lowrider2000
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studies have been done scientifically THEY SAY DONT TRIM THE FAN LEAVES!
Is trimming fan leaves off buds OK or not?
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JohnnySocko
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thanks bro...and just out of genuine curiosity (and not as a challenge to what you say), you got any links? I'd like to read them (again, not questioning you at all, just thinking it would be a interesting read)
peace
lowrider2000
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- Do not remove leaves indiscriminately.
- Do not remove young leaves unless heavily damaged by bugs or molds.
- Do not sacrifice healthy leaves near the light for the sake of lower leaves.
- Remove leaves that are beginning to yellow.
- Do not remove mature leaves if you have a weak root system.
- Use light movers, oscillating fans, and reflective material to improve light penetration
- Grow your plants short to keep all the branches as close to the lights source as possible
- Use selective pruning to remove sucker shoots that use up valuable plant energy
lowrider2000
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SomeGuy
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citations please.
kinddiesel
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guys. trim them leafs off once the buds are 1/4 inch thick you will get bigger yields. do your self a favor. do one plant and not the other see the difference. next time you will be trimming the leafs off .
bird mcbride
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When the plant gets to the point where it is blocking the light I will LST it by tipping it by the roots (while the hydroton/lava rock table is flooded) into a position most beneficial for all in the garden. If I have to tie it up, I'll tie it up using a small piece of thin cardboard so the string is insulated from the stalks.
JohnnySocko
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Agreed with all the above; but only to a point as most of that is common sense for a SCroG grow....
this is: my curiosity/questions/doubts stems from removing perfectly good fan leaf: addition by subtraction so to speak
...I dunno, w/o further open minded reading; can't totally wrap my head around some of the defoliation thing...and again, thats recognizing there is like a gazillion heated defoliation debate threads posted already
DrOctopus
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Once again I prune all throughout the plants life and in all honesty I start from the top and trim one side then alternate. It evens out the canopy and brings the branches at the bottom to the top there is not an article on the whole web that is going to change 20 years of personal experience so I guess we agree to disagree. Don't do it when they are too young though cus it will stun the growth. I just know for whatever growth sacrificed by pruning (if any) there is 2x that spent on the growth and development of shaded branches that would have popcorn but now are colas for instance (don't mind the Nitrogen OD)
onemooretime
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So as I said in post #17, I went ahead and trimmed, right. Well I just wanted to give a little update on what I've noticed in the change of the plants, what I'll call, attitude. First thing that I noticed after just one 12hr cycle of light is that the remaining leafs have perked up. The second is that the buds on lower branches, where the pistols were just kinda laying over are now stretched out. As if both leaves and flowers are reaching for the light. I think is a good thing...
skunkd0c
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lol m8 that grow was from 5 years ago, still upsets some of the mincers though which is amusing
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/240168-barneys-sweet-tooth-nft-grow.html
I'm sure UncleBen and his minions will be along shortly to take you to task for believing in forum myths
he will most likely mention snake oils and dyna-gro too
you have been warned
peace
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/240168-barneys-sweet-tooth-nft-grow.html
I'm sure UncleBen and his minions will be along shortly to take you to task for believing in forum myths
he will most likely mention snake oils and dyna-gro too
you have been warned
peace
Doer
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Really, are you sure? If you were you could point us to these studies.,
JohnDee
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Here is a synopsis of a meta-research article (article about research done) on the subject at hand...
http://mjgrowers.com/book_lets_research.htm
http://mjgrowers.com/book_lets_research.htm
Doer
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This is an ancient question in Botany. You don't need to worry about ganja myths if you have all Botany at your call.
So, what are you trying to do? If you want max yield per plant, then you will double harvest. The later produced buds will be less mature, need a few more weeks.
Or if you are like me and trying to get a big, but not max yield every month, I can't afford to double harvest. I need the light, for the next set.
So, what are you trying to do? For me, I have been experimenting with just not allowing second branching. I began early and every few days, I simple pinch off any new branches from the dominate branches. I want those to be long, so I can gather them into a mesh or strings or tomato fence or whatever to hold up the buds.
That way, I never let the branch begin, and it is no stress. I never let the plant get used to something and then take it away.
So, I have less room and less time than outdoors, but, want a good leaf set in veg and no stress. (still got a bug in the picture adder)
Just pinch the secondaries, and I get a wide but open bush. But, it is because of what I want to do. I want all the produce to mature at about the same time. We will see.
So, what are you trying to do? If you want max yield per plant, then you will double harvest. The later produced buds will be less mature, need a few more weeks.
Or if you are like me and trying to get a big, but not max yield every month, I can't afford to double harvest. I need the light, for the next set.
So, what are you trying to do? For me, I have been experimenting with just not allowing second branching. I began early and every few days, I simple pinch off any new branches from the dominate branches. I want those to be long, so I can gather them into a mesh or strings or tomato fence or whatever to hold up the buds.
That way, I never let the branch begin, and it is no stress. I never let the plant get used to something and then take it away.
So, I have less room and less time than outdoors, but, want a good leaf set in veg and no stress. (still got a bug in the picture adder)
Just pinch the secondaries, and I get a wide but open bush. But, it is because of what I want to do. I want all the produce to mature at about the same time. We will see.
lowrider2000
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nice plants im not saying that removing the leaves will kill your plant the plant will always try and compensate maybe even give you a growth spurt i would like to see what the THC/CBD % or those vs a plant with the fan leaves till then ill stick to DR Rosenthal. and i doupt itll double your harvest because then it would be common practiceThis sweettooth responded well to leaf removal
3 weeks
4 weeks
4 weeks
8 weeks
10 plants, the yield was around 500g m2
peace
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