If a woman can abort a child, should a man be able to initiate the abortion?

Harrekin said:

No, its that way cos fundamentalist arseholes like you make it that way.

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Harrekin said:

Generally speaking, I don't make kids, I have consensual sex with a woman.

There's a huge distinction and if she wants to skip oral contraceptives (both monthly and emergency) and abortative pills (which when taken prior to 12 weeks merely cause an unusually heavy period) then the man cannot be blamed at that point.

It'd be different if the man agreed to having a child and then fucked off, or if the child was already born and then he fucked off.

You're making it out as if I'm being biased against women, I just don't believe they should have the power to bind a man against his will, that's not equality.

You want true equality for women or you one of those "lip service" kinds?

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Harrekin said:

You don't know me at all, so reserve your judgement lest you be left looking like a fool.

I'm saying a woman shouldn't let herself get to that point unless the man agrees or she decides to cut all legal responsibility from him.

Even that is pro-choice.

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bird mcbride said:

I know I wouldn't want to be the victom of a penis and virgina arguement
My mother told me that the only way a woman can be raped is by threats/weapon/physical force/drugs.
The victom in the case I refered to put herself into a position to get laid, but not at knife point. she said even if the guy got a bit rough, but not a knife...
The assailants sister described her brothers knife to the police which match the description given by the complaintant. The knife had been disposed of by the assailant's mother and father.
The victom had her baby...
Usually when a person puts theirself at risk they are doing so willingly.

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Harrekin said:

So to you, sex is an automatic commitment on the mans part to "making a baby"?

First off, that by itself is fucked, what are you? A 13 year old Christian boy?

Secondly, if a woman is effected more by pregnancy, why is it the mans responsibility to wrap up? Shouldnt the larger responsibility be on the one who takes the brunt of the repercussions?

So if a woman gets pregnant, chooses not to take the morning after pill or get an early term abortion the man should automatically be committed for 18+ years on her whim?

And it is a whim, because there are MANY "after the fact" contraceptives available.

Given this, and given the mans apparent commitment to responsibility, why does he not get a say in what happens to the embryo? Which is distinctly NOT a person at that point.

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Red1966 said:

You complain about the unwanted repercussions and then say "Shouldnt the larger responsibility be on the one who takes the brunt of the repercussions?"...........lol.......

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Pinworm said:

learn2multiquote

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Red1966 said:

Why? To please you?

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