If a woman can abort a child, should a man be able to initiate the abortion?

[UncleReemis]

In which case, see my response to RB. If she is not the type who agrees a the abortion, then like a man has a choice to wear a condom, she has a choice to protect herself just as equally.

Yeah, so in this case, they both failed the choice to protect themselves. So shouldn't they BOTH pay for their child?

 

[racerboy71]

Why should everything be based on a condom? In sex Ed, we were taught about all the various forms of female contraception which were stated to be statistically the same with regard to fertility as condoms, be it implants or the pill. But hey, a friend got a coil implanted. She got pregnant. My gf had s coil implanted. She got pregnant. Ifnthe man is held responsible over whether he does or doesnt wear a condom, why shouldn't a woman be responsible for whether she does or doesn't use contraception herself? Why is it so different?

Here's a controversial one then. If a woman gets too drunk, she can claim rape etc, and there are often convictions based on this argument, the verdict is she did not consent due to being too drunk etc. So if a an gets that drunk, and impregnates someone, why couldn't he use that as an excuse for not being forced into taking responsibility.

of course this is just my take on it tip, so take it with a grain of salt..
by as to why a man should be the one who wears the condom and not depend on the woman, it's for the fact that it's the woman who's getting pregnant.. it's her body that is going to go through major changes, she's the one who has something growing inside of her for 40 weeks time.. she's the one who more than likely will have to take care of the child after the other parent walks..
so yeah, if i don't wanna have a baby with someone, i make sure i'm doing everything possible to protect myself and my interests.. every time i have sex, i know that there's a risk involved, once i ejaculate, there's a chance she could be getting pregnant. it's up to me to have that adult conversation with the woman before we decide to have sex and find out what her thoughts are on abortion, and if i don't like her thoughts, or i disagree, i simply decide to not have sex with her.. it really is that easy.. after you already had sex and got a chick pregnant isn't the time to find out her thoughts on abortion. that convo should have happened well before that.

 

[tip top toker]

Yeah, so in this case, they both failed the choice to protect themselves. So shouldn't they BOTH pay for their child?

A good point. But at the same time, why not equal custody then?

Also, how many times has a man been told its OK, I'm on the pill, or I have an implant, how many of those have ended up with child support payments?

But this is all completely idealistic thinking. I know that. The amount of bearocracy that would be required would probably just make it cheaper for the government to pay the child support

 

[tip top toker]

of course this is just my take on it tip, so take it with a grain of salt..
by as to why a man should be the one who wears the condom and not depend on the woman, it's for the fact that it's the woman who's getting pregnant.. it's her body that is going to go through major changes, she's the one who has something growing inside of her for 40 weeks time.. she's the one who more than likely will have to take care of the child after the other parent walks..
so yeah, if i don't wanna have a baby with someone, i make sure i'm doing everything possible to protect myself and my interests.. every time i have sex, i know that there's a risk involved, once i ejaculate, there's a chance she could be getting pregnant. it's up to me to have that adult conversation with the woman before we decide to have sex and find out what her thoughts are on abortion, and if i don't like her thoughts, or i disagree, i simply decide to not have sex with her.. it really is that easy.. after you already had sex and got a chick pregnant isn't the time to find out her thoughts on abortion. that convo should have happened well before that.

You could also say though, that because of how it all gets put on her, she should be the one being most responsible. If a man doesn't use his protection, he keeps on living his life, if a woman doesn't use hers, it changes everything.

 

[racerboy71]

You could also say though, that because of how it all gets put on her, she should be the one being most responsible. If a man doesn't use his protection, he keeps on living his life, if a woman doesn't use hers, it changes everything.

idk, imo, it takes two to have a baby, that's kind of a cowards way of dealing with the beautiful thing that is bringing a child into this world in my eyes.. don't wanna have a kid, wrap it up, or talk to the other person well before you have sex with her and make sure she's ok with abortion.. if not, find someone who sees eye to eye with you..

 

[killemsoftly]

Right after you get done going down on her, right before you stick it in, you tell her you need her to sign something.

It is a preconception agreement. The terms of which may change depending on your wishes as the man.

Basically, she signs an agreement that she must abort any child resulting from the following intercourse.

You must be a lady-killer bnb, damn! lol Do you make sure there are no sharp objects and weapons around when you do this? bwahahahaaaa!!!

