We Don't Need Another Habitual Liar In The White House

[Doer]

I don't think we can handle the truth.

And this is another "failed to see it" for the Founders.

 

[canndo]

That is because your eyes pitifully wide shut to all but, the Partisan 10%

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Just what the FUCK do you think this is? "I am not sure, nor could it ever be verified " - I am not sure. So that puts me in the partisan can does it? It was a postulate, a guess, an invitation to people such as yourself, not a mantra, not a submission to some sort of rigid ideology. You have anything positive to say? anything? Another question, how many things have liberrals and Dems done right, in your opinion? or are you just as partisan and blind as you accuse me of being?

 

[thump easy]

im telling you they got nucleir wepons everywere but its a distration they half half humans all up in their and across the world they will take over.. they are aliens!!!!

 

[Doer]

Just what the FUCK do you think this is? "I am not sure, nor could it ever be verified " - I am not sure. So that puts me in the partisan can does it? It was a postulate, a guess, an invitation to people such as yourself, not a mantra, not a submission to some sort of rigid ideology. You have anything positive to say? anything? Another question, how many things have liberrals and Dems done right, in your opinion? or are you just as partisan and blind as you accuse me of being?

Is that what is valuable to you? Something positive? You take this all that personally?

OK.

I have admired your avatar from the moment I saw it. And if you are not a cat person, you can't be all that bad.

(now that last was just a guess, but maybe a 72% chance of success, in your case)

 

[ginwilly]

I don't think we can handle the truth.

And this is another "failed to see it" for the Founders.

Either they failed to see it or couldn't think of a way to prevent human nature's ugly sides when freedom was the main mantra.

When Jefferson opined we may need a revolution every 20 years to keep gov in check I think he saw it.
When Franklin smirked about here's your republic, good luck keeping it, I think he saw.

It may have been more of a lack of ideas to stop it than lack of foresight.

I'm only speculating though, wasn't there. Can you think of any way to prevent lying in politics? Could be good forum exercise where we solve the world's problems.

 

[Doer]

Canndo, I have a clearly stated and staunchy held stance on the 50 yard line. I hate it all. I hate both sides roundly. I have special attention for the far kooks all around, of which you are not, since I can read your posts.

So, what possible positive can come from that?

I'll tell you. I cheer the gridlock. I revel in the mistakes and lies from it all especially the Press.

I have special Hate for the DEMS and hippies. And another one for the Church confused and Elite of any ilk.

All my loves are personal. All my hates are political.

Clearo?

 

[beenthere]

Beenthere, you state things that are patently false. I can usualy trace those items to rghtist blogs or information dispersement centers. The fact that you do not cross reference what it is that you say, and in essence force me to do it, knowing that most will simply take your word at face value, may, in some concepts, make you a lier. I don't happen to feel that way but I am partial to giving others more than the benefit of the dobut.

the occasional lier, bolsters his reputation for truth only to use that reputation to foment the BIG lie, the lies held in reserve. the people, having come to believe the man will naturaly believe the lie along with the many truths - this is the more dangerous person.

If I have offended you, I appologize, but it is the way I see it. You commonly come down on the side of theory or poliicial and economic philosophy rather than on the side of the people. America is its people, if you consistantly opt for policies that have those people suffer, then I have trouble believing that you hold country first. country is not our borders, our flag and our military. It is the small town every day people and the big city struggling to get along follk. You consistantly ignore them, if not gloat over their misery as you seem to be doing with obamacare. Not once have I seen you suggest fixes for obamacare, except for scrapping it and leaving nothing in it's place. Hardly a boon to those AMERICANS in dire need of some sort of protection.

Until you clarify what you consider me stating things that are "patently false" I'll take it as another one of your emotional overloads.
And would you please leave your emotions at the door and try to stick to the OP, it's about lying, not ideals or policy.

 

[ginwilly]

I'll tell you. I cheer the gridlock.

Me too. I don't get why people constantly want congress to "do something" when most of what they do is damaging.

The first politicians that runs on "I'm going to start UNDOING if elected" gets my vote.

 

[beenthere]

Me too. I don't get why people constantly want congress to "do something" when most of what they do is damaging.

The first politicians that runs on "I'm going to start UNDOING if elected" gets my vote.

I believe the majority of people in this country want smaller government but they get stuck in the middle of the two party system we have, which will never make it happen.

 

[Doer]

Either they failed to see it or couldn't think of a way to prevent human nature's ugly sides when freedom was the main mantra.

When Jefferson opined we may need a revolution every 20 years to keep gov in check I think he saw it.
When Franklin smirked about here's your republic, good luck keeping it, I think he saw.

It may have been more of a lack of ideas to stop it than lack of foresight.

I'm only speculating though, wasn't there. Can you think of any way to prevent lying in politics? Could be good forum exercise where we solve the world's problems.

So true. And now all we are left with is, "you broke it, you bought it." and "if not us, then who?"

I don't think we can handle the truth.

And we want the most heavy hitters in the persuasion department, we can find. It is just like Gladiators in one way. Trained for the arena. We want 500 people twisting each others arms and worst. And the incumbents and the staffers, just want the ones who will stay bought, and do what they are told.

But, WE keep sending up ones that will not.

A shaky compromise is not the best it can get, it is the best we want. WE want no more. than that. Anything beyond that has to be dire...like a declared war, so we put it ALL in. If not the 9th Amendment is at risk. So, no one gets to take over.

That is the positive of the mess.

