Hey New Growers, Let's try this again?

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TryN

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I agree. This is sooo much information and people forget, it is mostly good information, just will not work for me ... People are so touchy ... Lol ... do you let your plants go that long now at all?
 
hogbud

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TryN said:
I agree. This is sooo much information and people forget, it is mostly good information, just will not work for me ... People are so touchy ... Lol ... do you let your plants go that long now at all?
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I let my plants go longer than most and after the PE thing I will def be experimentin, it's kinda what I do
 
ayr0n

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Well the early harvest seems to be a big deal now a days, Some seem to think it is about greed/money, I can see that some think it is all about the new dabbing phase? I really don't care as I only grow for me therefore I harvest for me.

I have grown G13 Pineapple Express several times and it always seemed to finish in week 9, I would always harvest in week 10. Recently I left the bottom of a harvested plant go to senescence (lil over 12 weeks) and it was SO MUCH better, in all dept's better smell, taste, high, etc. and was not at all couchlock but rather heady/trippy which surprised me, but opened a door to open minded thoughts that most of what is said in forums is generalizations that don't always apply !!! That older PE had over 50% amber trics and yet no couchlock,,,,, go figure.

My point is that each of us has to learn these things about each and every strain we grow if we want to get the best herb possible, the generalizations do not always apply !!!

I will splain the brown bush later tonight, am on my lunch hour now
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Honestly I think anticipation / excitement to reap their rewards is the biggest drive for early harvests. After all, what matters most is that we get something in the end - whether it be a learning experience or a great yield - and patience isn't necessarily a strong point in these days of instant gratification not just being something we want, but almost something we expect in all aspects of life. I'm not experienced enough to add much to the discussion, but IMO when to harvest will probably come down to preference rather than a one size fits all solution. When there are so many varying factors, from the environment, genetics, what the grower is or isn't doing, etc, etc, something like the color of your trichs is just not enough to be a universal solution for every MJ plant out there. It'll take some time but I do plan to read everything and come back to join the convo.
 
hogbud

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Well it was an experiment that led me to what I call brown bush, prolly why there was nothing in Google LOL, I only know of one other grower that has tried it and she loved it !!!

I always boil my roots prior to a harvest, then I leave em under the lights for 3 more days, one time I harvested the tops and set the bottom, still in the pot on the floor, bout 10 feet from the lights and decided I'd deal with it later. I began to notice that it was turning a golden brown and thought to myself hey what a wonderful way to get rid of chlorophyll now to be fair it took about 2 months for this to occur and I was never worried about it, wasn't like I needed the smoke LOL.

When I went to harvest it after all the green was gone from these vine ripened nugs, 1st thing I noticed was the buds were still sticky, 2nd thing I noticed was the trics were almost all amber, 3rd thing I noticed this was some of the best tasting shit I had ever grown and the high was just fucking awesome !!!

I do it all the time now because I can, I have the time and the time is worth it. But it was this experience that made me question the whole amber thing and now that I have bred 3 strains that make early amber, I am lookin into it and tryin to better understand things.

I decided to take a long lunch LOL
 
hogbud

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ayr0n said:
Honestly I think anticipation / excitement to reap their rewards is the biggest drive for early harvests. After all, what matters most is that we get something in the end - whether it be a learning experience or a great yield - and patience isn't necessarily a strong point in these days of instant gratification not just being something we want, but almost something we expect in all aspects of life. I'm not experienced enough to add much to the discussion, but IMO when to harvest will probably come down to preference rather than a one size fits all solution. When there are so many varying factors, from the environment, genetics, what the grower is or isn't doing, etc, etc, something like the color of your trichs is just not enough to be a universal solution for every MJ plant out there. It'll take some time but I do plan to read everything and come back to join the convo.
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from new growers, you are prolly right, but I'm in Colorado and 99% of the buds being sold in dispensaries has been harvested early, I know it's about the $$$ for them cause of what they lay out for the license, bitch is most of their customers have no clue
 
mr sunshine

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Ive bin brown bushing for 4 years ...all your doing is drying the plant whole in a pot!!!!! All amber seems to degraded to me!!lots of people in cali do it i know a guy that brown bushes his shit in a huge oak cabinet...
 
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ayr0n

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hogbud said:
from new growers, you are prolly right, but I'm in Colorado and 99% of the buds being sold in dispensaries has been harvested early, I know it's about the $$$ for them cause of what they lay out for the license, bitch is most of their customers have no clue
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Ahh yeah that makes a lot more sense when you put it that way...commercialize it, quality gets shit on, quantity skyrockets, retail wins, customer loses, customer thinks they're winning. :(
 
hogbud

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mr sunshine said:
Ive bin brown bushing for 4 years ...all your doing is drying the plant whole in a pot!!!!! All amber seems to degraded yo me!!lots of people in cali do it i know a guy that brown bushes his shit in a huge oak cabinet...
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are the boiling the roots or girdling the stem?
 
mr sunshine

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Im just not watering and letting the plant die naturally ....to be honest tho i leave it under the light for a week or so then i move it to a cool dark place..
 
hogbud

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mr sunshine said:
Im just not watering and letting the plant die naturally ....to be honest tho i leave it under the light for a week or so then i move it to a cool dark place..
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similar, but very different actually, you should give the boil a try
 
mmjmon

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hogbud said:
I pour a gallon thru a 2 gallon pot, screams stop pretty fast
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Heh Heh.... Duh...I was thinking I had to pull my plant out of the soil and hold it up in a pot of boiling water on the stove, probably at an angle because my plants are taller than my fan/hood clearance above my stove. Although I probably would have made a little fire outside or something...

I see now where you said
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I simply boil water in a big pot on the stove and water with it
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and I misread your response.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
hogbud

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a look at my setup for those interested

and trust me on this pot flowered under T5's is more potent :hump:S_SAM_0822.JPG
 
hogbud

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Plants are not as big cause this is a seed run, see the boys :eyesmoke:

this is the spec on the UVB bulbs

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