need me to tie your fucking shoes for you as well?

either get familiar with ALL the available facts of the case, or just go sit in the corner and throw peanuts at imaginary skewed polls.

Truncheon · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
well played, sir.

Played? The only person "playing" here is you. I'm not into sandbox dabbling, however. Should you ever desire an adult conversation, let me know, though it seems highly unlikely that you'll ever attempt one.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

Truncheon said:
Played? The only person "playing" here is you. I'm not into sandbox dabbling, however. Should you ever desire an adult conversation, let me know.

by adult conversation, do you mean one where we ascribe magical properties to melanin and maintain race as a social construct that best fits our limited worldviews?

:lol:

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

Trolling said:
Maybe he missed? Maybe Martin blocked it?

Gosh, I had not considered that. Well, that settles it. Based on those irrefutable facts Zimmerman is clearly a murderer.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

desert dude said:
I will identify the bigot's assumption for you, Bucky, it's assuming that Zimmerman threw the first punch when THE ONLY MARK ON MARTIN was skinned knuckles.

Oh, by, "first punch" you meant when Zimmerman violently threw his face into Martin's knuckles? I guess you have a point.

why does it have to be a punch?

it would make perfect sense that zimmerman tried to detain martin rather than beat him. those assholes, those fucking punks, those fucking c-goons, they were always getting away. he admitted going to look for martin again after he ran away.

and again, enough with the lies. martin didn't have skinned knuckles. he didn't even have skinned knuckle. he had a slight scratch on one single knuckle. could he have scraped it on the sidewalk when zimm tried to tackle and detain him? we can't rule it out.

MuyLocoNC · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
that melanin is strong stuff. i hear boxers shoot up with melanin before fights to give themselves some of that super-negro strength.

and your racial purity standard is pretty awesome too. zimm has a white dad and a peruvian mother: thus he is NOT white.

more of that one drop rule awesomeness.

well played, sir.

Isn't that the standard used by you and others about Obama? White mother, black father, but he's not white. I'm fairly certain I've heard it about a thousand times in here how so many oppose his policies because he's black. Are you now suggesting he's not?

Sucks when your hypocrisy is put out on full display.

desert dude · Dec 10, 2012

UncleBuck said:
the fight was so brutal and life threatening that zimm's shirt nearly came untucked. nearly.

poor guy.

Serino himself, you remember him, characterized Zimmerman's beating as "marginally life threatening". That description comes from the guy you seem to think is a master investigator and interrogator.

You could say that Z was nearly killed. Nearly. Poor guy.

UncleBuck · Dec 10, 2012

MuyLocoNC said:
Isn't that the standard used by you and others about Obama? White mother, black father, but he's not white. I'm fairly certain I've heard it about a thousand times in here how so many oppose his policies because he's black. Are you now suggesting he's not?

Sucks when your hypocrisy is put out on full display.

yeah, obama is clearly white.

i mean, let's forget that he self identifies as black, has been treated as black all his life, that i have always called him "biracial", and not "mixed breed" or "half breed" or "mullatto" like some have.

since you say so, obama is white.

we can now move on as friends.

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