And such advancement. We fight best, without putting in much but SpecOPs and robots. But, the old way says we still suffer an attrition worse than Nam in the 'Stan, but no one seems to care. We are switching to hunter killer tactics, from afar, as we speak.

Oh, we can still deliver that 500 pound bomb. But, now our robots can ring your doorbell with it.

So, is truth possible or even desirable? I say not.

Has it ever been attained from you to yourself? Science is now saying no. We lie constantly on a minute to minute basis. We have to lie to ourselves to get though this. It is called sanity.

Lying is what us shiny monkeys do.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

I tell you what, when females can compete with men in athletic events without having to have their own divisions, I'll support sending them off to fight.

When females don't need any "special" protection from "domestic violence" or "rape" because they can't defend themselves from men, I'll support sending them off to fight.


But as long as BIOLOGY dictates that females will be SLOWER, have LESS endurance, LESS strength, and LESS muscle mass than males, I will NOT pretend that females make good warriors. They DON'T. Men do not respect females the same way we do males, and we sure as fuck don't fear them.

Our fighting men deserve better than that. Period. It's a g'damn shame assholes are willing to risk the lives of good men just to appease chicks that want to pretend to be "warriors".

The military needs female troops about as much as they need troops with down syndrome.

I'm sure you are a just a killer with the ladies with that attitude. Most women like being compared to people with Down's Syndrome. I hear it's a great pickup line at the bar.

 

[beenthere]

I think Hillary has already made her mind up to run in 2016.
One thing for certain IMO is, the right will have more than enough ammunition to sway moderates and independents.
And Obamacare will be icing on the cake.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

I think Hillary has already made her mind up to run in 2016.
One thing for certain IMO is, the right will have more than enough ammunition to sway moderates and independents.
And Obamacare will be icing on the cake.

I honestly don't think she'll run. She would be the 2nd oldest President elected, and with all the other shit she has on her I just don't see it happening.

Who knows though. Its still almost 3 years away why are people talking about it so much already?

 

[Doer]

Women live longer than men. And she may need to pardon herself.

 

[beenthere]

I honestly don't think she'll run. She would be the 2nd oldest President elected, and with all the other shit she has on her I just don't see it happening.

Who knows though. Its still almost 3 years away why are people talking about it so much already?

We're fucking bored!

 

[Dr Kynes]

It was 6 years ago but I still haven't come to terms with the fact that the REPS thought SARAH PALIN would be a good alternative to Hilary.
Can you imagine the meeting of Reps that led to this?

"Palin will make a good alternative to Hilary for anyone who want someone like her, but not her".
"Why. What attributes do they share?"
"Well, for a start, they both have a vagina where traditionally a politician keeps a penis".
"OK, that's a good start. What else?"
"Long hair - but in such a way as they don't run the risk of being called 'Hippies'."
"How do they manage that?".
"Oh...It's complicated......"
"Is it something to do with the 'vagina thing'?"
"Between you and me, Yes. The entire selection process, this year, has been built around the lack of a penis....At one point we considered that guy who had his penis chopped off by his angry wife and that transvestite from off of The Crying Game. But we settled for Sarah because the other had the remnants of historic penis's left over. Sarah is 100% penis free....."

why do you care who we set up in OUR white house?

im not out there agitating for the removal of the german regime that has stolen the crown of england, and demanding the restoration of the Noble House of Stewart to the throne...

see thats YOUR problem, and if you want to kneel at the feet of usurpers, thats great for you.

[video=youtube;KDiQlvbCY2w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDiQlvbCY2w[/video]

 

[Doer]

Me too. I don't get why people constantly want congress to "do something" when most of what they do is damaging.

The first politicians that runs on "I'm going to start UNDOING if elected" gets my vote.

Well.....undo Obama Care? Undo the shocking waste and payola, of global warming spending.

Undo the horrible foreign policy failures.

Sure, lets undo, something.

I will repeal 39 laws if elected!

Well, I will repeal 42!

Let's see the lists and let's vote for our best undoer. Doer likes it.

 

[Dr Kynes]

We're fucking bored!

actually i am concerned.

as a staunch conservative, i oppose change, in all it's forms.

violating our nearly unbroken tradition of more than a century, and electing somebody who doesnt lie his ass off at every opportunity could unravel the very fabric of american life!

after so many deceptive self serving, bald faced liars, we put Ronald Reagan in the whitehouse, and look at what happened then!

can america afford to risk putting an honest man in the oval office again?

i say NAY!

bring forth the liars, theives and scoundrels of every stripe!

Only they can defend our glorious traditions and advance our nearly unbroken succession of duplicitous fools at the head of our great republic!

 

[Doer]

A fair amount of evidence exists that makes it look like FDR knew the Japs were coming after pearl harbor. Yet he did nothing, except send the cv ships out.

Fact is, from reviewing the historical record, he either knew or should have known. If he knew, is a lie of that magnitude not several orders larger than what Nixon did, thus making democrats the undisputed king of harmful lies?

Well, my dad, WW2 vet, 86 years old, in the Army Air Corp, DI as a Corporal, and a Eagle Chief Master Srgt. AF (one of the first 60)

I was enacted by Congress ITSELF, he will thunder, and by God, you little shits don't know the first thing about it. FDR, just sat on his ass, with plenty of forewarning and let good men die on a Sunday.

That is his reaction. Yeah, you tend to step back, even now.

 

[ginwilly]

I'll get back to you on the undos. I have to run out and grab a bite, but you stole most of mine already