snowboarder396
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Lol that'd be funny to watch
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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DANKSWAG
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What do you mean wear a costume to scar them, hell the mice already run from you naturally!
Say I am working on a new blend using small pieces of pumice, oysters shells pieces and rice hulls.
The Rev even uses dry rice thinking about that too.
I still have some perlite in 5 gallon box but I use it sparingly as I am using the other materials.
And as radical as this sounds I was going to add a material into the mix that is sterile PH neutral very absorbent and used in hydroponics but also recommend as a soil amendment. Sure to Grow Absorbents.
As weird as it will be mixing this into soil it won't hurt it, if it helps aerate and provide drainage why not?
DankSwag
starcraftguy1988
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hey guys, just made my second organic full term soil. Right now i got it in a 30 gallon tote sitting in the grow room, which is 81-86 Degrees F. lights on, 66-72 lights off. So im prettty sure its warm enough to get all the microbes and benef's active, im just curious can i cover the tote, is it recommended? id like to do so to keep humidity down if at all possible. And its too cold outside for the soil to "cook" properly/quickly out there.
RedCarpetMatches
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I have some airholes in my bins. I guess you can burp it. Congrats on your organic endeavor!
foreverflyhi
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Interested, please do tell us more about this, espexially for hydroponicsWhat do you mean wear a costume to scar them, hell the mice already run from you naturally!
Say I am working on a new blend using small pieces of pumice, oysters shells pieces and rice hulls.
The Rev even uses dry rice thinking about that too.
I still have some perlite in 5 gallon box but I use it sparingly as I am using the other materials.
And as radical as this sounds I was going to add a material into the mix that is sterile PH neutral very absorbent and used in hydroponics but also recommend as a soil amendment. Sure to Grow Absorbents.
As weird as it will be mixing this into soil it won't hurt it, if it helps aerate and provide drainage why not?
DankSwag
Herb Man
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Hey guys, regarding the No Till aspect of this thread, the info seems kinda sparse in the first few pages, so I'm none the wiser regarding the details.
Is the suggestion that one simply top dresses, then plugs a seed in the old soil with the chopped plants root still in the soil?
I re-use organic soil, but I compost it for a month or two before re-using.
Is the suggestion that one simply top dresses, then plugs a seed in the old soil with the chopped plants root still in the soil?
I re-use organic soil, but I compost it for a month or two before re-using.
st0wandgrow
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Chop your current plant at the base of the stem. Re-amend (top dress) with whatever dry organic inputs you use at about 50% of what you initially used to make the soil. No need to add minerals, rock dusts, and liming agents for a second run. Cover with a layer of EWC, and then plant a cover crop like clover in to the bucket which will fix atmospheric nitrogen and keep the micro-life active sending down new roots. Water as needed, and in a few weeks the old rootball will be somewhat consumed and you can plunk a new clone right in there. Just chop-n-drop the clover which will make a nice layer of mulch.
mrwood
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plus, there appears to be a consensus that you need a > 15 gal pot for no till
I run smaller pots, but recycle my soil for future grows. A majority of the guidance on this thread still works for us little guys !
Herb Man
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Damn, so simple.
My current method is to dump the used soil into my indoor soil compost (in a large grow bag in my growing area). It stays there for at least a month more commonly two.
Just found a live worm in some earth worm castings, so I tossed that in there too, will be interesting to see how that works out.
But this no till method seems very user friendly.
Ah, my current arrangement would not cater for such large pots, but yes this is still good info for organic farmers.
RedCarpetMatches
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Kewl...but it's going to taste like Micky D lettuce at 11pm.day 6 reveg romaine lettuce. no roots. sitting in ttap water
RedCarpetMatches
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@Mr. Wood, you seem uncomfortable with going big... IMO there's nothing 'horribly wrong' (just not as finely aged) with remixing and reamending soil with smaller 3-5 gal pots. There's still tons of microbes on the left over roots. I'm going to remix my coco with some hotness and let it cook for 10-14 days. I'll be fine.
hyroot
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we'll see I'll add some molasses once a week. I change the water every day.
DANKSWAG
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RedCarpetMatches
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Gonna need more than molasses
...unless you're using Brer Rabbit! I actually love romaine. It'd be interesting to do one in just water for comparison. I've been doing my cuttings the same exact way as your lettuce. Foil and clean tap changed daily. You using straight tap???
hyroot
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yeah straigt tap. once I used aerated tap water. I use brer rabbit $2.50 a bottle at walmizzle. that will raise brix levels too.. One of my friends said he tried it and it he said the head was smaller than soil. it takes 60+ days from sprout to finish. He doesn't get jiggy like I do with my plants. At the rate of the regrowth is going, its growing faster than seed. So if its a small head and finished in 3 or 4 weeks. who cares with that much time vs 60 days.. I'm not flipping the lettuce or smoking it so..Gonna need more than molasses
RedCarpetMatches
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Funny you mentioned aeration. Stupid minds think alike eh. I have 2 cuttings from 5 diff moms. One cutting of each mom in aerated tap and the other just sitting. So far the still water is winning?!?!
hyroot
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chlorine promotes root growth. It kills microbes. Its a catch 22.
RedCarpetMatches
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Learn something new errday. That would explain the faster rooting in sitting water.
snowboarder396
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Never heard of chlorine promoting root growth, that's interesting