giggles26
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I've messed around with it..
What should I try next when I get back?
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Unclebaldrick
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In descending order:
Worm poo
High N guano
high P guano
buffered lime
microcorr....
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
busted!!
neosapien
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Thanks for answering my question C2G, as it was clear that CN had no interest in helping me!!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Great fish tho', no?Thanks for answering my question C2G, as it was clear that CN had no interest in helping me!!
twostrokenut
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Hempy's man they're pretty badass.
minnesmoker
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I was buying the bricks of coco, hydrating, washing, and washing again. Then, mixed with perlite, put drain rocks in the bottom of the pot, covered with screen, filled pots with coco mix, and used GH nutes (I'm poor, I don't eat steak every night, my bottom bitches don't drink Cristal.) Supplemented with Cal/Mag, this nasty organic tea right before, and during flowering, Granny's Molasses twice during flower, and Humboldt's Own Crystal Burst. I was pulling a few zips every couple weeks (perpetual grow.) And, I never did wind up with the money to get an HID setup, so it was CFLs for me until I shut down.Thanks for answering my question C2G, as it was clear that CN had no interest in helping me!!
I miss growing weed.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
To me, this moves it into a soillike grow. What I like about the inert, non-nutritive medium is fast control over nutrients. Admittedly it ain't organic, but I personally put no stock in "organic is better". In fact, my two most successful grows were deliberately, exuberantly nonorganic. My first test run used reagent-grade ionic feedstocks and deionized water ... as a control run to see if any of that was needed. My results were solid, and the Prop 215 warriors whom i knew at the time adjudicated my smoke "top shelf". That boosted my ego into the insufferosphere.
Adding soil ingredients, like guanos and clay-containing admixes like the worm grunties, brings two slow-release elements into the picture. Plants absorb their nutrients in ionic, technically "inorganic" form regardless of source. The guanos and other biosource nutes have to decompose to yield the ions. Therein lies much of their utility: with a healthy soil flora on board, this decomposition matches the plant's demands and makes a well-planned soil grow cruise on autopilot, allowing the gardener to just water, and to mildly supplement in the case of specific deficiencies when observed.
The other is clay, which the worm ploppies contain in abundance. Clay is asurface-active ion-exchange medium. Nutrient ions adsorb and are slowly bled off. The clay in worm deuce is simply loaded with these ions, and will accept and "buffer" the ones from decaying organic prenutrient.
The style and aesthetic of soil and soilless are different (do you like your aircraft with or without onboard propulsion?), and it is my observation that both methods, and hybrids thereof if awarely planned and executed, yield wonderful healthy plants and high yields of impeccable produce.
LOL! Neo apparently I have about zero interest too! Tell me did you really just try to tape down your eyelid down? See that's the problem with giving any type of health advice over the net. If you did try to tape the eyelid it kept irritating the scratch so you didn't have 24 hours taped. What you have to do in future eye incidents is put a pad over the eye then tape the pad down, hahahhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Eyelids are like toddlers they resist the tape. The reason anesthesia tapes direct is because they use paralytics. That's about the only way direct taping works LOL.Thanks for answering my question C2G, as it was clear that CN had no interest in helping me!!
I hope I'm wrong... but ... just in case.....
PS I started in NFT tubes, home made. I'd really recommend them. I went to a pipe contractor and got larger pipe since I wasn't growing lettuce LOL.
neosapien
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Lol, that's totally what I did. It was so uncomfortable I took the tape off after a few minutes.
Hey atleast you tried to help me, that damn bear didn't even care to respond.
Thanks buddy!! Oh no it's cool, I trust all the people of the interwebz...I'd send Neo a bag of my compost but I don't think he'd care to give up his address.
Neo Sapien
5858 Lucas Valley Road
Nicasio, CA 94946
Sunbiz1
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Unclebaldrick
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I'm going to have to re read this a few times to absorb it all. I am almost totally unschooled in biology. I have rationalized the worm poop as both a nutrient source and inoculant for beneficial living things to infest the medium. I only use about a cup of each Guano per large tote of mix. Always figured it burns out pretty quickly and consequently feed with every watering at more or less full strength.To me, this moves it into a soillike grow. What I like about the inert, non-nutritive medium is fast control over nutrients. Admittedly it ain't organic, but I personally put no stock in "organic is better". In fact, my two most successful grows were deliberately, exuberantly nonorganic. My first test run used reagent-grade ionic feedstocks and deionized water ... as a control run to see if any of that was needed. My results were solid, and the Prop 215 warriors whom i knew at the time adjudicated my smoke "top shelf". That boosted my ego into the insufferosphere.
Adding soil ingredients, like guanos and clay-containing admixes like the worm grunties, brings two slow-release elements into the picture. Plants absorb their nutrients in ionic, technically "inorganic" form regardless of source. The guanos and other biosource nutes have to decompose to yield the ions. Therein lies much of their utility: with a healthy soil flora on board, this decomposition matches the plant's demands and makes a well-planned soil grow cruise on autopilot, allowing the gardener to just water, and to mildly supplement in the case of specific deficiencies when observed.
The other is clay, which the worm ploppies contain in abundance. Clay is asurface-active ion-exchange medium. Nutrient ions adsorb and are slowly bled off. The clay in worm deuce is simply loaded with these ions, and will accept and "buffer" the ones from decaying organic prenutrient.
The style and aesthetic of soil and soilless are different (do you like your aircraft with or without onboard propulsion?), and it is my observation that both methods, and hybrids thereof if awarely planned and executed, yield wonderful healthy plants and high yields of impeccable produce.
I grow a fine, fine product. But my time here has made we aware that I should/could be growing more of it in the same space. Not that my yields are low. There are quite a few tweaks I am making, especially in plant pruning/training. But every few years, I get the feeling to change up my methodology on a more fundamental level - the thought being that my medium choice is a limiting factor. In the past, I have tried a few different mediums and just ended up preferring my Sunshine peat mix. I wonder if this is the time for me to institute radical change of stick to my fundamental approach until I fully master the tweaks. But I have never tried full on coco.
Sorry to Jack the thread a bit Neo.
Anyway, I'm humbly open to any advice y'all have to give.
MrEDuck
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I am EXTREMELY interested in this. Please tell me more.
I'm running a soilless mix of peat and perlite (about 50/50). I actually prefer peat to coco but I seem to be in a minority.
CN what mix of salts did you use to make nutrients? When finances are less tight I plan to start messing around with mixing my own. One day I would love to use res samples and tissue samples to try to determine the week by week needs of my strains and come up with a food based on that.
MrEDuck
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I figured it would be apparent that I was interested in duckponics 
I did some reading on it and I'm definitely going to have to give it a try one day. I like the idea of aquaponics but I'd only ever seen talk of using fish and I really am not a fan of eating fish so it's never been attractive to me. But I'll totally keep ducks around just to have ducks. Sadly it sounds like you can't get the solution hot enough to grow cannabis with it.
I did some reading on it and I'm definitely going to have to give it a try one day. I like the idea of aquaponics but I'd only ever seen talk of using fish and I really am not a fan of eating fish so it's never been attractive to me. But I'll totally keep ducks around just to have ducks. Sadly it sounds like you can't get the solution hot enough to grow cannabis with it.
Unclebaldrick
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Is there a 'dumpsterponics'? In which you grow in a dumpster using an urban garbage slurry using only the light available in an alley and fed by downspout runoff? If so, Detroit here I come.
dannyboy602
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how about a nice meth lab?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
surprised they don't call it "quackuaponics".