Another shooting in a Maryland Mall

beenthere

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Clayton? Did you guys finally meet up?
Nah, UncleBuck threatened to call the cops and sue me if it got psychical.
Bucky is the little kid at the zoo that teases the monkeys behind the cage, then has a temper tantrum when the monkeys throw shit on him.
 

travisw

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Nah, UncleBuck threatened to call the cops and sue me if it got psychical.
Bucky is the little kid at the zoo that teases the monkeys behind the cage, then has a temper tantrum when the monkeys throw shit on him.
How does he know your name?
 

schuylaar

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And I might add, the 2nd amendment, notwithstanding of a well armed militia, gave the right of the people to keep bear and arms.
what year was that?..how many states did we have at that time?..how many americans?

when interpreting law..it always goes back to intentions of the law maker..what were they trying to accomplish?..would they have made the same blanket law had they known what the world would be like a few centuries into the future?..
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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To think the founding fathers couldn't envision today is ludicrous to me. They were brilliant people.

I think they are rolling over in their graves at how much power the Feds have these days. But they could certainly envision it. That's why they limited the Feds power.
 

kpmarine

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Nah, UncleBuck threatened to call the cops and sue me if it got psychical.
Bucky is the little kid at the zoo that teases the monkeys behind the cage, then has a temper tantrum when the monkeys throw shit on him.
Maybe if you were a man capable of controlling his emotions, then you wouldn't have this issue. I like how the fact that you would react violently to something as trivial as a question of your sexuality is somehow a shortcoming on Buck's part.
 

kpmarine

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To think the founding fathers couldn't envision today is ludicrous to me. They were brilliant people.

I think they are rolling over in their graves at how much power the Feds have these days. But they could certainly envision it. That's why they limited the Feds power.
So brilliant that they didn't let anyone poor, non-white, non-male, and non-landowning vote. What's with the idolization of the few men that were famous for helping found this country? They had good ideas, but they also had some damn stupid ones.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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So brilliant that they didn't let anyone poor, non-white, non-male, and non-landowning vote. What's with the idolization of the few men that were famous for helping found this country? They had good ideas, but they also had some damn stupid ones.
Just like politicians today. But politicians today don't have the experience with other forms of tyranny like the founding fathers did. They knew what could happen and planned for it.

I would recommend not looking fondly on anyone from before the present. Odds are, they felt the same way.
 

NoDrama

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what year was that?..how many states did we have at that time?..how many americans?
Where in the constitution is it written that certain aspects of it will become obsolete as time passes and as the US grows? Please point me to that section please.
Try reading the Federalist papers, the founders clearly explain all of their intentions, and never do they intend for a US citizen to EVER be deprived of any right for any reason. Sorry you don't get to revise it as you see fit so it makes you feel all cozy and warm all over. They will NEVER get rid of firearms, the Constitution specifically says they can't make that law and in more than one section is that made clear.
 

kpmarine

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Just like politicians today. But politicians today don't have the experience with other forms of tyranny like the founding fathers did. They knew what could happen and planned for it.

I would recommend not looking fondly on anyone from before the present. Odds are, they felt the same way.
It's the idolization that bothers me. Many folks gve them this air of infallibility.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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They had the vision, the drive, and the knowledge to start a whole new nation and fight off its oppressors to accomplish that feat.

The constitution is a brilliant document in my opinion. Good examples of brilliance: Thomas Jefferson invented quite a few things and we all know about Ben Franklin.

Jefferson fucked his slaves and Ben was involved in many orgies and was quite the ladies man and partier. Fallible but brilliant.

It honestly doesn't bother me if someone doesn't think they are to be idolized, but to say they didn't have brilliance and downplay their contributions is downplaying what they accomplished.
 

beenthere

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Maybe if you were a man capable of controlling his emotions, then you wouldn't have this issue. I like how the fact that you would react violently to something as trivial as a question of your sexuality is somehow a shortcoming on Buck's part.

I think you're talking about UncleBuck here, kpmarine.
I actually do pretty well these days controlling my emotions, however, you'd never catch me calling another man a fucking racist or a loser to his face without expecting a mouth full of fist, that my friend, is grown man who does NOT have control over his emotions.
 

kpmarine

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I think you're talking about UncleBuck here, kpmarine.
I actually do pretty well these days controlling my emotions, however, you'd never catch me calling another man a fucking racist or a loser to his face without expecting a mouth full of fist, that my friend, is grown man who does NOT have control over his emotions.
I recall you stating that if he were to question your sexuality, then you would hit him.
 

kpmarine

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They had the vision, the drive, and the knowledge to start a whole new nation and fight off its oppressors to accomplish that feat.

The constitution is a brilliant document in my opinion. Good examples of brilliance: Thomas Jefferson invented quite a few things and we all know about Ben Franklin.

Jefferson fucked his slaves and Ben was involved in many orgies and was quite the ladies man and partier. Fallible but brilliant.

It honestly doesn't bother me if someone doesn't think they are to be idolized, but to say they didn't have brilliance and downplay their contributions is downplaying what they accomplished.
I guess we'll have a diifference of opinion here. Most were intelligent and educated, there is no doubt about that. I just don't see something as superlative as "brilliant" being correct for all of them. They were mostly well off men with an education; which gave them most of the tools they needed to make everything happen. I'd say a few were genuinely brilliant (Franklin being one.), but most were folks of average intellect who were in the right place at the right time.
 
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