 

[racerboy71]

i personally could never just walk away from a child i had, even if i had wanted to have an abortion at first, and never pay a cent towards something that i brought into this world.. shit, i couldn't even not get to see the kid on a constant basis, never mind not paying child support..

 

[killemsoftly]

She put it back in and I filled her with jizz..

So, you're saying your not a virgin? Do I have that right?

 

[Eye of Horus]

Point is, we don't need no more babies.

 

[Padawanbater2]

idk, imo, it takes two to have a baby, that's kind of a cowards way of dealing with the beautiful thing that is bringing a child into this world in my eyes.. don't wanna have a kid, wrap it up, or talk to the other person well before you have sex with her and make sure she's ok with abortion.. if not, find someone who sees eye to eye with you..

I'm just wondering what your opinion on this is..

What if a guy can't climax wearing a condom?

 

[Padawanbater2]

You must be a lady-killer bnb, damn! lol Do you make sure there are no sharp objects and weapons around when you do this? bwahahahaaaa!!!

Lol I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who asks women on first dates if they would "murder" a child if she became pregnant (abortion)..

Lady killer indeed

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

I'm just wondering what your opinion on this is..

What if a guy can't climax wearing a condom?

he should stop fucking gross bitches then

 

[Padawanbater2]

he should stop fucking gross bitches then

Completely ignorant

 

[Harrekin]

idk, imo, it takes two to have a baby, that's kind of a cowards way of dealing with the beautiful thing that is bringing a child into this world in my eyes.. don't wanna have a kid, wrap it up, or talk to the other person well before you have sex with her and make sure she's ok with abortion.. if not, find someone who sees eye to eye with you..

It takes two to have a baby?

It takes two to conceive a child but I see plenty of bitches with children from multiple men who do plenty well on the welfare by themselves "having babies".

Its a woman's job to be ultimately responsible for her body, I think a man should pay (at least help pay) for abortions, morning after pill, etc that they had a part in because I think that's a reasonable request, but beyond that, pro-choice should mean making and sticking with that choice.

 

[racerboy71]

I'm just wondering what your opinion on this is..

What if a guy can't climax wearing a condom?

idk pad, i never had that problem.. condoms surely make me go way way way longer than bare back, but i still eventually get off..
maybe after you've had enough sex and you're both pleased, pull out and ask her to finish via bj, i'd be pretty content with that situation..

 

[Harrekin]

idk pad, i never had that problem.. condoms surely make me go way way way longer than bare back, but i still eventually get off..
maybe after you've had enough sex and you're both pleased, pull out and ask her to finish via bj, i'd be pretty content with that situation..

Fuck that shit.

I guess you just love "spoiled moments" then?

 

[Padawanbater2]

idk pad, i never had that problem.. condoms surely make me go way way way longer than bare back, but i still eventually get off..
maybe after you've had enough sex and you're both pleased, pull out and ask her to finish via bj, i'd be pretty content with that situation..

I apologize if I missed it, but I thought TTT made a pretty interesting point about the emphasis put on male contraception while female contraception is just about ignored in mainstream society, what was your response to that? I agree the convenience factor of just slipping on a condom is much more appealing than the female equivalent, what do you think about that?

I'd certainly be content with that, but in my experience, it's usually not an option on the table after PIV

 

[racerboy71]

It takes two to have a baby?

It takes two to conceive a child but I see plenty of bitches with children from multiple men who do plenty well on the welfare by themselves "having babies".

Its a woman's job to be ultimately responsible for her body, I think a man should pay (at least help pay) for abortions, morning after pill, etc that they had a part in because I think that's a reasonable request, but beyond that, pro-choice should mean making and sticking with that choice.

that's what i meant by it takes to have a child, the conception part of it surely doesn't happen alone..
idk, like i said, i could never in a million years walk away from a baby someone had that was half mine, even if i didn't really want it when it was conceived, i'd put on my big boy pants and do the right thing, simple as that..

 

[Harrekin]

I apologize if I missed it, but I thought TTT made a pretty interesting point about the emphasis put on male contraception while female contraception is just about ignored in mainstream society, what was your response to that? I agree the convenience factor of just slipping on a condom is much more appealing than the female equivalent, what do you think about that?

I'd certainly be content with that, but in my experience, it's usually not an option on the table after PIV

Realistically, if women weren't so selfish we could just fuck them ALL in the ass, and this wouldn't be an issue.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

Realistically, if women weren't so selfish we could just fuck them ALL in the ass, and this wouldn't be an issue.

or yall could just become some queers